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Red Dawn

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Iraqi govt. papers: Saddam bribed French officials
And you are surprised? I wonder which countries have been bribing American Officials? I bet the Saudi's and the Israeli's have been doing it for decades.
 

tcsenter

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And you are surprised? I wonder which countries have been bribing American Officials? I bet the Saudi's and the Israeli's have been doing it for decades.
Is this what you teach your children? "Its OK to be corrupt because some other people are corrupt?"

Yikes.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
And you are surprised? I wonder which countries have been bribing American Officials? I bet the Saudi's and the Israeli's have been doing it for decades.
Is this what you teach your children? "Its OK to be corrupt because some other people are corrupt?"

Yikes.
Wow your Meds must be pretty strong because I can't see anywhere in my post where I said it was ok.
 

alchemize

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Samir Vincent : received 10.5 million barrels. In 2000, Vincent, an Iraqi-born American citizen who has lived in the U.S. since 1958, organized a delegation of Iraqi religious leaders to visit the U.S. and meet with former president Jimmy Carter..

From the Memri article.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
the USA is also on that list.
10,2 million barrels
The USA isn't "on that list". An Iraqi-born US citizen who has no connection with the US government is on that list.
LOL - even a former member of Blairs party is on that list maybe Labor was also bribed
"Former" member, who in turn opposed the invasion and defended the Hussein regime. And what would Iraq have received in exchange for bribing the Labor party; opposition to the Hussein regime and support of the US?

Do you have the foggiest idea what a bribe is? Please leave logic and reason to the professionals, you might hurt yourself.

We knew Iraq was buying influence in the United Nations Security Council among certain countries who shall not be named, COUGH! *FranceRussia* COUGH!*, oh my! Pardon me, little tickle in my throat there, all better now.

We also knew these certain countries had an enormous financial stake in not only the Hussein regime, but in the continued existance of the Oil-for-Food program, which proved to be very lucrative for these certain countries, being the largest recipients of Iraqi contracts under this program. We also knew these certain countries had every [financial] reason to oppose regime change and no reason to support it.

But this latest revelation is par for the course! Those who spoke of the "mass plundering of Iraqi oil wealth for greed and profit" seem to have been correct all along, they just had their "plunderers" mixed-up.


the USA tried to buy support in the Security council last year but hey you probably forgot about that
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: tcsenter
the USA is also on that list.
10,2 million barrels
The USA isn't "on that list". An Iraqi-born US citizen who has no connection with the US government is on that list.
LOL - even a former member of Blairs party is on that list maybe Labor was also bribed
"Former" member, who in turn opposed the invasion and defended the Hussein regime. And what would Iraq have received in exchange for bribing the Labor party; opposition to the Hussein regime and support of the US?

Do you have the foggiest idea what a bribe is? Please leave logic and reason to the professionals, you might hurt yourself.

We knew Iraq was buying influence in the United Nations Security Council among certain countries who shall not be named, COUGH! *FranceRussia* COUGH!*, oh my! Pardon me, little tickle in my throat there, all better now.

We also knew these certain countries had an enormous financial stake in not only the Hussein regime, but in the continued existance of the Oil-for-Food program, which proved to be very lucrative for these certain countries, being the largest recipients of Iraqi contracts under this program. We also knew these certain countries had every [financial] reason to oppose regime change and no reason to support it.

But this latest revelation is par for the course! Those who spoke of the "mass plundering of Iraqi oil wealth for greed and profit" seem to have been correct all along, they just had their "plunderers" mixed-up.


the USA tried to buy support in the Security council last year but hey you probably forgot about that

But the US isn't a dangerous dictatorship trying to create a WMD program to control internal struggles and be a regional power. The US also wasn't guilty of murdering 500k citizens over the past decade or two, nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people and regional neighbor. So yes the US DID in fact try to buy support through Aid and Diplomatic agreements, but it CERTAINLY wasn't dealing with the devil like dealing with Saddam was. There are varying degrees of scumbags, and I'd think taking a bribe from Saddam is worse than giving Poland a few pierogies and some ale.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: tcsenter
the USA is also on that list.
10,2 million barrels
The USA isn't "on that list". An Iraqi-born US citizen who has no connection with the US government is on that list.
LOL - even a former member of Blairs party is on that list maybe Labor was also bribed
"Former" member, who in turn opposed the invasion and defended the Hussein regime. And what would Iraq have received in exchange for bribing the Labor party; opposition to the Hussein regime and support of the US?

