Iran & Iraq . . .

CaptnKirk

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<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/?NewsCode=42469&NewsKind=Current+Affairs">Iraq leads with Turkish Pawn . . . Iran Knight takes Pawn, claims 'Check' -
Iraq claims 'KIng-X', but now it's our move . . . </a>

Just a game, just a game . . a deadly game.


 

lozina

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An interesting "triangle of love" we got there!

I never thought Iran and Turkey cooperated on anything... seeing as how Turkey is so pro-USA
 

Specop 007

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Iran needs to realize they too are nothing more then a pawn.
Well, maybe a rook. ;)

None the less, the major players here are the worlds super powers. Where it used to be wars were fought through other pawns its now gearing up into a very real possibility of a direct confrontation between the major players on the field.

As the Chinese say......May you live in interesting times. :)



Iran says Russia and China will not back sanctions

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's foreign minister was quoted on Tuesday as saying that Russia and China had officially informed Tehran they would not support sanctions or military action over the Islamic Republic's nuclear program.

U.N. ambassadors from the United States, Britain and France are expected to introduce a resolution this week to legally oblige Iran to comply with U.N. Security Council demands it halt all uranium enrichment work.

When asked how far Russia and China, veto-wielding permanent members of the council, would support Washington, Manouchehr Mottaki told the Kayhan newspaper:

"The thing these two countries have officially told us and expressed in diplomatic negotiations is their opposition to sanctions and military attacks."

"At the current juncture, I personally believe no sanctions or anything like that will be on the agenda of the Security Council," he said in the interview.

Western diplomats say China and Russia will probably back a U.N. resolution demanding a halt to Iran's fuel work, but are not yet ready to back moves toward sanctions.

Iran has been hauled before the U.N. Security Council after failing to convince the international community that its nuclear power station program is not a front for building an atom bomb.

China and Russia both have big energy interests in Iran, the world's fourth biggest oil exporter. In 2005, more than 11 percent of China's crude imports came from Iran. Russia's LUKOIL is exploring the Anaran oilfield in western Iran.

China is also planning a multi-billion-dollar deal to buy Iranian Liquefied Natural Gas when it comes onstream in return for an upstream stake in a huge southern Iranian oilfield.

Russia has been helping Iran build its first nuclear power station at the southern port of Bushehr, a $1 billion project, and Tehran has said it is keen for foreign firms, particularly Russian, to play a role in building more reactors.

However, both China and Russia also have strong trade ties with the United States and European Union whose positions on Iran are becoming increasingly united.
 

Lemon law

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The Kurdish question is just another flashpoint the neo-cons ignored when they invaded Iraq in 2003--expecting to be greeted
with flowers and candy--when that failed---they have yet to come up with a good plan B.

The Kurds, somewhat like the Iraqi Shia, have been getting the short end of the stick for a very long time. The Kurds were brutally surpressed by Attaturk---betrayed by the British after Lawrence of Arabia promised them the moon and the stars
for helping win WWI in that part of the world--and have been pretty well screwed ever since. Until Bush the first came along and established the Northern no fly zone---and since then the Kurds are doing very well--and will not go quietly back to being a surpressed minority in a greater Iraq.--especially since they are sitting on top of all the oil wealth.---oil wealth everyone covets. Worse yet, Turkey has a substantial Kurdish population its somewhat supressing--and to a lesser extent so does Iran.
Both nations justly fear that they may lose population and terroritory to a Kurdish State--should one be set up

Right now, its my understanding is that the Kurds themselves are deeply divided---with some older and more prudent leaders
advocating some diplomatic solution is possible--trying to sell the this time we won't get screwed--while the younger ones advocating setting up their own Kurdish State. Meaningwhile various Kurdish milita's actually go rougue and are using terrorist tactics--a constant annoyance but by no means anyone's idea of a long term solution.

As long as there is still bickering in Bagdad--about the future shape of the first real Iraqi government---The Kurds can delay deciding that crucial question--to be part of a greater Iraq---or to boldly strike out on their own.--now that a three month stalemate has been broken and progress is being made--the day fast approaches where the Kurds will have to make that binary decision--to stay--or bodly strike out on their own--but if the latter decision is made---the Kurds better get some heavy weapons very fast.---I have no doubt plan have already been made along those lines.--but they would have to bear fruit fast.

But ignore all that speculation-----we were going to be greeted by flowers and Candy--someday soon the Iraqis will find the correct script. --once they find it they will give to Iran--they will then play along with Uncle Sam--China won't act in its own self interests---if you don't believe me--just ask any of the neo-cons who started this present war--its going to work out just great------when everyone starts reading their scripts and following directions.-----if it works out for the yes men in the white house--it should work anywhere.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Just a game, just a game . . a deadly game.
Want me to tell you how it ends? We get pissed off and rip the whole board up scattering the pieces, then spend huge amounts of time&money trying to clean-up the mess we've made :p

 

DealMonkey

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I always suspected the unintended consquences of our (idiotic) decision to go into Iraq would be total civil war. I never suspected a new Iran-Iraq war. Bravo! :|
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Just a game, just a game . . a deadly game.
Want me to tell you how it ends? We get pissed off and rip the whole board up scattering the pieces, then spend huge amounts of time&money trying to clean-up the mess we've made :p


Checkmate !

And the looser has to jump over the board - and assassinate the winner.