Iran funding terrorist resistence in Iraq

raildogg

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Saddam henchman: Iran funding resistance
Head of 'Army of Muhammad' talks of help from Tehran, Syria

Posted: January 18, 2005
5:00 p.m. Eastern

The man who led Saddam Hussein's "Army of Muhammad" during 2004 has confessed that Iran is the primary source of funding for his jihadists battling U.S. forces in Iraq.

Col. Muayed Al-Nasseri made the comments on a taped interrogation that was broadcast on an Iraqi television station operating from the United Arab Emirates, Al-Fayhaa TV. The tape was translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI-TV. A video clip of the interrogation is available on MEMRI's website.

Al-Nasseri says the Army of Muhammad was founded by Saddam Hussein after the fall of his regime in April 2003. He claims he is the third commander of the 800-man operation.

"We carried out many armed operations against the coalition forces in all the districts," Al-Nasseri says on the tape. "The operations included bombarding their military posts, their camps and their bases, fighting these forces and planting explosive devices against their patrols and convoys."

He says after the fall of the regime, Hussein put out the word for loyalists to join the Army of Muhammad.

"Saddam Hussein distributed a communique via the [Baath Party], back then, instructing all his supporters or whoever wants to fight the jihad for the sake of Allah to join the Army of Muhammad because it is the army of the leadership," Al-Nasseri said.

The suspect then fingers Iran as the main funding source of the resistance.

"Many factions of the resistance are receiving aid from the neighboring countries," Al-Nasseri said. "We in the Army of Muhammad ? the fighting has been going on for almost two years now, and there must be aid, and this aid came from the neighboring countries. We got aid primarily from Iran. The truth is that Iran has played a significant role in supporting the Army of Muhammad and many factions of the resistance. I have some units, especially in southern Iraq, which receive Iranian aid in the form of arms and equipment."

He says another resistance group actually traveled to Iran to pick up arms and cash and to meet with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei:

"As for other factions of the resistance, I have reliable information regarding the National Islamic resistance, which is one of the factions of resistance, led by Colonel 'Asi Al Hadithi. He sent a delegation to Iran from among the people of the faction, including General Halaf and General Khdayyer. They were sent to Iran in April or May and met with Iranian intelligence and with a number of Iranian leaders and even with Khamenei."

Al-Nasseri says they picked up "$1 million dollars and two cars full of weapons. They still have a very close relationship with Iran. They receive money, cars, weapons and many things. According to my information, they even got car bombs."

The suspect then talks about links to Syria.

"Cooperation with Syria began in October 2003," he said, "when a Syrian intelligence officer contacted me. S'ad Hamad Hisham and later Saddam Hussein himself authorized me to go to Syria. So I was sent to Syria. I crossed the border illegally. Then I went to Damascus and met with an intelligence officer, Lieutenant-Colonel 'Abu Naji', through a mediator called 'Abu Saud.'"

On the videotape, Al-Nasseri says the Syrian government authorized him to meet with a Baath Party member, Fawzi Al-Rawi, "who is a member of the national leadership and an important figure in Syria."

Al-Nasseri says Al-Rawi informed him that "the Army of Muhammad would receive material aid in the form of goods, given to us for free or for a very low price, for us to sell in Iraq, in order to support the Army of Muhammad. This was done this way due to Syria's current circumstances, international pressure and accusations of supporting the terrorism and resistance in Iraq."

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rickn

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That's not really that surprising. the Iranians don't like Americans in the region, and Iraq has been hostile towards Iran for many decades. It is in their interest as a neighboring country to see a government that is pro-Iranian, and as much as the Americans may not like, we don't have to live next to Iraq.
 

raildogg

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I think this is huge news. Many people had some idea about Iran supporting terrorists inside Iraq, but never to this extent.
 

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*Yawn*

Col. Muayed Al-Nasseri made the comments on a taped interrogation that was broadcast on an Iraqi television station operating from the United Arab Emirates, Al-Fayhaa TV.

When are people going to learn, statements from interrogations really don't mean jack. Case in point: Korean War 1950's. Americans pilots captured by the interrogated by the enemy confessed to dropping agents of biological warfare on Korean populations. DO you believe in that too? It's not "huge news" until there is actual evidence supporting this claim, until then it's just another prisoner or exile who either has a political agenda or is saying just what the interrogators want ot hear to get them off his back
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
I think this is huge news. Many people had some idea about Iran supporting terrorists inside Iraq, but never to this extent.

Many countries feel threatened by the US. Since direct confrontation is impossible, funding groups that would cause the US headaches is not suprising. We did it in South America, and just about every country has as well.

