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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by: Socio
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: piasabird
If the Iranians are sending weapons to terrorists, what makes you think they will not send a nuclear bomb to terrorists? Are we living in a utopia world where Iran does not support terrorism in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, and Isreal?
AK-47s are not nuclear weapons, the principles behind sharing guns with terrorist groups doesn't scale up at all...put another way, the slippery slope fallacy is especially true here. If common sense doesn't convince you, consider that the US and the USSR fought a proxy war through various less than reputable groups for decades, yet you didn't see communist and anti-communist groups in some dirtball South American country blowing each other up with H-Bombs. There is a reason for that, a reason every bit as valid as the reason Iran won't be slipping a nuclear weapon to Osama bin Laden any time soon.
Honestly, when discussing Iran, I think the best way to figure out if someone is full of crap is to find out to what degree they are willing to lump Iran in with "the terrorists". While Iran is no friend of this country, such simplistic generalizations and oversimplifications are dangerous and pretty naive.
They give them a hell of a lot more than just AK-47's! A HELL OF A LOT MORE!
There is also a huge fundamental difference between what went on US and the USSR and what goes on between Israel, US and Iran. The US and USSR did not hate each other they feared each other and wanted to see the others political ideals collapse. Iran on the other hand has a religion induced genocidal death wish for both the US and Israel.
The Socio hypothesis fails the sniff test. After Iran failed to beg, borrow, or steal the weapons to needed to defend itself during the Iraqi invasion of the 1980's, Iran learned its lesson. And has since developed a quite capable home grown armaments industry. Some of these Iranian arms have trickled out to Hezbollah and the world watched as they took out State of the arts Israeli tanks.
No weapons of equivalent power have been allowed to even trickle into Iraq. And if Iran wanted to fight a proxy war with the US in Iraq, it would not even have to leave its borders
but could still flood Iraq with such weapons. And the US occupation of Iraq would become untenable in a matter of days or weeks.
Socio, this has not happened, so your statement is ill thought out. Its simply not in Iran's interests to have Iraq go into an out of control civil war.
But when Uncle Sammy wanted to tweak the nose of the Russian bear in Afghanistan, they flooded Afghanistan with very effective stinger missiles as they armed terrorists. And then did not care when Afghanistan was thereafter left a basket case.