Do you have the foggiest idea what a bribe is? Please leave logic and reason to the professionals, you might hurt yourself.

We knew Iraq was buying influence in the United Nations Security Council among certain countries who shall not be named, COUGH! *FranceRussia* COUGH!*, oh my! Pardon me, little tickle in my throat there, all better now.

We also knew these certain countries had an enormous financial stake in not only the Hussein regime, but in the continued existance of the Oil-for-Food program, which proved to be very lucrative for these certain countries, being the largest recipients of Iraqi contracts under this program. We also knew these certain countries had every [financial] reason to oppose regime change and no reason to support it.

But this latest revelation is par for the course! Those who spoke of the "mass plundering of Iraqi oil wealth for greed and profit" seem to have been correct all along, they just had their "plunderers" mixed-up.


the USA tried to buy support in the Security council last year but hey you probably forgot about that

But the US isn't a dangerous dictatorship trying to create a WMD program to control internal struggles and be a regional power. The US also wasn't guilty of murdering 500k citizens over the past decade or two, nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people and regional neighbor. So yes the US DID in fact try to buy support through Aid and Diplomatic agreements, but it CERTAINLY wasn't dealing with the devil like dealing with Saddam was. There are varying degrees of scumbags, and I'd think taking a bribe from Saddam is worse than giving Poland a few pierogies and some ale.

the same discussions all the time

USA = good
rest of the world = bad

 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: tcsenter
the USA is also on that list.
10,2 million barrels
The USA isn't "on that list". An Iraqi-born US citizen who has no connection with the US government is on that list.
LOL - even a former member of Blairs party is on that list maybe Labor was also bribed
"Former" member, who in turn opposed the invasion and defended the Hussein regime. And what would Iraq have received in exchange for bribing the Labor party; opposition to the Hussein regime and support of the US?

Do you have the foggiest idea what a bribe is? Please leave logic and reason to the professionals, you might hurt yourself.

We knew Iraq was buying influence in the United Nations Security Council among certain countries who shall not be named, COUGH! *FranceRussia* COUGH!*, oh my! Pardon me, little tickle in my throat there, all better now.

We also knew these certain countries had an enormous financial stake in not only the Hussein regime, but in the continued existance of the Oil-for-Food program, which proved to be very lucrative for these certain countries, being the largest recipients of Iraqi contracts under this program. We also knew these certain countries had every [financial] reason to oppose regime change and no reason to support it.

But this latest revelation is par for the course! Those who spoke of the "mass plundering of Iraqi oil wealth for greed and profit" seem to have been correct all along, they just had their "plunderers" mixed-up.


the USA tried to buy support in the Security council last year but hey you probably forgot about that

But the US isn't a dangerous dictatorship trying to create a WMD program to control internal struggles and be a regional power. The US also wasn't guilty of murdering 500k citizens over the past decade or two, nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people and regional neighbor. So yes the US DID in fact try to buy support through Aid and Diplomatic agreements, but it CERTAINLY wasn't dealing with the devil like dealing with Saddam was. There are varying degrees of scumbags, and I'd think taking a bribe from Saddam is worse than giving Poland a few pierogies and some ale.

the same discussions all the time

USA = good
rest of the world = bad

Heh, while you may see others doing that, I know I won't be. That doesn't mean I won't defend my country when unfairly criticized, or criticize countries that seem to be getting a fair pass.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: tcsenter
the USA is also on that list.
10,2 million barrels
The USA isn't "on that list". An Iraqi-born US citizen who has no connection with the US government is on that list.
LOL - even a former member of Blairs party is on that list maybe Labor was also bribed
"Former" member, who in turn opposed the invasion and defended the Hussein regime. And what would Iraq have received in exchange for bribing the Labor party; opposition to the Hussein regime and support of the US?