Not saying it's right, but whenever a power extends itself into new territory, this tactic is pretty much a given.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.
 

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: raildogg
I think this is huge news. Many people had some idea about Iran supporting terrorists inside Iraq, but never to this extent.

Many countries feel threatened by the US. Since direct confrontation is impossible, funding groups that would cause the US headaches is not suprising. We did it in South America, and just about every country has as well.

Not saying it's right, but whenever a power extends itself into new territory, this tactic is pretty much a given.

to most people in that region, & the world for that matter, we have no legitimate reason or claim to anything in Iraq, therefore that makes americans targets. the solution to stop american soldiers from getting killed is to get us the hell out of iraq as soon as possible. We will never be able to pacify those people.
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

But in the eyes of the Iranians, and most Iraqis by this point, we're the terrorists. We invaded Iraq. They didn't invade us. They did nothing to us yet we attacked them.

As far as Iran, if it's true I'm not surprised one bit. We supplied Saddam with all manner of weapons to use against Iran. This would fall under the category of payback.

Just as in Vietnam, the worst case scenario is U.S. forces mired in a war against a guerilla insurgency secretly supported by an enemy with a grudge.

For what possible reason did we ever let ourselves get into a mess like that again?

 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

But in the eyes of the Iranians, and most Iraqis by this point, we're the terrorists. We invaded Iraq. They didn't invade us. They did nothing to us yet we attacked them.

As far as Iran, if it's true I'm not surprised one bit. We supplied Saddam with all manner of weapons to use against Iran. This would fall under the category of payback.

Just as in Vietnam, the worst case scenario is U.S. forces mired in a war against a guerilla insurgency secretly supported by an enemy with a grudge.

For what possible reason did we ever let ourselves get into a mess like that again?

Most if not all of Saddam's weapons were Soviet, even against Iran.

This is not the first time Iran is supporting terrorism against us, they have been doing it for two decades.

"They did nothing to us".

are you forgetting khobar towers? what about the attack in 1983 that killed hundreds of marines, was carried out by hezboullah, a group totally funded and supported by Iran.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

But in the eyes of the Iranians, and most Iraqis by this point, we're the terrorists. We invaded Iraq. They didn't invade us. They did nothing to us yet we attacked them.

As far as Iran, if it's true I'm not surprised one bit. We supplied Saddam with all manner of weapons to use against Iran. This would fall under the category of payback.

Just as in Vietnam, the worst case scenario is U.S. forces mired in a war against a guerilla insurgency secretly supported by an enemy with a grudge.

For what possible reason did we ever let ourselves get into a mess like that again?

Most if not all of Saddam's weapons were Soviet, even against Iran.

This is not the first time Iran is supporting terrorism against us, they have been doing it for two decades.

"They did nothing to us".

are you forgetting khobar towers? what about the attack in 1983 that killed hundreds of marines, was carried out by hezboullah, a group totally funded and supported by Iran.


Iran is always up to no good when it comes to Americans and Israel in the ME. They will be dealt with in due time.
 

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Hrmm could be why that recent report came out about us having commandos in Iran.It's not like the US doesn't exactly know whats happening either we have been complaining about Syria and Iran for sometime but I never anticipated to this extent.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

But in the eyes of the Iranians, and most Iraqis by this point, we're the terrorists. We invaded Iraq. They didn't invade us. They did nothing to us yet we attacked them.

As far as Iran, if it's true I'm not surprised one bit. We supplied Saddam with all manner of weapons to use against Iran. This would fall under the category of payback.

Just as in Vietnam, the worst case scenario is U.S. forces mired in a war against a guerilla insurgency secretly supported by an enemy with a grudge.

For what possible reason did we ever let ourselves get into a mess like that again?

Most if not all of Saddam's weapons were Soviet, even against Iran.

This is not the first time Iran is supporting terrorism against us, they have been doing it for two decades.

"They did nothing to us".

are you forgetting khobar towers? what about the attack in 1983 that killed hundreds of marines, was carried out by hezboullah, a group totally funded and supported by Iran.


Iran is always up to no good when it comes to Americans and Israel in the ME. They will be dealt with in due time.

We agree on that :cool:
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: raildogg
Most if not all of Saddam's weapons were Soviet, even against Iran.

This is not the first time Iran is supporting terrorism against us, they have been doing it for two decades.

"They did nothing to us".

are you forgetting khobar towers? what about the attack in 1983 that killed hundreds of marines, was carried out by hezboullah, a group totally funded and supported by Iran.
Iran is always up to no good when it comes to Americans and Israel in the ME. They will be dealt with in due time.
We agree on that :cool:
Iran has been on the brink of collapse and democratic reform for years. Better to leave it to happen on its own and not risk a 70s-style backlash. Besides, there's no troop capacity for this anytime soon.

