Iran Ships to Patrol Atlantic

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Fern

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Couldn't care less.

Hope they visit the Bermuda Triangle.

Fern
 

Kadarin

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http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/110928123920-iran-navy-c1-main.jpg

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looks like one of the sailors is feeling up the other one.


does the iranian navy have a DADT policy, for activities that happen on board?

It's like we're going to get attacked by the Village People.
 

Brovane

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Why would they need to make a port call? Ever hear of underway replenishment? All they would need is a supply ship that could pull into port to get fuel oil and food supplies.

Underway replenishment takes a lot of skill and practice. I doubt the Iranian navy would be capable of doing this activity even if they had the logistic ships capable of doing a underway replenishment. It requires specific setup on each side to do this. The US Navy has been doing underway replenishment for decades and has it down to a fine art. In this case I suspect the naval ships will be stopping to fuel at ports along the way. What will be interesting is what they will be doing once they get across the Atlantic. They might be using Cuba as a forward base to get fuel and suppllies. It is really hard keeping a ship at see for months at a time without making any port calls. Only a handful of Navy's in the world can do this and the Iranian navy isn't one of them.
 

Infohawk

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The US Navy is stronger than the rest of the world's navy combined. I'm not too worried about it.
 

Oric

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No one really wrote about WHY Iran made such a move.

Iran is an old state, they know what the meaning of pride is and when United States takes an armada of ships in the Persian Gulf, they retaliate on their own. Of course there is much much difference in power, technology, size but they show their flag ... how many nations, other than russia and china dare to do that ?
 

OCGuy

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No one really wrote about WHY Iran made such a move.

Iran is an old state, they know what the meaning of pride is and when United States takes an armada of ships in the Persian Gulf, they retaliate on their own. Of course there is much much difference in power, technology, size but they show their flag ... how many nations, other than russia and china dare to do that ?

Huh? What move did they make, exactly?


I swear some people comment before reading.
 

OCGuy

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Symbolism ... Any move you make against me i don't kneel down and accept ....

So a guy in the military saying that someday (if they ever get the capability) they are going to patrol off our shores is doing what, exactly? He gets his name splashed around political message boards for a couple days?

Or are you obtuse enough to believe this is actually going to happen?
 

tydas

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Listen, they can't be that inept..I'm sure they could at least manage a 'drive by'..off course sticking around is a different matter...
 

EagleKeeper

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It takes a carrier a week to cross the Atlantic at 30+ knots

A destroyer/frigate will take even longer.

I do not know if they (Iran) have the fuel capability to cross on their own.
 
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No one really wrote about WHY Iran made such a move.

Iran is an old state, they know what the meaning of pride is and when United States takes an armada of ships in the Persian Gulf, they retaliate on their own. Of course there is much much difference in power, technology, size but they show their flag ... how many nations, other than russia and china dare to do that ?
Iran itself isn't that old. It's an area with an ancient history but not as Iran so "pride" due to some sort of longstanding State identity really doesn't explain things.

More likely it's another display of Iran's usual inferiority complex and their desperate desire to be a superpower, a title they are nowhere near attaining. Iran is like a stupid chihuahua; a little dog that imagines itself to be a big dog.
 

chihlidog

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This gave me a great laugh when I read it yesterday. I hope they do, I truly hope they do. That's quite an impressive "warship" :D
 

yllus

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As long as they stay within international waters they are fine. Actually we should invite them to make a port of call in New York while the Iranian navy is out and about.

Yep, I think the U.S. should play with with a poker face and invite them to make a stop in NYC harbour. Take their sailors on a tour, show them how great life is over here, subtly hint that pleas for asylum would be taken well. Really drive the knife home deep. :D
 

davmat787

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Underway replenishment takes a lot of skill and practice. I doubt the Iranian navy would be capable of doing this activity even if they had the logistic ships capable of doing a underway replenishment. It requires specific setup on each side to do this. The US Navy has been doing underway replenishment for decades and has it down to a fine art. In this case I suspect the naval ships will be stopping to fuel at ports along the way. What will be interesting is what they will be doing once they get across the Atlantic. They might be using Cuba as a forward base to get fuel and suppllies. It is really hard keeping a ship at see for months at a time without making any port calls. Only a handful of Navy's in the world can do this and the Iranian navy isn't one of them.

This. Specific ships are designed just for underway replenishment, with compatible receiving/transceiving equipment on each ship. Plus the dedicated crews on each ship. I wonder if the Iranian Navy even has the skill to keep to ships at the same speed and distance required to do this. Photo of US Navy conducting an underway replenishment:

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Londo_Jowo

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Underway replenishment is not rocket science and has been done by the Iranian Navy for decades. In the mid 70's we provided them with the technology and trained them on US ships. I saw them performing Un-Rep over 25 years ago in the Persian Gulf.


The US Navy ships maintain a constant speed and heading, these days is far easier with the newer controls/engines but once upon a time it was done by the helmsman and throttleman on the main engine throttle valve.
 

OCGuy

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Underway replenishment is not rocket science and has been done by the Iranian Navy for decades. In the mid 70's we provided them with the technology and trained them on US ships. I saw them performing Un-Rep over 25 years ago in the Persian Gulf.

They have not been doing long-distance replenishment. Sorry, not even close.

Only a couple countries have this capability, Iran is not one of them.
 

Craig234

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When was the last time we used the Monroe Doctrine?

This has nothing to do with the Monroe Doctrine; in fact, the Monroe Doctrine would justify Iran saying the US has no business in Iraq and has to leave.

If we can declare other nations near us 'our' sphere of influence other powers are not allowed to gain power in, so can Iran, China, India, Russia and other powers.
 

Balt

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Underway replenishment takes a lot of skill and practice. I doubt the Iranian navy would be capable of doing this activity even if they had the logistic ships capable of doing a underway replenishment. It requires specific setup on each side to do this. The US Navy has been doing underway replenishment for decades and has it down to a fine art. In this case I suspect the naval ships will be stopping to fuel at ports along the way. What will be interesting is what they will be doing once they get across the Atlantic. They might be using Cuba as a forward base to get fuel and suppllies. It is really hard keeping a ship at see for months at a time without making any port calls. Only a handful of Navy's in the world can do this and the Iranian navy isn't one of them.

Yeah. Unless they can get Cuba (or maybe Venezuela) to help them resupply, I don't see this happening.
 

a777pilot

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It takes a carrier a week to cross the Atlantic at 30+ knots

A destroyer/frigate will take even longer.

I do not know if they (Iran) have the fuel capability to cross on their own.

Two things: First a CVN would not travel at that speed if only for the reason that it's escorts would not be able to keep up. Then there is the fact that it is only about 3,350 nm from Gibraltar to Norfolk. (That's just 4 and a half days at 30 kts.)

Let them come, or at least try. They only have three ships that have the range, but barely.

Intentions mean nothing. Capabilities are everything.