Iran embargos Denmark

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Frackal
Aimster as an Iranian, what do you think should be done about the Iranian nuclear situation?

Iran has a right to nuclear technology, but Iran shouldn't get nuclear weapons with the current Iranian regime.

Every Iranian I know, even the Iranians who are religious who wear headscarfs will tell you that the Iranian regime is horrible and has destroyed Iran. I don't know one Iranian who supports the current regime.

I think the U.S should attack Iranian nuclear sites. The last thing I want is some crazy mullah launching a nuclear weapon at Israel and then reading about Tehran being nuked as a result.

Better to take out Iran's nuclear capabilities and deal with the small losses than to lose millions because some crazy mullah believes God is with him on his hate.

Yes but what if Iran already has nukes and deploys them against Tel Aviv as soon as the US starts dropping bombs?

I don't think it's a simple solution, and there's no way Iran will fall as easily as Iraq or Afghanistan did.

I've always wondered why they can't just send in some assassins with serious air support and just take out their government.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab
From your own article...

Several hundred angry Iranians hurled stones and fire bombs and were forced back by police with tear gas.

Your article has absolutely nothing to do with Iran's atomic issuse. The issuse over the cartoons is stupid, if you make fun of an already high tempered people - what the hell do you think they're going to do? Sit there and take it?

THESE ARE THE LEADERS DOING THIS, not the people. If Iran puts an embargo on you because they don't like a cartoon run in a newspaper based in your country, imagine what they'd do when they're really angry -- and have nukes in their possession.

Imagine what the United States, Great Britian, France, Germany, Russia, China or even North Korea would if they got really angry at another country...

They blocked trade with a country that barley even trades with them at all and insulted pratically the entire muslim community who are already stressed out. Who cares?

Iran needs to be dealt with ASAP. Their leaders are absolutely insane. Their people are brainwashed into hating Americans. They are a much bigger threat than Iraq ever was. I hope they're next on the agenda. Bin Laden is already wavering. With Iran knocked out, only Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are left as major terrorist strongholds. It sounds daunting, and it is. The scary thing is that this type of alignment parallels the fall of the Roman Empire. The Arabs brought down the Romans, and the same could happen here. Scary stuff.

Their people don't hate America. Their people hate Bush. They'll fit in perfectly with the P&N crowd.

They hate America. I went to school with an Iranian national and she HATED the US. She went on and on saying things like "How can the US tell us how to use nukes when they are the only nation to deply nuclear weapons against human beings?". She was a propaganda MACHINE. I work with an Iraqi woman, and she too hates the Americans. They never mention Bush, always America.

So you are suggesting people in Iran hate the U.S because some Iranian national in your class said she hated the U.S? I can bring up a handful of people on this board alone who are constantly putting down the U.S and the way the U.S operates. Does that mean they hate the U.S?

What was the only country in the M.E where the people actually went out on the streets with candlelights after the 9/11 attacks? Iran.

There are millions of Iranians and you are basing what goes on inside Iran because of some Iranian "national" in your class in Canada.

Makes no sense.

It makes just as much sense as your stating that they hate Bush, not America.

I've had a few people give me first-hand accounts as to what goes on inside Iran. It ain't pretty. One guy I knew had his jaw shattered and he can barely speak now. He witnessed horrific tortures. The women I've spoken to talk about the totalitarian regime and how they had no rights over there.

That said, they have all expressed a disdain for America. Not Bush, America. Much of what they resent predates Dubya.

I'd put more creedence in someone looking me in the eye and telling me something like that than in CNN any day of the week.

Are you trying to tell me that the people of Iran somehow love America? Where are you getting this information?

Maybe because I am Iranian and every Iranian in the U.S will tell you that Iranians in Iran love the U.S.

They all want to come to the U.S. It is their dream.

What rights are women missing other than the fact that they have to wear a head scarf? I don't know of one Iranian woman who nags because they have to wear a head scarf when they visit Iran. They do it and they have fun and return again the next summer.

Go read the Foxnews.com report on Inside Iran.

An American woman journalist happens to stumble across a govt. street protest where they are burning the U.S Flag. When the people who are part of that rally (The most religious fanatical wacko jobs one can ever find in Iran) asked her where she was from she said she is American. They didn't spit in her face. They welcomed her and told her they don't hate America and that they hate Bush.

People in the Middle East want to come to the US/Canada/wherever to escape war. I don't think it has much to do with "love"; immigration is all about selfishness and survival, along with propegating a stagnant foreign population (there's always a catch).

Just because you and some woman claim that people in Iran hate Bush, not America, I still don't believe you. I have been told otherwise. Did the Iranians not take issue with the first Gulf War? What about the Ayatolla (sp)? The US helped put that insane regime in power in the first place! But according to you, they just hate Bush. Riiiight. :roll:

My parents and almost every Iranian in the U.S came to the U.S during the Shah regime to get an education. What war were they escaping?

Ayatollah Khomeini promised a democracy. The minute he gained power he switched his words around and then Iraq attacked. When Iran was under attack by the invading Arabs I highly doubt anyone cared about who was running the country. All the focus was on getting the Arabs out of Iran.

