Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Iraq's PM is not shy of wanting US forces out ASAP. I sure would like to see the evidence of him "backing away" from his comments presented too us.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/...tml?section=cnn_latest
Meh
lol. Aside from the overt support in the German article, how is what they said in the CNN article different from the Der Spiegal article? Looks the same to me, except he probably didn't want to embarrass Bush. However, we all know he's been saying something like this for years now.
The Spiegal article had "Assuming that positive developments continue" and then suddenly didn't..or something like that. But either way, none of this is surprising since
the policy has been to withdraw troops based on progress. It just seems the PM is hoping that it'll be around that time based on current progress.
It has? Because every time Republicans field the question, their response seems to indicate that they'd like to keep troops there as long as humanly possible. And anyone who suggests getting out as soon as it's practical (which would seem to line up with "assuming positive development continues") is branded a defeatist and a traitor. Don't try to co-opt a (somewhat) lefty position just because yours has lost its appeal.
:roll: You'd have to be a partisan hack to believe what you posted.... oh wait...
The position has ALWAYS been that we'll stand down as they stand up. Sheesh. For you and others to claim otherwise is nothing but dishonest hackery.
Call me all the names you want, the fact is that since the war started it has been impossible for anyone to suggest we need to expedite our exit from Iraq without people like you assuming they mean leave without doing all we can do to stabilize the country. Sure, you guys always use that "stand down as they stand up" line, but trying to get you on board with making them "stand up" faster is an exercise in futility. Sticking around until the job is done is an admirable decision, but only if it goes along with a desire to actually do the job...and that's where Republicans seem to come up a little short.
But while we're on the topic of partisanship, I have an equally large problem with Democrats who want to leave before doing all we can to fix the mess we made. If we're going to invade a country and demolish their government and infrastructure, I think it's our responsibility to put things back together as much as we can before getting out of Dodge because the war isn't playing so well on the news anymore.
Really, the only thing that makes sense is sticking around until the job is finished...but making that day as soon as humanly possible. And you can't tell me with a straight face that Republicans have had that position from day 1. Some of them may have it NOW, but only because of political expediency.