Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Whatever credibility you're seeking went right down the porcelain bowl with this, chucky2-
You're way out there, pal- way, way out there... comparing the current situation to Pearl Harbor. If that and 9/11 are what you want to base this whole WoT on, then we should be invading KSA- that's where the 9/11 attackers came from, and where the money came from, and where the wahabbi spiritual inspiration came from- not Iran.
And the whole bit about the Iranians "giving" a nuke to "terrorists" is laughable. No nuclear state has ever relinquished control of any weapon to anybody else, not even their closest allies. They are some of a State's most prized possessions, and the ulltimate deterrent to any aggressor.
Which is not to say that the Iranians have or are making any. There's absolutely no proof that they are, and plenty of evidence that their program is peaceful, so far. OTOH, if we want that to change, attacking them is probably the best way to accomplish that...
I'm out of line, how? Extremists in the form of Japanese (and I have no problem with the Japanese, just so we don't have to get off track) decided to end diplomacy and sneak attack Pearl, causing many American deaths, and us to jump into WWII. I guess you're right...what the 9/11 folks did is even worse, as they didn't even try diplomacy, they just outright attacked us, and used civilian planes with civilians in them to destroy civilian targets - on purpose...no errant cruise missle or bomb there.
Saddam is the reason we went after Iraq instead of KSA...because no one in the world really gives that much of a care about him, unlike the royal family in KSA. My point was that we did not go there as retribution for 9/11 - that was Afghanistan - but rather to start the extremely long process of opening the ME eyes to the real West - not the one the radicals over there spoon feed them.
Is that gamble working? I'd say we're not even 50/50 overall right now....but running like pssies probably isn't going to leave a good impression, nor do things like Abu or fabricated things like Koran desecration at Gitmo.
No state that has nukes gives them out because, guess why???? Those states are either Western and not extremist, India or Pakistani who are in a showdown, and China who's so big they just don't care. It's not like the US is going to give a nuke to the Vatican and then the Vatican is going to go Muslim shopping...
As for the Iranians not making any, see my above to MegaWorks...
Chuck
