Iran's president defends censorship of >10,000 internet sites that are incompatible with Islam.

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Iran's minister for information technology, Ahmad Motamedi, added that there was "no punishment defined" for people publishing material the government did not agree with, despite the detention of Sina Motallebi, an Iranian blogger and journalist, earlier in 2003.

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Amorphus

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Originally posted by: shady06
just because the US advocates freedom of speech doesnt mean the whole world has to

take that logic a little farther.

just because the U.S. treats humans as human beings doesn't mean the whole world has to.

BS

why don't you go to Iran and say some anti-islamic spew? then you'd be campaigning for your right to free spech. idiot.

 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: shady06
just because the US advocates freedom of speech doesnt mean the whole world has to

take that logic a little farther.

just because the U.S. treats humans as human beings doesn't mean the whole world has to.

BS

why don't you go to Iran and say some anti-islamic spew? then you'd be campaigning for your right to free spech. idiot.

Until the Guardian Council and the Supreme Leader are abolished or replaced with more liberal clerics this will continue to happen. A lot of what Khatami wants to do he can't because of the Council and Supreme leader.
 

chess9

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Red:

Bwuahahaha!!!!! :)

No kidding!

Not a dime's worth of difference as far as I'm concerned.

-Robert
 

CaptainGoodnight

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And people want the UN to control the internet. Well if countries that still allow slavery can sit on a human rights committee than Iran could sit on a committee overseeing the internet. great.
 

CaptnKirk

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Good thing that our Religous fanatics andright wing conservatives don't want to censor our freedoms.
Oh, wait, they do don't they.
Let's just let John Ashcroft decide what we should be allowed to read and see.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Good thing that our Religous fanatics andright wing conservatives don't want to censor our freedoms.
Oh, wait, they do don't they.
Let's just let John Ashcroft decide what we should be allowed to read and see.

ive never know the religious right to want to censor the internet. they are still Americans and they still believe in the right to free speach, even if it is porn and anti religious stuff.
 

CaptainGoodnight

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Good thing that our Religous fanatics andright wing conservatives don't want to censor our freedoms.
Oh, wait, they do don't they.
Let's just let John Ashcroft decide what we should be allowed to read and see.

ive never know the religious right to want to censor the internet. they are still Americans and they still believe in the right to free speach, even if it is porn and anti religious stuff.

No but it fits his "view" of them.
 

miguel

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Originally posted by: shady06
just because the US advocates freedom of speech doesnt mean the whole world has to

You should be made to write that over and over until you realize how idiotic a statement that was.

p.s. I hope you were kidding when you wrote that. If you were, use a smiley so we all get it, ok?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
CENSORED

Hehe, let me try this another way:

Every people and culture has laws and rules of behavior it deems proper for social interaction. Religion and religious rules are the traditional origin of such. This leads, with changing circumstances and outside influence to pressures to change these rules. You get liberal and conservative forces competing to change what is. Now you can take one side or the other in this struggle, but that, in my opinion would be insane. What we should want to do is to change those parts of our rules which are bad and keep the parts that are good. Liberal conservative, censorship, non-censorship are both ridiculous points of view. The essential third way is to understand what is bad and what is good. The Iranians have every right to change what is wrong or no longer applicable in their interpretation of Islamic law and every right and good sense to keep what is good. The point is to know the difference as to what is what.

What I did that got censored is to take a liberal position that was absurd enough to draw attention to this dilemma with the hope it would provoke this kind of analysis. Naturally it had some effect. There is here on Anandtech, I feel, a knee jerk reaction against religious censorship and I tried to show where it could lead. The point was that there are no correct sides in this debate because the crux of the matter lies not in the extremes, but in a higher order balance.

Unfortunately I think it's better to come upon this understanding by wrestling with extremes, rather than to be told like this. But anyway, there you have it, I think.

Now if I can just figure out what is good and what is evil. :D
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Good thing that our Religous fanatics andright wing conservatives don't want to censor our freedoms.
Oh, wait, they do don't they.
Let's just let John Ashcroft decide what we should be allowed to read and see.

ive never know the religious right to want to censor the internet. they are still Americans and they still believe in the right to free speach, even if it is porn and anti religious stuff.

LOL, yeah right!:)
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Good thing that our Religous fanatics andright wing conservatives don't want to censor our freedoms.
Oh, wait, they do don't they.
Let's just let John Ashcroft decide what we should be allowed to read and see.

ive never know the religious right to want to censor the internet. they are still Americans and they still believe in the right to free speach, even if it is porn and anti religious stuff.

LOL, yeah right!:)

ROFL, but I must ask the question, "Is this another Parody site?"

I looked through it some, but couldn't really tell.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: shady06
just because the US advocates freedom of speech doesnt mean the whole world has to

take that logic a little farther.

just because the U.S. treats humans as human beings doesn't mean the whole world has to.

BS

why don't you go to Iran and say some anti-islamic spew? then you'd be campaigning for your right to free spech. idiot.

Tieing People to wheeled trays is not treating 'humans as human beings'.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Good thing that our Religous fanatics andright wing conservatives don't want to censor our freedoms.
Oh, wait, they do don't they.
Let's just let John Ashcroft decide what we should be allowed to read and see.

ive never know the religious right to want to censor the internet. they are still Americans and they still believe in the right to free speach, even if it is porn and anti religious stuff.

LOL, yeah right!:)

ROFL, but I must ask the question, "Is this another Parody site?"

I looked through it some, but couldn't really tell.
Only if you consider Religious Fund A Mental Cases a Parody