70% of Iran's population is under the age of 25.
Which means they are way too young to remember anything that happened. Which means they do not care.

Like I said if Iranians hated the U.S so much they wouldn't go to the streets with candlelights the day after 9/11. They would be dancing in the streets.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab
From your own article...

Several hundred angry Iranians hurled stones and fire bombs and were forced back by police with tear gas.

Your article has absolutely nothing to do with Iran's atomic issuse. The issuse over the cartoons is stupid, if you make fun of an already high tempered people - what the hell do you think they're going to do? Sit there and take it?

THESE ARE THE LEADERS DOING THIS, not the people. If Iran puts an embargo on you because they don't like a cartoon run in a newspaper based in your country, imagine what they'd do when they're really angry -- and have nukes in their possession.

Imagine what the United States, Great Britian, France, Germany, Russia, China or even North Korea would if they got really angry at another country...

They blocked trade with a country that barley even trades with them at all and insulted pratically the entire muslim community who are already stressed out. Who cares?

Iran needs to be dealt with ASAP. Their leaders are absolutely insane. Their people are brainwashed into hating Americans. They are a much bigger threat than Iraq ever was. I hope they're next on the agenda. Bin Laden is already wavering. With Iran knocked out, only Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are left as major terrorist strongholds. It sounds daunting, and it is. The scary thing is that this type of alignment parallels the fall of the Roman Empire. The Arabs brought down the Romans, and the same could happen here. Scary stuff.

Do you even know a a single Iranian? The younger generation is absolutely, obbessed with American Culture and our way life. Calling their leaders "insane" or having George Bush publicy state that "Iran" is part of the "Axis of Evil - is just an execellent way to end diplomatic relations with Iran.

A war with Iran would be cruel and disgusting - we'd actually be fighting a real army with a country that has an extremely self-sufficent fighting force and spends an enormous amount of money on it's missle program.

By the way, history doesn't repeat itself - but historians do.

Wow. An Iranian expert speaketh!

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Frackal
Aimster as an Iranian, what do you think should be done about the Iranian nuclear situation?

Iran has a right to nuclear technology, but Iran shouldn't get nuclear weapons with the current Iranian regime.

Every Iranian I know, even the Iranians who are religious who wear headscarfs will tell you that the Iranian regime is horrible and has destroyed Iran. I don't know one Iranian who supports the current regime.

I think the U.S should attack Iranian nuclear sites. The last thing I want is some crazy mullah launching a nuclear weapon at Israel and then reading about Tehran being nuked as a result.

Better to take out Iran's nuclear capabilities and deal with the small losses than to lose millions because some crazy mullah believes God is with him on his hate.

Yes but what if Iran already has nukes and deploys them against Tel Aviv as soon as the US starts dropping bombs?

I don't think it's a simple solution, and there's no way Iran will fall as easily as Iraq or Afghanistan did.

I've always wondered why they can't just send in some assassins with serious air support and just take out their government.

Iran doesn't have any nuclear weapons. They will in the future if nothing is done about it.

It's not easy knocking out a government by air strikes. It'll look more like an attack on the country. If it appears like an attack on the country, the regime will only get stronger instead of weaker. The same thing happened right after the revolution when the Arabs started bombing Iran.
Imagine if bombs started to fall on buildings in D.C.

There is no real leader to take out in Iran like in Iraq with Saddam Hussein. There are numerous people (way too many) that need to be killed and even then who knows what will happen.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab
From your own article...

Several hundred angry Iranians hurled stones and fire bombs and were forced back by police with tear gas.

Your article has absolutely nothing to do with Iran's atomic issuse. The issuse over the cartoons is stupid, if you make fun of an already high tempered people - what the hell do you think they're going to do? Sit there and take it?

THESE ARE THE LEADERS DOING THIS, not the people. If Iran puts an embargo on you because they don't like a cartoon run in a newspaper based in your country, imagine what they'd do when they're really angry -- and have nukes in their possession.

Imagine what the United States, Great Britian, France, Germany, Russia, China or even North Korea would if they got really angry at another country...

They blocked trade with a country that barley even trades with them at all and insulted pratically the entire muslim community who are already stressed out. Who cares?

Iran needs to be dealt with ASAP. Their leaders are absolutely insane. Their people are brainwashed into hating Americans. They are a much bigger threat than Iraq ever was. I hope they're next on the agenda. Bin Laden is already wavering. With Iran knocked out, only Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are left as major terrorist strongholds. It sounds daunting, and it is. The scary thing is that this type of alignment parallels the fall of the Roman Empire. The Arabs brought down the Romans, and the same could happen here. Scary stuff.

Their people don't hate America. Their people hate Bush. They'll fit in perfectly with the P&N crowd.

They hate America. I went to school with an Iranian national and she HATED the US. She went on and on saying things like "How can the US tell us how to use nukes when they are the only nation to deply nuclear weapons against human beings?". She was a propaganda MACHINE. I work with an Iraqi woman, and she too hates the Americans. They never mention Bush, always America.

So you are suggesting people in Iran hate the U.S because some Iranian national in your class said she hated the U.S? I can bring up a handful of people on this board alone who are constantly putting down the U.S and the way the U.S operates. Does that mean they hate the U.S?