Do you have the foggiest idea what a bribe is? Please leave logic and reason to the professionals, you might hurt yourself.

We knew Iraq was buying influence in the United Nations Security Council among certain countries who shall not be named, COUGH! *FranceRussia* COUGH!*, oh my! Pardon me, little tickle in my throat there, all better now.

We also knew these certain countries had an enormous financial stake in not only the Hussein regime, but in the continued existance of the Oil-for-Food program, which proved to be very lucrative for these certain countries, being the largest recipients of Iraqi contracts under this program. We also knew these certain countries had every [financial] reason to oppose regime change and no reason to support it.

But this latest revelation is par for the course! Those who spoke of the "mass plundering of Iraqi oil wealth for greed and profit" seem to have been correct all along, they just had their "plunderers" mixed-up.


the USA tried to buy support in the Security council last year but hey you probably forgot about that

But the US isn't a dangerous dictatorship trying to create a WMD program to control internal struggles and be a regional power. The US also wasn't guilty of murdering 500k citizens over the past decade or two, nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people and regional neighbor. So yes the US DID in fact try to buy support through Aid and Diplomatic agreements, but it CERTAINLY wasn't dealing with the devil like dealing with Saddam was. There are varying degrees of scumbags, and I'd think taking a bribe from Saddam is worse than giving Poland a few pierogies and some ale.

the same discussions all the time

USA = good
rest of the world = bad

Heh, while you may see others doing that, I know I won't be. That doesn't mean I won't defend my country when unfairly criticized, or criticize countries that seem to be getting a fair pass.

fair enough

 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: tcsenter
the USA is also on that list.
10,2 million barrels
The USA isn't "on that list". An Iraqi-born US citizen who has no connection with the US government is on that list.
LOL - even a former member of Blairs party is on that list maybe Labor was also bribed
"Former" member, who in turn opposed the invasion and defended the Hussein regime. And what would Iraq have received in exchange for bribing the Labor party; opposition to the Hussein regime and support of the US?

Do you have the foggiest idea what a bribe is? Please leave logic and reason to the professionals, you might hurt yourself.

We knew Iraq was buying influence in the United Nations Security Council among certain countries who shall not be named, COUGH! *FranceRussia* COUGH!*, oh my! Pardon me, little tickle in my throat there, all better now.

We also knew these certain countries had an enormous financial stake in not only the Hussein regime, but in the continued existance of the Oil-for-Food program, which proved to be very lucrative for these certain countries, being the largest recipients of Iraqi contracts under this program. We also knew these certain countries had every [financial] reason to oppose regime change and no reason to support it.

But this latest revelation is par for the course! Those who spoke of the "mass plundering of Iraqi oil wealth for greed and profit" seem to have been correct all along, they just had their "plunderers" mixed-up.


the USA tried to buy support in the Security council last year but hey you probably forgot about that

But the US isn't a dangerous dictatorship trying to create a WMD program to control internal struggles and be a regional power. The US also wasn't guilty of murdering 500k citizens over the past decade or two, nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people and regional neighbor. So yes the US DID in fact try to buy support through Aid and Diplomatic agreements, but it CERTAINLY wasn't dealing with the devil like dealing with Saddam was. There are varying degrees of scumbags, and I'd think taking a bribe from Saddam is worse than giving Poland a few pierogies and some ale.

the same discussions all the time

USA = good
rest of the world = bad

Heh, while you may see others doing that, I know I won't be. That doesn't mean I won't defend my country when unfairly criticized, or criticize countries that seem to be getting a fair pass.

fair enough

And I will agree with you that some of the stuff said about Europe lately is moronic and grasping for straws, but this new information about the Oil Bribes should be taken seriously. Some people are posting BS(i.e. Animal sex in Sweden), when there are *actual* issues to discuss.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: tcsenter
the USA is also on that list.
10,2 million barrels
The USA isn't "on that list". An Iraqi-born US citizen who has no connection with the US government is on that list.
LOL - even a former member of Blairs party is on that list maybe Labor was also bribed
"Former" member, who in turn opposed the invasion and defended the Hussein regime. And what would Iraq have received in exchange for bribing the Labor party; opposition to the Hussein regime and support of the US?

