Iranians invade and take control of Iraqi territory as Americans and Iraqis do nothin

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Dari

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I can't imagine this happening under Bush.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8420774.stm

Iran troops 'seize Iraq oil well'
Iranian troops have entered southern Iraqi territory and taken control of an oil well, reports say.

An Iraqi official played down the incident, saying the area was abandoned and right on a disputed border section.

Iranian soldiers crossed the border and raised an Iranian flag over the Fakkah oil field, a US military spokesman told the AFP news agency.

Iraq's Deputy Interior Minister confirmed the Iranians stayed in Iraq and were in control of the well.

Earlier it was reported that they had withdrawn back across the border.

Deputy Interior Minister Ahmed Ali al-Khafaji initially told the Reuters news agency the reports of the Iranian incursion were not true.

But Mr Khafaji later confirmed the incursion had taken place, and said 11 Iranians had dug-in at the oil well and had not left.

He said there had been no military response from Iraqi forces..

"We are awaiting orders from our leader," he said.

The incursion is one of several that have occurred in the last few days, he said.

The well is about 500m from an Iranian border fort and about 1km from an Iraqi fort, US Colonel Peter Newell told AFP.
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PJABBER

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No worries, they are going to settle it in Copenhagen over tea and wienerbrød.
 
StageLeft

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If hearsay was as valuable as oil that region of the world wouldn't need oil. Who knows what's really going on. One article, little info.
 
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Dari

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Skoorb said:
If hearsay was as valuable as oil that region of the world wouldn't need oil. Who knows what's really going on. One article, little info.
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An official and the Deputy Interior Minister confirming the incursion is 'hearsay'?
 
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RyanPaulShaffer

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But...but...but...I thought the world was a happy place now filled with sunshine and butterflies since the Immaculate Inauguration?!

Why would Iran make an aggressive move towards Iraq and the US? I thought they only loathed us because of Bush?!

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ayabe

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LOL the border was super porous for years, and there were plenty of other border incidents when Bush was running the show.

It's Friday, let's take a break from your hackery.
 
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Craig234

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spidey07 said:
It really seems like Iran is really flexing is muscle since Bummer has been in office.
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You are ignorant. The actual history of Iran doing all kinds of things is lost on you - you simply react to hearing the right-wing media hype anti-Obama stories as if the history were as you say.

I suppose next as soon as North Korea does anything, we'll hear how they are sure flxeing their muscles under Obama because Bush had them controlled.
 
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While the OPs knee jerks uncontrollably as he implies the need to go 'cowboy' over this, a little research would reveal that along the border(s) of Iraq there are multiple oil wells under 'joint' ownership between themselves and their neighbors.

It seems that the borders between the Iraq and its neighbors have not been formalized in many areas, including, in this case, Iran, but additionally Kuwait.

I will assume (since an oil deposit essentially knows no border) that 'joint wells' are established and the resulting revenue is shared between the neighbors.

A quick Google reveals of an estimated 10 joint wells between Iran and Iraq, that only three have been in production; additionally, another eleven oil fields which have been discovered by seismic surveying have yet to be drilled.

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Dari

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heyheybooboo said:
While the OPs knee jerks uncontrollably as he implies the need to go 'cowboy' over this, a little research would reveal that along the border(s) of Iraq there are multiple oil wells under 'joint' ownership between themselves and their neighbors.

It seems that the borders between the Iraq and its neighbors have not been formalized in many areas, including, in this case, Iran, but additionally Kuwait.

I will assume (since an oil deposit essentially knows no border) that 'joint wells' are established and the resulting revenue is shared between the neighbors.

A quick Google reveals of an estimated 10 joint wells between Iran and Iraq, that only three have been in production; additionally, another eleven oil fields which have been discovered by seismic surveying have yet to be drilled.

I now return you to The Thread of the Offended ...




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None of that matters when we are being challenged so openly. If you deal with this diplomatically or do nothing then it is a sign of extreme weakness. We have to bomb some of their military installations in order tolet them know that we are not to be fucked with.
 
DesiPower

DesiPower

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does it not sound very similar to whats been happening there for the past 8 years... some country goes in and takes over... land and oil well(s)...
 
bob4432

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this could be dealt w/ very easily - 1KM ~ = 1100YDS....not that far of a shot for certain trained people...only 11 people....but nothing will happen and iran will push in and in and in and obama will say thank you.
 
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heyheybooboo

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Oh, darn. Iraq minister denies Iranian oilfield incursion

Iraq's Deputy Interior Minister Ahmed Ali al-Khafaji said no incursion took place.

"This news in not true. This field is disputed and now it is neglected by both sides. There was no storming of the field, it's empty, it's abandoned, it is exactly on the border between Iraq and Iran," he told Reuters.
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Perhaps Iran and Iraq can work together to solve this issue?


And by the way, a few 'Quick Facts' ...

**only about 2,000 wells have been drilled in Iraq, compared to about 1 million wells in Texas alone. Iraq has an estimated 120 billion barrels of oil reserves with unexplored regions of Iraq expected to yield an additional 100 billion barrels.

At their current rate of production (2.5 million barrels/day) Iraq could pump for over 131 years before exhausting their proven reserves ...

Or, considering the expected "100 billion barrel yield" over current reserves, they could pump 4.6 million barrels/day for the next 131 years.



Gosh. The Oil Barons would never manipulate our supply, now, would they .... ?

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yllus

yllus

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What does it matter if it happens under President Obama or President Bush? It's not an American oil well - let the Iraqis fight for it if they want it back.
 
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CitizenKain

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Dari said:
None of that matters when we are being challenged so openly. If you deal with this diplomatically or do nothing then it is a sign of extreme weakness. We have to bomb some of their military installations in order tolet them know that we are not to be fucked with.
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How soon until you deploy?
 
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darom

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There is no need to invade Iraq. Iranians just need to put an oil derrick on their land and drill at an angle to reach the underground Iraqi oil reserve.
 
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Dari said:
None of that matters when we are being challenged so openly. If you deal with this diplomatically or do nothing then it is a sign of extreme weakness. We have to bomb some of their military installations in order tolet them know that we are not to be fucked with.
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I saw those two words together and thought of toilet, and that's where this thread belongs.

I remember a few years ago there was a Mexican army incursion into the US, and right wingers talked about invading Mexico. And the Mexicans were even so bold while cowboy Bush was in office!
 
werepossum

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I wonder if this oil well was part of the territory Iraq won from Iran in their last war. It is closer to an Iranian border fort than to an Iraqi border fort - which may mean something, or not.

Regardless, if Iraq considers it a big deal we can always take it back later. Probably no point in getting too worked up right now.
 
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