'Iran will blow up the heart of Israel'

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: kylebisme
Palestinians are largely struggling to free themselves from Israeli occupation, which isn't rightly the same thing as destroying Israel.

Given that they brought this "occupation" onto themselves by trying to exterminate Israel in the beginning and for the next 30+ years afterwards.

You are spewing ingnorant and bigoted nonsense which largely stands in conflict to well established historical fact here.

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
They (Hamas) still have in their charter the destruction of Israel.

You got the Hamas having the destruction of Israel in their carter correct. However, it's only your bigotry that allows you to ascribe what is there to Palestinians at large, as your ignorance allows you to ascribe what is there to Hamas at large even though it was never ratified and no one is required to swear to uphold it.

Did the Palestinians side with the Arabs in the '48 conflict
Have the Palestinians assisted the Arabs in the other conflicts.
After the '73 conflict:
Have the Palestinian generated terrorists that attacked civilians and civilian facilities outside of Israel because there were Israelis there?
When has the Palestinian leadership renounced terrorism against Israel.
When has the Palestinians presented a united face to the world for peace.

You have the Palestinian people and the Palestinian leadership.
Who is in charge?

Of course I am bigoted - I have not seem the Palestinian people try for a realistic peace - their leadership will not allow it.
I have seen the land that Israel has been attacked 3 times by Arab countries while the Palestinian people assisted.

Individual Palestinians, I have met and liked. As a whole, those that supported Arafat and Hamas, I reject.

I have been exposed to attacks from Palestinians and seen the damage that their bombers have done to civilians in shopping centers. The purpose of such attacks are not military, but terror and carnage.

Unlike many of their supporters that use the media and college pulpits to form their opinions.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Did the Palestinians side with...

No, that isn't how it went down, and I'm not going to humor your arguments from ignorance to the contrary. If you want to make an argument, state your claims and cite sources to back them, and I will be happy to address those. That said, I've taken the first steps of rational discourse on this matter in this thread, so if you care to start showing respect for reality, that would be the place to do it.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Did the Palestinians side with...

No, that isn't how it went down, and I'm not going to humor your arguments from ignorance to the contrary. If you want to make an argument, state your claims and cite sources to back them, and I will be happy to address those. That said, I've taken the first steps of rational discourse on this matter in this thread, so if you care to start showing respect for reality, that would be the place to do it.

WOOT! There it is! You sly dawg you!

 

[PieIsAwesome]

I am curious as to how exactly Iran plans to go about "blowing up the hear of Israel."

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
I am curious as to how exactly Iran plans to go about "blowing up the hear of Israel."

when you start reading it correctly as heart and not hear

 

[EagleKeeper]

Post was moved to Israeli war crimes thread where better suited for an answer from the Palestinian supporters

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: PJABBER
...the Palestinians that have no qualms against sacrificing innocents in their struggle for the destruction of the State of Israel.

Palestinians are largely struggling to free themselves from Israeli occupation, which isn't rightly the same thing as destroying Israel.

Given that they brought this "occupation" onto themselves by trying to exterminate Israel in the beginning and for the next 30+ years afterwards.

They (Hamas) still have in their charter the destruction of Israel.

They argue that they can't control individuals and then call themselves the governing authority of those people....

I'm sorry but NO nation in the world would take hundreds of rockets a week aimed at their civilians (note, not military, NEVER military) without trying to stop them by occupying ALL of the areas they live in.

If anything, Israel has shown great restraint. Their enemies are hiding amongst civilians.

That does NOT mean that Israel is free of guilt for some actions, like using human shields of Palestinians (we can argue forth and back forever but i have it on good authority that they did) walking ahead of them or the use of WP in densly populated areas (which has been recorded and is part of the UN investigation).

So, you would have supported the British government if it had blanket bombed Republican areas of Northern Ireland during "the troubles"? I think not. So, you can either take pains to point out that the situation is different in each case, or accept that Israel has not demonstrated restraint, has done much to raise tensions in the area and deserves our strongest condemnation for certain actions.

