Iraqi Democracy...an oxymoron or a mirror of the Bush admin?

[conjur]

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=hotnews&alt=&trh=20050329&hn=17965

Iraqi Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi walked out of parliamentary session, which began under the shadow of the crisis over the nomination of the speaker of parliament.

Following the deputies harshly criticism of Shiite and Kurdish leaders for failing to form the government despite that fact that two months have passed, it was reported that Allawi got up and left the building.

On the other hand, the members of the media following the events of the session were asked to leave and were told that the rest of the session would be held behind the closed doors.

So much for openness. Bring on the secrecy. Bush has taught his underlings well.

And poor Allawi. So sad that he felt he had to leave. Probably went crying to the Bush admin.

 

[phillyTIM]

Yes - the Iraqi puppets put into Office spared no time to adopt a regime of secrecy, exactly akin to Bush's regime.

Everyone knows it is Bush's puppet Government to grip control of the Middle East.

 

[Gaard]

It's a good thing the Iraqis risked their lives to vote in the RESOUNDING SUCCESSFUL elections. Who cares if nothing comes from it, it was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS.

 

[GreatBarracuda]

Originally posted by: Gaard
It's a good thing the Iraqis risked their lives to vote in the RESOUNDING SUCCESSFUL elections. Who cares if nothing comes from it, it was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS.

Propaganda is painful to swallow at times, isn't it?

 

[CaptnKirk]

And to celebrate their success they're having a Crow-Feast.

Another Catostrophic Success.

 

[dawheat]

Umm a bit of an overreaction don't you think? Negotiators reported that the PM had to leave for another appointment, albiet looking angry for the inability to form a consensus

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...e=5&u=/ap/20050330/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

This strikes me as the normal teething pains of a new democracy. Hell, look at some asian countries where sessions turn into brawls, etc. I think its a healthy part of growing- what would concern me is if they stopped talking and started giving up on the democratic process.

Its actually a little amusing they had the media leave- its most probable that it was a screaming fest inside.

 

[1EZduzit]

"Allawi later left the session, looking angry, followed by al-Yawer. Alliance negotiators said Allawi departed because he had another commitment. "

Another commitment more important then getting a speaker appointed?? I doubt it. It sounds more like public relation drivel for "he got pissed off and left"

 

[Infohawk]

I wonder what the neocons think about all this?

 

[smc13]

Here is a better article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/03/29/iraq.main/index.html

It mentions that 80 to 90 percent of the positions for the new government have been already negotiated. The big problem they are having is that they haven't been able to pick a sunni speaker (basically their Speaker of the House though it seems they only have one Legislative branch currently). They are picking a Sunni even though the Shiites got more votes since the President will be a shiite. It also mentions that the Sunnis have till Tuesday to select a Speaker or the full Assembly will pick one.

This doesn't seem that awful.

 

[BBond]

Juan Cole has more on the acrimony.

Parliament Fiasco

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: BBond
Juan Cole has more on the acrimony.

Parliament Fiasco

Ahmad Chalabi seems to be making another push to be prime minister himself, supported by the Kurds and by dissidents in the Shiite United Iraqi Alliance

So, the Propagandist is warming to him again? After the Propagandist's war was shown to be based on lies and deception (mostly coming from Chalabi), he was disowned and labeled a spy for the Iranians. Now Chalabi is oh-so-close to a position of power in Iraq? The smell of $$$.

Oh, and about Allawi, I harken back to my thread on Seymour Hersh
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1539955&enterthread=y

Speaking of the new Iraqi government, Hersh brought up an interesting point: it?s been five weeks since the Iraqi elections and there has yet to be any sort of decision for the formation of an independent (non-American puppet) government. Hersh questioned why that was. His answer came in form of the current Prime Minister, American puppet Iyad Allawi. The convenient 48% ?majority? obtained by the Shi?a in the recent Iraqi election is evidence of the American push to install Allawi in a position of power in the new government. Bush?s foreign policy all but demands a pro-American figurehead leading Iraq in order to obtain a formal request to keep American troops in Iraq. This means the new Iraqi government will, indeed, not be a democratic government but, rather, another in a string of American interventionist results.

 

[magomago]

Well our constiutional convention was held behind closed doors, so i don't see why theirs can't.