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Iran Missile Test a Fraud

NaughtyGeek

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A bunch of fuss over old technology. Just shows what lengths both sides are willing to go in this confrontation to antagonize the other. I'm convinced at this point that Washington is itching to pull the trigger and wholeheartedly believe the Iranians are doing everything they can to provoke it. Just sad.
 
Oil hit $147/barrel today. I think the missile test was a success.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Oil hit $147/barrel today. I think the missile test was a success.

If I could get a major news outlet to say that I spilled some oil on my garage floor after changing the engine oil in my car I think we could hit $150.

The oil market has lost all sense of reason with the speculation that's going on.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Oil hit $147/barrel today. I think the missile test was a success.

Yesterday was the day oil rose over the Iran missile test. Today, oil rose mainly on the rumor that the Israeli Air Force was practincing maneuvers over Iraq air space and from US air bases in Iraq. It was later debunked by the Pentagon but the damage had already been done and oil, while losing some of it's bull run, remained several dollars higher than the close yesterday.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
The missile test was real

Iran has been known to use older photos and claim that they are recent. GP has a recent round-up.

There's also questions about whether the missile they show that they are shooting has the capabilities that they claim or if it is just an older model.

I remember another photo where they claimed to have new super jet fighter...that turned out to be an older model.

In short, don't trust much coming out of Iran.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Aimster
The missile test was real

Iran has been known to use older photos and claim that they are recent. GP has a recent round-up.

There's also questions about whether the missile they show that they are shooting has the capabilities that they claim or if it is just an older model.

I remember another photo where they claimed to have new super jet fighter...that turned out to be an older model.

In short, don't trust much coming out of Iran.

There is a video of the missile tests as well as a picture I just posted.

Iran did not alter the image. A newspaper altered it. Hundreds of other newspapers had the real image.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Aimster
The missile test was real

Iran has been known to use older photos and claim that they are recent. GP has a recent round-up.

There's also questions about whether the missile they show that they are shooting has the capabilities that they claim or if it is just an older model.

I remember another photo where they claimed to have new super jet fighter...that turned out to be an older model.

In short, don't trust much coming out of Iran.

There is a video of the missile tests as well as a picture I just posted.

Iran did not alter the image. A newspaper altered it. Hundreds of other newspapers had the real image.

From the OP's link about the NYT piece that is supposed to come out tomorrow.

Iran DID NOT launch a Shahab-3 missile, able to reach Israel.

It was an older missile that was out of production, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.

And a video showing what appeared to be many missiles being fired -- is actually one missile, filmed from different angles!
 
Those articles are wrong written by people who write their articles based on other people's articles.

The U.S said 6 missiles were fired. These were picked up on radar. A 7th missile was fired on the 2nd day (the lone missile which was photoshopped). It failed to launch.
You can clearly see the missiles being fired in the video.

Iran released the original image and some newspaper thought it would be funny to photoshop it.
Just like the jet. Iran made a jet based off of a U.S jet they had, I believe F-5. Some newspaper got the ground jet aircraft and made it look like it was flying in the air.
 
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i don't know if fars news agency is official, but they sure as hell have that photoshopped pic on their site
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Those articles are wrong written by people who write their articles based on other people's articles.

The U.S said 6 missiles were fired. These were picked up on radar. A 7th missile was fired on the 2nd day (the lone missile which was photoshopped). It failed to launch.
You can clearly see the missiles being fired in the video.

Iran released the original image and some newspaper thought it would be funny to photoshop it.
Just like the jet. Iran made a jet based off of a U.S jet they had, I believe F-5. Some newspaper got the ground jet aircraft and made it look like it was flying in the air.

Who runs the Iranian newspapers? Oh yeah...Iran.

Anyways, you're still missing the point of the OP which is, according to an article coming out in tomorrow's NYT, the missile that they launched is not what Iran says it is.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Aimster
Those articles are wrong written by people who write their articles based on other people's articles.

The U.S said 6 missiles were fired. These were picked up on radar. A 7th missile was fired on the 2nd day (the lone missile which was photoshopped). It failed to launch.
You can clearly see the missiles being fired in the video.

Iran released the original image and some newspaper thought it would be funny to photoshop it.
Just like the jet. Iran made a jet based off of a U.S jet they had, I believe F-5. Some newspaper got the ground jet aircraft and made it look like it was flying in the air.

Who runs the Iranian newspapers? Oh yeah...Iran.

Anyways, you're still missing the point of the OP which is, according to an article coming out in tomorrow's NYT, the missile that they launched is not what Iran says it is.

Iran doesn't run the Iranian newspapers. It monitors them.
It does not control an editor who wishes to edit a picture.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Aimster
Those articles are wrong written by people who write their articles based on other people's articles.

The U.S said 6 missiles were fired. These were picked up on radar. A 7th missile was fired on the 2nd day (the lone missile which was photoshopped). It failed to launch.
You can clearly see the missiles being fired in the video.

