Iran just might be on the brink of another revolution . . .

[CaptnKirk]

And it might not be a bad thing

But then - it might be a tinderbox that could explode into a widespread Civil War.
With our presence in Iraq we might be able to nude it over the edge - but at what cost ?

We have withdrawn our Aircraft Carriers, Battleships, Etc., Marines came home,
but if this blows up into an open conflict the actions of Syria, Jordan, Palestinian Authority,
and the Israeli activities may severly over-extend what we can control in the region.
50-50 chance of being an Armageddon-like situation.

 

[KAMAZON]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
And it might not be a bad thing

But then - it might be a tinderbox that could explode into a widespread Civil War.
With our presence in Iraq we might be able to nude it over the edge - but at what cost ?

We have withdrawn our Aircraft Carriers, Battleships, Etc., Marines came home,
but if this blows up into an open conflict the actions of Syria, Jordan, Palestinian Authority,
and the Israeli activities may severly over-extend what we can control in the region.
50-50 chance of being an Armageddon-like situation.

It's over 50-50 for armageddon. bush must make peace, not war now.

 

[syzygy]

We have withdrawn our Aircraft Carriers, Battleships, Etc., Marines came home,
but if this blows up into an open conflict the actions of Syria, Jordan, Palestinian Authority,
and the Israeli activities may severly over-extend what we can control in the region.
50-50 chance of being an Armageddon-like situation.

aaah lovely armaggedon, but only 50-50 ? thats not a brave wager. seems these same 'threats' are trotted out
like boilerplate whenever armaggedon is averted only to be rehashed again when armaggedon returns for
another one week stay.

wasn't the iraq invasion supposed to result in the absolution obliteration of all human, insect and vegetable kind ?

 

[KAMAZON]

Originally posted by: syzygy

We have withdrawn our Aircraft Carriers, Battleships, Etc., Marines came home,
but if this blows up into an open conflict the actions of Syria, Jordan, Palestinian Authority,
and the Israeli activities may severly over-extend what we can control in the region.
50-50 chance of being an Armageddon-like situation.

wasn't the iraq invasion supposed to result in the absolution obliteration of all human, insect and vegetable kind ?

I'm not comparing your character to Hitler, but what I am going to say is that this is almost EXACTLY what Adolf Hitler told his top Generals who told him "IF we invade Checkesolvokia (SP?), Germany will be finished, we will be doomed". After he invaded, Hitler gloated to them using the same line you did here...but, seeing how real history works which isnt like a video game, Germany was in fact distroyed. They too, were going to invade Poland and the Chek, to protect themselves from their 'threat'.

 

[syzygy]

I'm not comparing your character to Hitler, but what I am going to say is that this is almost EXACTLY what Adolf Hitler told his top Generals who told him "IF we invade Checkesolvokia (SP?), Germany will be finished, we will be doomed". After he invaded, Hitler gloated to them using the same line you did here...but, seeing how real history works which isnt like a video game, Germany was in fact distroyed. They too, were going to invade Poland and the Chek, to protect themselves from their 'threa

uh, are you drawing an analogy between nazi germany and dubya's america ? i'm not sure.

what I am going to say is that this is almost EXACTLY what Adolf Hitler told his top Generals who told him "IF we invade Checkesolvokia (SP?), Germany will be finished, we will be doomed

was it hitler telling his generals or his generals telling hitler ? either way, most of those generals and, ofcourse, hitler himself, were murderous
psychopaths who were doomed to self-destruction the instant they ascended the throne. hitler applied mein kampf (sp?) nearly verbatim.

 

[CaptnKirk]

50 - 50, for what it's worth

 

[KAMAZON]

The only point I was making was that Hitler too was warned by his Generals he will have 'grave consequences' and 'Germany would be ruined' if they attack Czechkoslovokia. when Germany conquered the Sudatenland and Czechkoslovokia (SP?), hitler said SEE! I TOLD YOU, YOU SAID IT WOUld BE A DISASTER! WHAT HAPPENED?? HMM?? Well it's just like todays Rumsfeld ordering the Generals who know more about fighting than he does that it will be a 'cakewalk' and the Generals plus the Joint chief of staff were against the war. NO DUH America has millitary kill power superiority. That is not how you win a war, but how you start it. The Iraq gurilla/revolutionairy war has just started. We have NO WAY TO rebuild Iraq right now. If we did, we would rebuild NY or LA, which we aren' tdoing. This imperial war has just started.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: KAMAZON
The only point I was making was that Hitler too was warned by his Generals he will have 'grave consequences' and 'Germany would be ruined' if they attack Czechkoslovokia. when Germany conquered the Sudatenland and Czechkoslovokia (SP?), hitler said SEE! I TOLD YOU, YOU SAID IT WOUld BE A DISASTER! WHAT HAPPENED?? HMM?? Well it's just like todays Rumsfeld ordering the Generals who know more about fighting than he does that it will be a 'cakewalk' and the Generals plus the Joint chief of staff were against the war. NO DUH America has millitary kill power superiority. That is not how you win a war, but how you start it. The Iraq gurilla/revolutionairy war has just started. We have NO WAY TO rebuild Iraq right now. If we did, we would rebuild NY or LA, which we aren' tdoing. This imperial war has just started.