Do you have the foggiest idea what a bribe is? Please leave logic and reason to the professionals, you might hurt yourself.

We knew Iraq was buying influence in the United Nations Security Council among certain countries who shall not be named, COUGH! *FranceRussia* COUGH!*, oh my! Pardon me, little tickle in my throat there, all better now.

We also knew these certain countries had an enormous financial stake in not only the Hussein regime, but in the continued existance of the Oil-for-Food program, which proved to be very lucrative for these certain countries, being the largest recipients of Iraqi contracts under this program. We also knew these certain countries had every [financial] reason to oppose regime change and no reason to support it.

But this latest revelation is par for the course! Those who spoke of the "mass plundering of Iraqi oil wealth for greed and profit" seem to have been correct all along, they just had their "plunderers" mixed-up.


the USA tried to buy support in the Security council last year but hey you probably forgot about that

But the US isn't a dangerous dictatorship trying to create a WMD program to control internal struggles and be a regional power. The US also wasn't guilty of murdering 500k citizens over the past decade or two, nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people and regional neighbor. So yes the US DID in fact try to buy support through Aid and Diplomatic agreements, but it CERTAINLY wasn't dealing with the devil like dealing with Saddam was. There are varying degrees of scumbags, and I'd think taking a bribe from Saddam is worse than giving Poland a few pierogies and some ale.

the same discussions all the time

USA = good
rest of the world = bad

Heh, while you may see others doing that, I know I won't be. That doesn't mean I won't defend my country when unfairly criticized, or criticize countries that seem to be getting a fair pass.

fair enough

And I will agree with you that some of the stuff said about Europe lately is moronic and grasping for straws, but this new information about the Oil Bribes should be taken seriously. Some people are posting BS(i.e. Animal sex in Sweden), when there are *actual* issues to discuss.

a post from me in this thread

---- like Charrisson said - worh investigating------

all the people and countries should be severely punished if they indeed violated UN resolutions


my position in this is crystal clear

I just think that there are a lot of hypocrits in the P&N forum

that's all




 

Alistar7

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"nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people"

Yes, they have, numerous times, on unwitting American citizens and military personel.
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
"nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people"

Yes, they have, numerous times, on unwitting American citizens and military personel.
Evidence please.

 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Shanti
Originally posted by: Alistar7
"nor did the US use chemical weapons on its own people"

Yes, they have, numerous times, on unwitting American citizens and military personel.
Evidence please.

Military personel is well known, not sure about civilians though. It was part of experiments to see effectiveness/affects.
 

etech

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Somehow I knew that even though this thread started out based on Saddam bribing foreign governments and individuals that somehow, someway the past transgressions of the US would be brought up.

By the same old crowd also.

Nice tactic they have isn't it. No matter what the thread, no matter what the subject, bash the US. It's getting old.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: etech
Somehow I knew that even though this thread started out based on Saddam bribing foreign governments and individuals that somehow, someway the past transgressions of the US would be brought up.

By the same old crowd also.

Nice tactic they have isn't it. No matter what the thread, no matter what the subject, bash the US. It's getting old.

and the same crowd always start threads to bash the French and conveniently only post the part of a source about the French (like in this thread)

who is pathetic???

 

etech

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: etech
Somehow I knew that even though this thread started out based on Saddam bribing foreign governments and individuals that somehow, someway the past transgressions of the US would be brought up.

By the same old crowd also.

Nice tactic they have isn't it. No matter what the thread, no matter what the subject, bash the US. It's getting old.

and the same crowd always start threads to bash the French and conveniently only post the part of a source about the French (like in this thread)

who is pathetic???

You missed the point completely. Feel free to start a thread bashing the US, god knows there are plenty of those in this forum.

My point was that this thread was not about the US but it didn't take long for the same old crowd to try and twist it into a US bashing thread.