Iraq was quite a different case altogether; it was never going to fall internally. I guess that's a digression that's not on topic for now though.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: raildogg
Most if not all of Saddam's weapons were Soviet, even against Iran.

This is not the first time Iran is supporting terrorism against us, they have been doing it for two decades.

"They did nothing to us".

are you forgetting khobar towers? what about the attack in 1983 that killed hundreds of marines, was carried out by hezboullah, a group totally funded and supported by Iran.
Iran is always up to no good when it comes to Americans and Israel in the ME. They will be dealt with in due time.
We agree on that :cool:
Iran has been on the brink of collapse and democratic reform for years. Better to leave it to happen on its own and not risk a 70s-style backlash. Besides, there's no troop capacity for this anytime soon.

Iraq was quite a different case altogether; it was never going to fall internally. I guess that's a digression that's not on topic for now though.

unless Iran goes nuclear, than all assumptions are off. The military in Iran is very loyal to the mullahs, afterall they enjoy many of the same privaledges, a nuclear capability will only stack the deck in their favor

 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

America has been by far the largest trainer and sponser of terrorism in the last 25+ years. So lets run around equating washington with terrorists :roll:
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: yllus

Iran has been on the brink of collapse and democratic reform for years. Better to leave it to happen on its own and not risk a 70s-style backlash. Besides, there's no troop capacity for this anytime soon.

:thumbsup:

A better strategy would be to open up the regime, similar to glastnost and perestroka in the USSR.
 

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

America has been by far the largest trainer and sponser of terrorism in the last 25+ years. So lets run around equating washington with terrorists :roll:

...they don't sponser any terrorism. Our actions might piss people off and make them want to kill us, but we don't sponser them. If we can get HARD proof Iran is helping the insurgency in Iraq...I think it's time to do something about it. I don't know what, but we can't let that happen.
 

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Point of edification. My comment, "they never did anything to us" was in reference to Iraq.

But in the eyes of the Iranians, and most Iraqis by this point, we're the terrorists. We invaded Iraq. They didn't invade us. They did nothing to us yet we attacked them.


 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

America has been by far the largest trainer and sponser of terrorism in the last 25+ years. So lets run around equating washington with terrorists :roll:

...they don't sponser any terrorism. Our actions might piss people off and make them want to kill us, but we don't sponser them. If we can get HARD proof Iran is helping the insurgency in Iraq...I think it's time to do something about it. I don't know what, but we can't let that happen.

So we didn't sponser the contras?

We didn't sponser Bin Laden in Afghanistan?

We didn't run The worlds largest terrorist trainng center.? TextText
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

America has been by far the largest trainer and sponser of terrorism in the last 25+ years. So lets run around equating washington with terrorists :roll:

There you go.

Further proof that these forums are full of angry America haters. These people would rather see the enemy win rather than see anything America does succeed. This is really astonishing.
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Isn't this to be expected?

I agree, but there are many people out there denying the fact that Iran is supporting terror against US in Iraq and elsewhere. Iran might be our main enemy at the moment, along with terrorism. Well to be honest, since Iran is the major funder of terrorism worldwide, there is no difference between the two.

America has been by far the largest trainer and sponser of terrorism in the last 25+ years. So lets run around equating washington with terrorists :roll:

There you go.

Further proof that these forums are full of angry America haters. These people would rather see the enemy win rather than see anything America does succeed. This is really astonishing.

Yea I can't believe it myself my parents fled Cuba to the US for the better yet ppl seem to make the US worst than others.I don't know why this happens this country is the greatest it is my homeland and the country I love I don't need Cuba I got the USA.I consider myself American before Cuban-American this country is the best and my younger brother joined the Marines to support it.
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
There you go.

Further proof that these forums are full of angry America haters. These people would rather see the enemy win rather than see anything America does succeed. This is really astonishing.

Not surprising that when someone decides to actually be accurate and honest about the recent history of the USA, you declare them to be "America haters."

IMHO, those who really hate America are the ones blind to its flaws, who think it's a perfect country, and who declare anyone who criticizes it to be traitorous in their intent. That's the height of anti-democracy and approaching the same kind of sick, twisted nationalism that let the Nazis take power in Germany.

Admitting the truth about Iran-Contra, or about how we helped Bin Laden in Afghanistan against the Soviets does not equate to hating America. It equates to being honest about history, so that maybe we can keep people like you from making these mistakes in the future!
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg

There you go.

Further proof that these forums are full of angry America haters. These people would rather see the enemy win rather than see anything America does succeed. This is really astonishing.

I don't think you have a clue about loving your country.