Terrorists hid amongst the civilian population in Northern Ireland, so the same argument can be appllied. Why did the British government not bombard civilian areas? For that matter, why not bombard certain ghetto areas of New York or Los Angeles where criminal activity is rife?

I have presented this argument numerous times when people try to justify Israel's recent actions and I have yet to receive a satisfactory reply, presumably because, in the cold light of day, there is no justification for blanket bombing civilian areas, at least not in my book.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
Link
"Iran will blow up the heart of Israel"

if the United States or the Jewish state attacked it first, a top official with Iran's most powerful military force said

Nice play with words OP: turn around the syntax of the sentence to ensure that focus is placed on the threat to Israel, when in fact the cleric in question was asked what would happen, and I quote you, "if the United States or the Jewish state attacked it first". Let me put it to you, if I asked you how the US would respond to an attack instigated by China, what would you say?

Why not start a new thread "The US will blow up the heart of China"?

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: PJABBER


While the genocide apologists here just repeat the anti-Semite propaganda of the anti-Israeli press,

Where are the genocide apologists in this thread? Provide evidence or refrain from such sensationalist slander.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Post was moved to Israeli war crimes thread where better suited for an answer from the Palestinian supporters

Who are the Palestinian supporters?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

there is no justification for blanket bombing civilian areas, at least not in my book.

From both sides.

Whether from the air or ground!

However, to go in a surgically remove the opponent should be justified without complaining that the opponent is hiding among civilians and civilian infrastructure

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Red Irish

there is no justification for blanket bombing civilian areas, at least not in my book.

From both sides.

Whether from the air or ground!

However, to go in a surgically remove the opponent should be jsutified without complaining that the opponent is hiding moung civilians and civilian infrstructure

I ordered the German Air Force to conduct humanitarian warfare - that is, to attack only fighting troops. The Polish Government and army leadership ordered the civilian population to carry on the war as francs-tireurs from ambush. It is very difficult under these circumstances to hold one's self back. I want to stress that the democratic States should not imagine it must be that way. If they want it otherwise, they can have it otherwise. My patience can have limits here also. . . .
A. Hitler

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Jesus.. some of you clowns really need to lay off the C&C Generals a bit. :roll:

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
Link
"Iran will blow up the heart of Israel"

if the United States or the Jewish state attacked it first, a top official with Iran's most powerful military force said

Nice play with words OP: turn around the syntax of the sentence to ensure that focus is placed on the threat to Israel, when in fact the cleric in question was asked what would happen, and I quote you, "if the United States or the Jewish state attacked it first". Let me put it to you, if I asked you how the US would respond to an attack instigated by China, what would you say?

Why not start a new thread "The US will blow up the heart of China"?

nice try to trick people into thinking I played with words.

this has nothing to do with china.

read the title. that is a quote. notice the ' before and ' after.

it says (spread out) if the US or Israel attacks out country, we will attack Israel, even if they were not a part of the attack.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Red Irish

there is no justification for blanket bombing civilian areas, at least not in my book.

From both sides.

Whether from the air or ground!

However, to go in a surgically remove the opponent should be jsutified without complaining that the opponent is hiding moung civilians and civilian infrstructure

I ordered the German Air Force to conduct humanitarian warfare - that is, to attack only fighting troops. The Polish Government and army leadership ordered the civilian population to carry on the war as francs-tireurs from ambush. It is very difficult under these circumstances to hold one's self back. I want to stress that the democratic States should not imagine it must be that way. If they want it otherwise, they can have it otherwise. My patience can have limits here also. . . .
A. Hitler

Great, yet another ignorant person trying to compare Israel to Nazis.


Did you know Germany wiped out ENTIRE VILLAGES. ENTIRE VILLAGES!!! talking hundreds of CIVILIANS? did they fight back? did they resist? did they do anything wrong? did they even say a word of insult? NO! they were put in a line and shot at or taken to DEATH and WORK to DEATH camps.

