Iran promises revenge..... in 30 or 40 years from now. Maybe 50.

sportage

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It just occurred to me, any president starting a war or conflict within an election cycle can almost ensure that resident will be re-elected.
Republican presidents have a knack for pulling this stunt.
To further unite Trump's base and to re-unite those cross-over voters from 2016.
And I have no doubt that Mike Pompeo and others urged Donald Trump to take this action to ensure his re-election, and for no other reason.
After all, this is how they operate. We know that. We all know that.
IT'S ANOTHER DONALD TRUMP GIMMICK.
Interesting thing however, once re-elected and as that war continues, the people grow tired of the war and the cost and the never ending engagement thus that same president is suddenly hated immensely come the end of his second term.
War sounds fun and exciting, especially when the couch potato republicans don't have to physically fight in those wars.
Sit back and let someone else do the fighting. Duh.

And lets face it....
Middle Easterns can hold a grudge for a long long LONG time, even for decades.
Unlike the US where we operate in knee-jerk reactions, Middle Easterns might take 30 - 50 years to plan out their revenge.
Remember, those Middle Eastern countries do not have the military might or capability to knee-jerk react. They must be creative.

So...... what happens instead is that they will plan.
They will take all the time in the world to quietly plan their revenge.
Then, one day some 30 - 40 years from now something will happen. Some terrorist attack like 9/11 or like some other attack targeting America.
Then America will ask.... WHY?
WHY THIS ATTACK?
WHY NOW?
WHAT DID WE DO TO YOU?
And when that terrorist attack does take place some 30 - 40 years from now, it will be their revenge for the killing of the top Iranian commander way way WAY back in January of 2020.
JANUARY OF 2020 YOU SAY ????
Yep! That was the reason.
The reason they attack some 40 freaking years later. :eek:

They never forget.
They can hold a grudge for decades.
And they will eventually have their revenge.
Another problem we have to worry about, that in 30 - 40 years from now Iran and the terrorist just may have nuclear weapon capabilities to carry out their revenge against America. Revenge for that Trump strike against Iran way way back in 2020.
THIS is how it works and... how they operate over there in those Middle Eastern nations.
America has all might and power to strike within minutes even when that effort may be grossly misguided and the reaction grossly underestimated.
Terrorist, however, and Iran have no such power at their disposal. Terrorist must plan small scale terrorist attacks that will result in major damage with always including the element of surprise.
Heck.... before 9/11 Bin Laden sent his terrorist to flight school before they took action.
Now THAT was some damn major planning.
And they do love to plan, and they will hold a grudge for decades.
What is a decade?
It is only the passing of time for them and for their revenge.
 
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Grooveriding

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If they have the ability to restrain themselves, Iran should bottle up their pride and wait out Trump. There is a fair chance he's gone later this year. Trump is an unstable lunatic, surrounded by religious fanatics. This is a dangerous situation as Iran is largely the flipside to that same coin. The difference being, Trump has a lot more firepower at his disposal.

What happens if they decide to go for war and his advisors start telling him how Iran is no Iraq, and another invasion and occupation like was done in Iraq, is going to be nowhere near as easy? That the cost of US lives is going to be much higher, which will cost Trump domestically. The last the world needs is Trump deciding he'll just drop a nuke. Tehran is one of the most populous cities in the world, unlike Iraq where the US invasion cost approx. 400,000 innocent lives there, I'd expect we'd see at least a million murdered in Iran by another US bombing campaign and invasion, possible multiple millions. Even without Trump going full fanatic and dropping one.

This is a very bad time, two nations run by rogue extremist governments, both with leaders surrounded by religious fanatics, allowing that to inform their decision making. Pompeo is a religious evangelical lunatic, as is Pence. Trump is an amoral degenerate, and while he appears to be nowhere near religious, the deification he's getting from these lunatics is feeding his narcissism, and his lack of humanity is going to leave him inclined to in no way consider the lives of all the people he'll murder in Iran with another illegal war.

It would be nice if NATO and the rest of the first world would finally say enough is enough and outright start calling out the current US administration for what it is; a corrupt anti-democratic regime. I don't think anyone will by signing up for another illegal US war - against Iran this time, apart from perhaps Israel, and ironically, the Saudis. Go figure, this is an upside down world.

