-------Iran Resumes Nuclear Weapons Program

[thatsright]

Iran renews its membership in the Axis of Evil by removing U.N. seals on its nuclear equipment

Bush is jumping up and down with a hard-on right now!

ITS OFFICIAL, Iran to start glowing again.

 

[Todd33]

If we go to war, is Iraq on their side or ours? LOL.

 

[Kibbo]

The North will be on yours, the South against.

Gee, that sounds familiar.

 

[CanOWorms]

The EU is pretty mad too since Iran broke an agreement with them.

 

[alchemize]

Not exactly the brightest bunch running that country?

"Hmm, the US just invaded our Eastern and Western neighbors. We'll show them, let's build nukes faster, and openly!"

 

[RabidMongoose]

Would anyone support an attack against Iran?

 

[maddogchen]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Would anyone support an attack against Iran?

only if its by the EU. or Canada

 

[Todd33]

Barring a direct attack, no one would believe Bush or anything the intellegence agengies tell us. We have lost all credibility in the world, it will take 10+ years to get back to where we were.

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Would anyone support an attack against Iran?

Sure, the PNAC bunch would. And those who remember that little hostage flap during the Carter years.

 

[glenn1]

Having been convinced by France and the Democrats that pre-emption is no longer allowable in this age, I say we really have no choice but allow Iraq to build as many nukes as they wish.

 

[jpeyton]

Fvck Bush. I hope Iran builds nukes just to spite him.

 

[glenn1]

Fvck Bush. I hope Iran builds nukes just to spite him.

And I hope they drop it on you.

Saying you hope Iran builds nukes just to spite Bush has to be the stupidest sentiment I've ever heard voiced on this board, and that's saying something.

 

[Willian]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Would anyone support an attack against Iran?

Yes

 

[Todd33]

What happened to your sig Willian? Did your mom make you change it?

 

[Willian]

Originally posted by: Todd33
What happened to your sig Willian? Did your mom make you change it?

Liberalism

 

[imported_CADMaster]

We have the military equipment already in the area surrounding Iraq to take any military response the President requests.

This gives the US unprecidented negotiating power and a very strong and immediate response time should the Iranians do anything stupid.

This is a perfect time to obtain a unanymous resolution in the UN and begin sending Iran clear warning signals that they are increasingly travelling down a road to their own destruction.
I wouldn't rely solely on the UN, but I would certainly like them to reinstate themselves as a force for good in the world rather than the empty-threated windbag that we have seen recently.

What really worries me is that this may be a diversion while some other country is going unnoticed and successfully building a high yeild nuke with the intent to detonate at a US western port sending radiation into the Easterly moving atmosphere, spreading radiation across the continent. To defend against nuclear terrorism, we must be willing to use our imagination and say to ourselves, "How would I do it".

Iran is not that great a threat, IMO. They haven't much of a conventional army and they are currently under a microscope and surrounded by the majority of the US Armed Forces. I'd rather see the IAEA in Lybia making sure our new friend Moammar is keeping his promises to abandon nuclear weapons technology.

 

[imported_CADMaster]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Would anyone support an attack against Iran?

Possibly an air strike or two, but certainly not an invasion at this point.

A real touchy question will obviously be, "How reliable is our intelligence on the matter?"

At this point, I'm not willing to say our intel is sufficient for an attack.

But since I don't have clearance from my wife to leave the toilet seat up at home, I certainly don't know what intelligence the government has.

Another good question would be, "If Iran, or any other country for that matter, were to attack the US with nukes (either dirty or high yeild), would it be the President's fault for not pre-emptively acting on potentially faulty intelligence from around the globe? (regardless who is the President at the time)
And what should the US response be?



edit: omitting last sentence so as not to offend or politicize the question.
Nothing really that bad, but politically partisan, and I thought better of it.

 

[Jhhnn]

Put yourselves in the place of Iranian patriots, and it's a whole different perspective.

If anything, the trash talking from the Bush Admin has solidified the Ayatollahs' hold on the population, and made the nuclear option into a necessity, from their pov...

Which was, of course, the whole point of the "Axis of Evil" speech- Straussian NeoCon foreign policy demands enemies, even if that involves deliberate provocation of other countries' self preservation instincts... If it weren't for the manufactured threat of "rogue nations with nuclear weapons", there would be no justification for NMD, or pre-emptive war, either...

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Put yourselves in the place of Iranian patriots, and it's a whole different perspective.

If anything, the trash talking from the Bush Admin has solidified the Ayatollahs' hold on the population, and made the nuclear option into a necessity, from their pov...

Which was, of course, the whole point of the "Axis of Evil" speech- Straussian NeoCon foreign policy demands enemies, even if that involves deliberate provocation of other countries' self preservation instincts... If it weren't for the manufactured threat of "rogue nations with nuclear weapons", there would be no justification for NMD, or pre-emptive war, either...

Winnar....

Some think its much nicer to have black and white Evil Axises around the world, rather than someone who can be negotiated with or gasp involved in technology deals with the Yuropeons.

Zephyr

 

[MoFunk]

The way liberal America shreaded Bush for liberating Iraq, we will have to wait until Iran drops a nuke or 50 in our backyard. Then once again it will be GW's fault for not doing something to stop this.

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: MoFunk
The way liberal America shreaded Bush for liberating Iraq, we will have to wait until Iran drops a nuke or 50 in our backyard. Then once again it will be GW's fault for not doing something to stop this.

Well at least we prevented Iraq from dropping nukes on us in 45 minutes.

Zephyr

 

[Stunt]

well if iraq and north korea has taught us anything, getting nukes is the only way to NOT to get invaded.
iran is already an 'evil' country with little respect from the rest of the world, what do they have to lose?
US army is so stretched thin at the moment, election year, lots of anti war sentiment (esp. in europe), and the like, this is a VERY smart move by iran.

Now i'm not supporting nukes, but as a side note, who SHOULD have nukes? When the US pulled out of reducing nuclear stocks, they set the benchmark for the rest of the world. It is a case of monkey see, monkey do...big military, nukes, extreme religeous leadership, unilateralism...

Not so different if you ask me...

 

[Stunt]

Who can and can't have nukes?...who makes the list, who enforces it?

Nuclear capabilities: Britain, China, France, India, Pakistan, Russia, United States, Israel (i think)

Iran is just as worthy as pakistan...why not invade half of asia, rid the third world of nukes, they don't deserve them!

Maybe just pick on the countries with small populations to avoid casualties...i dunno, where do you draw the line...help me think like a republican

 

[RabidMongoose]

I was only aware of the US executing an option in a treaty to start the missile defense program. I thought the US was still actively trying to reduce the nuclear arsenal, even paying fees for Russia to reduce their nuclear arsenal.

I think most countries would probably try to obtain a nuclear arsenal to protect itself, regardless of the US/UK/coalition or not.

 

[thuper]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Fvck Bush. I hope Iran builds nukes just to spite him.

That's actually EXACTLY why North Korea did it. He added them to his axis of evil list, so they decided to show him evil. Of course, he chooses to ignore.