Secondly, one could consider the civilians as troops because they allow terrorists to use their apartments, schools, mosques, and land to fire weapons from.

so by your logic, they are considered terrorists because they allow these things to happen.

there are two types of evil in this world those who commit acts of evil and those that watch and do nothing

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Red Irish

there is no justification for blanket bombing civilian areas, at least not in my book.

From both sides.

Whether from the air or ground!

However, to go in a surgically remove the opponent should be jsutified without complaining that the opponent is hiding moung civilians and civilian infrstructure

I ordered the German Air Force to conduct humanitarian warfare - that is, to attack only fighting troops. The Polish Government and army leadership ordered the civilian population to carry on the war as francs-tireurs from ambush. It is very difficult under these circumstances to hold one's self back. I want to stress that the democratic States should not imagine it must be that way. If they want it otherwise, they can have it otherwise. My patience can have limits here also. . . .
A. Hitler

Great, yet another ignorant person trying to compare Israel to Nazis.


Did you know Germany wiped out ENTIRE VILLAGES. ENTIRE VILLAGES!!! talking hundreds of CIVILIANS? did they fight back? did they resist? did they do anything wrong? did they even say a word of insult? NO! they were put in a line and shot at or taken to DEATH and WORK to DEATH camps.

Secondly, one could consider the civilians as troops because they allow terrorists to use their apartments, schools, mosques, and land to fire weapons from.

so by your logic, they are considered terrorists because they allow these things to happen.

there are two types of evil in this world those who commit acts of evil and those that watch and do nothing

Yeah, that's what your friend said.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
Link
"Iran will blow up the heart of Israel"

if the United States or the Jewish state attacked it first, a top official with Iran's most powerful military force said

Nice play with words OP: turn around the syntax of the sentence to ensure that focus is placed on the threat to Israel, when in fact the cleric in question was asked what would happen, and I quote you, "if the United States or the Jewish state attacked it first". Let me put it to you, if I asked you how the US would respond to an attack instigated by China, what would you say?

Why not start a new thread "The US will blow up the heart of China"?

nice try to trick people into thinking I played with words.

this has nothing to do with china.

read the title. that is a quote. notice the ' before and ' after.

it says (spread out) if the US or Israel attacks out country, we will attack Israel, even if they were not a part of the attack.

I am not in the business of forcing camels to drink their water.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Red Irish

there is no justification for blanket bombing civilian areas, at least not in my book.

From both sides.

Whether from the air or ground!

However, to go in a surgically remove the opponent should be jsutified without complaining that the opponent is hiding moung civilians and civilian infrstructure

I ordered the German Air Force to conduct humanitarian warfare - that is, to attack only fighting troops. The Polish Government and army leadership ordered the civilian population to carry on the war as francs-tireurs from ambush. It is very difficult under these circumstances to hold one's self back. I want to stress that the democratic States should not imagine it must be that way. If they want it otherwise, they can have it otherwise. My patience can have limits here also. . . .
A. Hitler

Great, yet another ignorant person trying to compare Israel to Nazis.


Did you know Germany wiped out ENTIRE VILLAGES. ENTIRE VILLAGES!!! talking hundreds of CIVILIANS? did they fight back? did they resist? did they do anything wrong? did they even say a word of insult? NO! they were put in a line and shot at or taken to DEATH and WORK to DEATH camps.

Secondly, one could consider the civilians as troops because they allow terrorists to use their apartments, schools, mosques, and land to fire weapons from.

so by your logic, they are considered terrorists because they allow these things to happen.

there are two types of evil in this world those who commit acts of evil and those that watch and do nothing

Yeah, that's what your friend said.

You didnt even underline the line below it, which was a continuation of the paragraph. if you want to pick apart and try to say crap about that go somewhere else, because we are trying to have a real discussion here