Putin is a genious, he fucked the US good and hard.
 
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cytg111

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The Russians always were the better Chess players. No fan of Putin, but he bought the Winning Lotto ticket.
Its not even the same game. Russia : Putin for 20 years with a singular mind, bringing together govenment, oligarks, military, intelligence, crime and propaganda to a singular purpose. To end you.
And here you are. Electing DJT. Putins puppet. Your own oligarks vaging war on your own people a vrecked intelligence community, constitution on fire and your people at each others throats at the behest of state side propaganda apparatuses like Fox Breitbart etc.
I dont see you winning this one. Sorry.
 

Jaskalas

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For winning wars, Russia and China may have superior political systems. Like Capitalism, United States Democracy has devolved into something unwieldy. It needs alterations in order to survive.
 

Wreckem

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The US just gave Iran a clear reason why it should proceed with finishing its development of nuclear weapons.

Iran’s revenge will likely be prolonged cyber attacks and developing nuclear weapons. The later will be a big fuck you to the US.
 

senseamp

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The only good thing about this coming war is that anyone who is in the military now already got fair warning of what they are in for, courtesy of the Iraq war, and had a chance to not reenlist if they didn't want to fight wars based on endless lies for the benefit of politicians and businesses interests.
 

JEDIYoda

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This is a very bad time, two nations run by rogue extremist governments, both with leaders surrounded by religious fanatics, allowing that to inform their decision making. Pompeo is a religious evangelical lunatic, as is Pence. Trump is an amoral degenerate, and while he appears to be nowhere near religious, the deification he's getting from these lunatics is feeding his narcissism, and his lack of humanity is going to leave him inclined to in no way consider the lives of all the people he'll murder in Iran with another illegal war.
I commend you for stating the obvious -- two nations run by rogue extremists organization -- and one of those organizations is the United States government!! carry on Patriot!!
 

JEDIYoda

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Its not even the same game. Russia : Putin for 20 years with a singular mind, bringing together govenment, oligarks, military, intelligence, crime and propaganda to a singular purpose. To end you.
And here you are. Electing DJT. Putins puppet. Your own oligarks vaging war on your own people a vrecked intelligence community, constitution on fire and your people at each others throats at the behest of state side propaganda apparatuses like Fox Breitbart etc.
I dont see you winning this one. Sorry.
My friend -- i totally agree! The best and I do mean the best we can hope for is to get the ,,,,,,, out of the Middle East! Worst case scenario is Doony decides to attempt to use tactical nukes against Iran.....
I believe the world has already called Donny on his behavior and its like talking to a brick wll!!
 
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US is so institutionally corrupt, divided and fractured and getting increasingly so, it might break apart or be in another civil war within the next 50 years. How many Trumps, McConnells, and Roberts' can it survive and for how long?
 

JEDIYoda

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US is so institutionally corrupt, divided and fractured and getting increasingly so, it might break apart or be in another civil war within the next 50 years. How many Trumps, McConnells, and Roberts' can it survive and for how long?
I can solve the problem -- table to 2020 elections and have coronation -- King TRUMP!!
Change the name of the White house to the White Castle!
Then we also call those who guard King Trump the Imperial White Castle Guards....
Then Trump can eat White Castle hamburgers all day long....
 
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US is so institutionally corrupt, divided and fractured and getting increasingly so, it might break apart or be in another civil war within the next 50 years. How many Trumps, McConnells, and Roberts' can it survive and for how long?

It looks to be on cruise control for some sort of self-destruction of one type or another. How sustainable is an electoral system that allows minority rule? Eventually the majority, which continues to grow, is going to have enough of it. While the minority continue to push radical, extremist positions. Most of which have nothing to do with the well-being of a nation, and are just peripheral social issues centered around oppressing the desires of how some of the majority can live their lives. Things that have no fundamental affect on a country's well-being, just red meat issues that rile up the radicalized base.
 
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Trump is mystery of the universe....

A pile of feces that walks talks and looks like a person.

Of course he would start a conflict to distract from impeachment it was rather foolish to expect otherwise.



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