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Iraq, Sunday 9/16

tomywishbone

Golden Member
I suppose this is what our leader called a "return on success." I'm pretty sure, this is the type of freedom, our leader was talking about last week as well.

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Al-Qaida fighters raid Iraq villages By SINAN SALAHEDDIN, Associated Press Writer, 1 hour, 21 minutes ago.

BAGHDAD - Dozens of fighters linked to al-Qaida in Iraq streamed into Shiite villages north of Baghdad on Sunday, torching homes and killing at least 15 people before Iraqi police and defiant residents drove them away, police and army officials said.

In all, at least 41 people were killed or found dead nationwide ? including nine shot by security contractors in Baghdad, police said, and five who died when a booby-trapped bicycle exploded near a cafe serving tea and food during Ramadan fasting hours.

The bloodshed came the day after al-Qaida in Iraq announced a new offensive in the Islamic holy month and was a blow to government hopes that a peaceful Ramadan would demonstrate the success of the seven-month operation in the capital.

In the raids on the villages of Jichan and Ghizlayat, the fighters arrived from several different directions and residents fought back until Iraqi security forces arrived and chased the attackers, who fled to nearby farms.

The clashes about 60 miles north of Baghdad lasted about two hours, the officials and witnesses said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they feared reprisals.

In Baghdad, Iraqi police said security contractors opened fire in a predominantly Sunni neighborhood of western Baghdad on Sunday, killing at least nine civilians. The U.S. Embassy said contractors working for the State Department were involved in an incident in Baghdad but provided no further details, saying an investigation was still under way.

"We saw a convoy of SUVs passing in the street nearby. One minute later, we heard the sound of bomb explosion followed by gunfire that lasted for 20 minutes between gunmen and the convoy people who were foreigners and dressed in civilian clothes. Everybody in the street started to flee immediately," said Hussein Abdul-Abbas, who owns a cell phone store nearby.

The police officer who reported the shootings in Mansour spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.

American soldiers arrived afterward and were not involved, military spokesman Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl said.

Many contractors have been accused of indiscriminately firing at American and Iraqi troops, and of shooting to death an unknown number of Iraqi citizens who got too close to their heavily armed convoys, but not one has faced charges or prosecution.

The wartime numbers of private guards are unprecedented ? as are their duties, many of which have traditionally been done by soldiers. They protect U.S. military operations and have guarded high-ranking officials including Gen. David Petraeus, the U.S. commander in Baghdad. They also protect journalists, visiting foreign officials and thousands of construction projects.

The government, meanwhile, faced a deepening political crisis with Saturday's announcement that anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's followers were withdrawing from the Shiite alliance in parliament. Al-Sadr's followers hold 30 of the 275 parliament seats.

The announcement, made to reporters in Najaf, means the Shiite-led government can count on the support of only 108 parliament members ? 30 short of a majority. However, it could probably win the backing of the 30 independent Shiite parliamentarians, as well as some minor parties.

Al-Sadr's decision will sharpen the power struggle among armed Shiite groups in the south, which includes major Shiite religious shrines and much of the country's vast oil resources.

But Shiites have shown signs of increasing frustration with militia violence, much of it blamed on breakaway Mahdi Army factions and criminal gangs and extortion rings.

American commanders in southern Iraq have said Shiite sheiks are showing interest in joining forces with the U.S. military against extremists, in much the same way that Sunni clansmen in the western part of the country have worked with American forces against al-Qaida in Iraq.

One of those clansmen, Sheik Abdul-Sattar Abu Risha, was assassinated Thursday outside his compound in the Anbar capital of Ramadi, just days after he met with President Bush.

The U.S. military said an al-Qaida linked militant believed responsible for his death ? Fallah Khalifa Hiyas Fayyas al-Jumayli, an Iraqi also known as Abu Khamis ? was seized Saturday.

"We do not assess that he was operating alone, there is an investigation and continuing operations that are focused on ensuring that all people who were involved in this attack or in this murder will be detained," said Rear. Adm. Mark Fox, a U.S. military spokesman.

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Given that last months death toll was 1809, that still is an average of 60 a day. So what is cited here thus far is somewhat of a slow day. Buts its also a sign the Iraqi insurgencies are evolving as the the Iraqi quagmire moves toward the mid point of year five.