Iraq was just the first volley for the neocons. They seek American superiority over allies and enemies. Just read Wolfowitz' 1992 Defence Planning Guidance, if you can find it in its entirety.

You can read excerpts form it here.

Check out the links on this page. This is PBS! I suppose they aren't a reliable source for all the Rush listeners on this forum LMFAO

Check out The War Behind Closed Doors, or The Long Road to War.

I don't know how much plainer it can be spelled out. The axis of evil should be updated to include its leader - the USA under Bush.

 

[BOBDN]

Oh, and check out this quote from a "senior Bush administration official" that was printed in NEWSWEEK.

"Everyone wants to go to Baghdad. Real men want to go to Tehran."

As if any of these chickenhawks would know what a real man is.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Umm, that says senior British official.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Umm, that says senior British official.

Don't worry - he works for the NY Times so he's close enough

CkG

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Umm, that says senior British official.

Don't worry - he works for the NY Times so he's close enough

CkG

Confucius say...Man who leap off cliff, jumps to conclusion.

 

[Moonbeam]

Confucius say...Man who leap off cliff, jumps to conclusion.
-------------
Amen to that.

 

[XMan]

What's all this 50-50, 75-25 crap.

It either happens, or it doesn't. Everything is 50-50.

 

[Moonbeam]

Geez, x-man they are talking the percentages of something happening, not the percentages of the options.

 

[Alistar7]

expected this, mentioned it many times, just didnt expect it so fast. The US is playing games there too, payback for flooding islamic fundamentalists into Iraq, right back at ya baby.


Damn brits and Russians, have a look at some of Iran's past, look where someone hid out until the "revolution" in 79'

"In January, an article in an Iranian newspaper smears Khomeini, leading to the outbreak of violent demonstrations in Qom. The unrest spreads throughout the country. In September, in what is known now as Black Friday, government troops fire on demonstrators. Martial law is declared.

Baghdad, under pressure from Tehran, forces Khomeini to leave, and he settles in Paris where he establishes an opposition movement in exile. The Islamic Revolutionary Council, an underground assembly, is formed in Iran at Khomeini's behest."


Once again the French acting in the interests of the Arab people and the world at large, but as usual it is always the fault of the US. Thanks again to the russians for helping Iran go nuclear, wonderfull idea. What the F is wrong with the EU????

 

[CaptnKirk]

The politics and policies of the 70 do not necessacarily apply 20+ years later.
Russia helped Iran prior to the fall of the Soviet Union.
We had no bone to pick with Islamic Fundamentalisn and Iran in the early 70's,
only after the Islamic Revolution against the Shah during Carter's Administration
did we take them seriously.

Al-7: Where you been ? You missed some fun !

 

[Nitemare]

bout time...

Khameini needs to get to steppin

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The politics and policies of the 70 do not necessacarily apply 20+ years later.
Russia helped Iran prior to the fall of the Soviet Union.
We had no bone to pick with Islamic Fundamentalisn and Iran in the early 70's,
only after the Islamic Revolution against the Shah during Carter's Administration
did we take them seriously.

Al-7: Where you been ? You missed some fun !

life.... thanks for noticing though, missed you guys too

 

[LeadMagnet]

KaptianKirk - "we might be able to nude it over the edge"

Finally something of interest to everyone !

 

[CaptnKirk]

Damn ! - The 'g' evaporated !

Nudge Vs. Nude, It's those Islamics - They put the 'Fun' in 'Fundamental'.

 

[Alistar7]

How can we have a war on terror if we dont go after Iran anyway, isnt it the modern birthplace of anti-western terrorism? We should promise everyone under 25 (more than half their population) free SUVs if they revolt........

 

[Alistar7]

Rioters seek death of Tehran leader

June 14 2003
By Ali Akbar Dareini
Tehran

Hundreds of protesters called for the death of Iran's Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as thousands of onlookers watched early yesterday, the third day of demonstrations in the capital despite threats by the hardline regime to crack down on the disturbances.

The three nights of demonstrations, involving hundreds of young Iranians, have produced the largest outpouring of public opposition against Iran's leadership in months.

They shouted chants including, "Khamenei the traitor must be hanged", "guns and tanks and fireworks, the mullahs must be killed" and "student prisoners must be freed", witnesses said.

Analysts say the protests reflect widespread frustration in Iran, where about 70 per cent of the 65 million population is under 30 and has little or no memory of the 1979 Islamic revolution led by the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.



nah nah nah nah. nah nah nah nah. hey hey hey, goodbye...........

 

[mastertech01]

Maybe they just prefer doing their own regime change, rather than have someone else do it for them. That would be the preferrred method even we would support I believe.

 

[ConclamoLudus]

Isn't there two or three armageddons every year. I've been told once a month since birth from one source or another that the world is going to end soon. Apocalypse anyone?