Iran released the original image and some newspaper thought it would be funny to photoshop it.
Just like the jet. Iran made a jet based off of a U.S jet they had, I believe F-5. Some newspaper got the ground jet aircraft and made it look like it was flying in the air.

Who runs the Iranian newspapers? Oh yeah...Iran.

Anyways, you're still missing the point of the OP which is, according to an article coming out in tomorrow's NYT, the missile that they launched is not what Iran says it is.

Iran doesn't run the Iranian newspapers. It monitors them.
It does not control an editor who wishes to edit a picture.

And when you're in a Mullahacracy like Iran where gov't agents go around smashing satellite dishes, hanging gays in public, and beating people in the streets for not having on the right clothes, monitoring may as well be the same thing as running.

The Iranian Republic News Agency is a state run paper.
The Fars News Agency is privately owned but is close to the Iranian government.
 
The Iranian Republic News Agency photo is not the photo that the people are claiming to be photoshopped.

There are hundreds of videos of Iranian missile tests.
The U.S even monitored the test and said 6 missiles were fired. Is the U.S lying now?

It is a fact Iran has missiles capable of hitting Israel. This is not something new.
Iran launched a massive missile test a few months ago. Videos of the test are all over.

If Iran had no missiles capable of hitting Israel then Israel would not bother with their arrow missile defense system.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
The Iranian Republic News Agency photo is not the photo that the people are claiming to be photoshopped.

There are hundreds of videos of Iranian missile tests.
The U.S even monitored the test and said 6 missiles were fired. Is the U.S lying now?

It is a fact Iran has missiles capable of hitting Israel. This is not something new.
Iran launched a massive missile test a few months ago. Videos of the test are all over.

If Iran had no missiles capable of hitting Israel then Israel would not bother with their arrow missile defense system.

I'm not going to keep going around in circles here. Read the link in the OP about the NYT article.

Iran DID NOT launch a Shahab-3 missile, able to reach Israel.

It was an older missile that was out of production, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.

And a video showing what appeared to be many missiles being fired -- is actually one missile, filmed from different angles!
 
We'll see what the NYT article has to say when it comes out and find out whether or not it is credible.
 
That is the actual video of the launch.

I see 3 missiles.
How the hell can NYT say otherwise?

You can also clearly see one of the missiles did not launch. That is where the photoshop picture came into place.

To say the missile test was a fake is silly. One missile failed to launch and was launched the next day.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
That is the actual video of the launch.

I see 3 missiles.
How the hell can NYT say otherwise?

You can also clearly see one of the missiles did not launch. That is where the photoshop picture came into place.

To say the missile test was a fake is silly. One missile failed to launch and was launched the next day.

There's more question than just the number of missiles. There is also the question of whether or not that missile does what the Iranians claim it does. Like I said, Iran has a history of making stuff up

February 7, 2008: Iran, or, to be more precise, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), announced that they had flight tested a new, Iranian made, helicopter gunship. They also announced a new UAV with a range of 2,000 kilometers. Five months ago, the Iranians showed off a new Iranian made jet fighter, which appeared to be a make-work project for unemployed engineers. It's a bunch of rearranged parts on an old U.S. made F-5 (which was roughly equivalent to a 1950s era MiG-21). The new fighter, like so many other Iranian weapons projects, is more for PR than for improving military power.

If you go back and look at the many Iranian announcements of newly developed, high tech, weapons, all you find is a photo op for a prototype. Production versions of these weapons rarely show up. Iranians know that, while the clerics and politicians talk a tough game, they rarely do anything. Even Iranian support of Islamic terrorism has been far less effective than the rhetoric. The Iranians have always been cautious, which is one reason Arabs fear them. When the Iranians do make their move, it tends to be decisive. But at the moment, the Iranians have no means to make a decisive move. Their military is mostly myth, having been run down by decades of sanctions, and the disruptions of the 1980s war with Iraq. Their most effective weapon is bluster, and, so far, it appears to be working.

But the Iranians know that nuclear weapons would make their bluff and bluster even more muscular. Even the suspicion that they had nukes would be beneficial. And that appears to be the current plan. One new weapon the Iranians do put a lot of money and effort into are ballistic missiles. They are building an extended range (from 1,300 to 1,800 kilometer) version of their Shahab 3 ballistic missile. The new version puts all of Israel within range, even if fired from deep inside Iran. Chemical warheads (with nerve gas) are thought to be available for these missiles. But Israel has threatened to reply with nuclear weapons if the Iranians attack this way. Iran would probably get the worst of such an exchange, and the Iranians are aware of it.

Not all of the clerics that run the country are eager to go to war with Israel, or even threaten it. But because the clerical factions do not want to appear at odds with each other in public, the more radical leaders are allowed to rant away about attacking Israel. That's also the thinking behind the many IRGC press conferences announcing imaginary new weapons. The clerics are not going spend billions on mass production of second rate systems that are most notable for being designed in Iran.

So I'm not going to take Iranian claims at face value.
 
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