But there are some good and bad news recent events to point out.

1. Even though the US mini surge plan is being credited with Anbar, we have strong indications that Anbar successes have little to do with the surge and more to do with a political deal struck with local Sunni tribal leaders made a year before the surge started. The jist of it was Al-Quida fomented violence was falling disproportionately on the Sunnis and the Sunnis got tired of it. Now Al-Quida is getting the message and are attacking the Shia.`

2. Al-Sadr as the largest Shia militia leader continues to try to torpedo the civilian government while making conflicting statements about standing down or having a cease fire.

3. The one encouraging thing is that the local Shia chiefs who used to have the power Al_Sadr is now usurping express some desire to ally with the US to ramp down the free for all violence. And it could be huge if a political deal could ramp down the violence like in Anbar. But see #2 because Al-Sadr is not likely to sit by and allow it to happen.

4. American contractors and other groups have their own motivations to continue the present anarchic conditions. And its very difficult to infer those motivations or the deals or petty revenge they may be engaged in.

5. The Iraqi insurgencies are now deeply entrenched and have already largely segregated Iraq into a set of local fiefdoms.

6. The surge is really a slogan for stay the course and the USA will not make any progress without diplomatic initiatives. The Sunnis may be caught between the devil and the deep blue sea and hence have to seek US protection, but the Kurds and the Shia have other ambitions that the USA must inevitably oppose. For now everyone bides their time as the can gets kicked further down the road. Sooner or later the Kurds or Shia will get off the fence and then all hell is likely to break out.
 
including nine shot by security contractors in Baghdad

Are those enemy fighters they killed, or civilians? There weren?t any details given, just that ?security contractors? apparently killed nine.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Given that last months death toll was 1809, that still is an average of 60 a day. So what is cited here thus far is somewhat of a slow day. Buts its also a sign the Iraqi insurgencies are evolving as the the Iraqi quagmire moves toward the mid point of year five.

But there are some good and bad news recent events to point out.

1. Even though the US mini surge plan is being credited with Anbar, we have strong indications that Anbar successes have little to do with the surge and more to do with a political deal struck with local Sunni tribal leaders made a year before the surge started. The jist of it was Al-Quida fomented violence was falling disproportionately on the Sunnis and the Sunnis got tired of it. Now Al-Quida is getting the message and are attacking the Shia.`

2. Al-Sadr as the largest Shia militia leader continues to try to torpedo the civilian government while making conflicting statements about standing down or having a cease fire.

3. The one encouraging thing is that the local Shia chiefs who used to have the power Al_Sadr is now usurping express some desire to ally with the US to ramp down the free for all violence. And it could be huge if a political deal could ramp down the violence like in Anbar. But see #2 because Al-Sadr is not likely to sit by and allow it to happen.

4. American contractors and other groups have their own motivations to continue the present anarchic conditions. And its very difficult to infer those motivations or the deals or petty revenge they may be engaged in.

5. The Iraqi insurgencies are now deeply entrenched and have already largely segregated Iraq into a set of local fiefdoms.

6. The surge is really a slogan for stay the course and the USA will not make any progress without diplomatic initiatives. The Sunnis may be caught between the devil and the deep blue sea and hence have to seek US protection, but the Kurds and the Shia have other ambitions that the USA must inevitably oppose. For now everyone bides their time as the can gets kicked further down the road. Sooner or later the Kurds or Shia will get off the fence and then all hell is likely to break out.

1-5 :thumbsup:

As far as the surge... the surge appeared in all reality a POLITICAL show. Miltary troops at the point of entries into Iraq and hitting specific target throughout Iraq may have been militarily more advantageous. It seemed more a show of commitment to the Iraqi government than a plan to accomplish any specific goals. Otherwise, the measures of success would be how many insurgent were captured during the last 24/48/96 hours, and how many safehouses were raided, instead of "how many civilians were killed". Having benchmarks like that only encourages AQ to make bold strikes to drive up the numbers and show CF failure and gain converts to their cause.


 
The bloodshed came the day after al-Qaida in Iraq announced a new offensive in the Islamic holy month and was a blow to government hopes that a peaceful Ramadan would demonstrate the success of the seven-month operation in the capital.

Don't you just love it! Muslims killing Muslims during their Holy month. Yet where is the outrage directed? Certainly not there.
 
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