What was the only country in the M.E where the people actually went out on the streets with candlelights after the 9/11 attacks? Iran.

There are millions of Iranians and you are basing what goes on inside Iran because of some Iranian "national" in your class in Canada.

Makes no sense.

It makes just as much sense as your stating that they hate Bush, not America.

I've had a few people give me first-hand accounts as to what goes on inside Iran. It ain't pretty. One guy I knew had his jaw shattered and he can barely speak now. He witnessed horrific tortures. The women I've spoken to talk about the totalitarian regime and how they had no rights over there.

That said, they have all expressed a disdain for America. Not Bush, America. Much of what they resent predates Dubya.

I'd put more creedence in someone looking me in the eye and telling me something like that than in CNN any day of the week.

Are you trying to tell me that the people of Iran somehow love America? Where are you getting this information?

Maybe because I am Iranian and every Iranian in the U.S will tell you that Iranians in Iran love the U.S.

They all want to come to the U.S. It is their dream.

What rights are women missing other than the fact that they have to wear a head scarf? I don't know of one Iranian woman who nags because they have to wear a head scarf when they visit Iran. They do it and they have fun and return again the next summer.

Go read the Foxnews.com report on Inside Iran.

An American woman journalist happens to stumble across a govt. street protest where they are burning the U.S Flag. When the people who are part of that rally (The most religious fanatical wacko jobs one can ever find in Iran) asked her where she was from she said she is American. They didn't spit in her face. They welcomed her and told her they don't hate America and that they hate Bush.

People in the Middle East want to come to the US/Canada/wherever to escape war. I don't think it has much to do with "love"; immigration is all about selfishness and survival, along with propegating a stagnant foreign population (there's always a catch).

Just because you and some woman claim that people in Iran hate Bush, not America, I still don't believe you. I have been told otherwise. Did the Iranians not take issue with the first Gulf War? What about the Ayatolla (sp)? The US helped put that insane regime in power in the first place! But according to you, they just hate Bush. Riiiight. :roll:

My parents and almost every Iranian in the U.S came to the U.S during the Shah regime to get an education. What war were they escaping?

Ayatollah Khomeini promised a democracy. The minute he gained power he switched his words around and then Iraq attacked. When Iran was under attack by the invading Arabs I highly doubt anyone cared about who was running the country. All the focus was on getting the Arabs out of Iran.

70% of Iran's population is under the age of 25.
Which means they are way too young to remember anything that happened. Which means they do not care.

Like I said if Iranians hated the U.S so much they wouldn't go to the streets with candlelights the day after 9/11. They would be dancing in the streets.

I went to school with one Iranian girl. Granted, she came here for an education.

That said, I've worked with two Iranian archtiects, both trained in Tehran, along with an Iraqi architect, trained in Baghdad.

Your generalizations don't fly with me. Perhaps we're dealing with different demographics seeing as I work in a large architecture firm and just about everyone is foreign trained and pretty much came here for what they thought would be more money.

BTW my friend is under 25 and she hates the US with a passion. She said that on 9-11 the US got what was coming to them. So much for candles.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab
From your own article...

Several hundred angry Iranians hurled stones and fire bombs and were forced back by police with tear gas.

Your article has absolutely nothing to do with Iran's atomic issuse. The issuse over the cartoons is stupid, if you make fun of an already high tempered people - what the hell do you think they're going to do? Sit there and take it?

THESE ARE THE LEADERS DOING THIS, not the people. If Iran puts an embargo on you because they don't like a cartoon run in a newspaper based in your country, imagine what they'd do when they're really angry -- and have nukes in their possession.

Imagine what the United States, Great Britian, France, Germany, Russia, China or even North Korea would if they got really angry at another country...

They blocked trade with a country that barley even trades with them at all and insulted pratically the entire muslim community who are already stressed out. Who cares?

Iran needs to be dealt with ASAP. Their leaders are absolutely insane. Their people are brainwashed into hating Americans. They are a much bigger threat than Iraq ever was. I hope they're next on the agenda. Bin Laden is already wavering. With Iran knocked out, only Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are left as major terrorist strongholds. It sounds daunting, and it is. The scary thing is that this type of alignment parallels the fall of the Roman Empire. The Arabs brought down the Romans, and the same could happen here. Scary stuff.

Their people don't hate America. Their people hate Bush. They'll fit in perfectly with the P&N crowd.

They hate America. I went to school with an Iranian national and she HATED the US. She went on and on saying things like "How can the US tell us how to use nukes when they are the only nation to deply nuclear weapons against human beings?". She was a propaganda MACHINE. I work with an Iraqi woman, and she too hates the Americans. They never mention Bush, always America.

So you are suggesting people in Iran hate the U.S because some Iranian national in your class said she hated the U.S? I can bring up a handful of people on this board alone who are constantly putting down the U.S and the way the U.S operates. Does that mean they hate the U.S?

What was the only country in the M.E where the people actually went out on the streets with candlelights after the 9/11 attacks? Iran.

There are millions of Iranians and you are basing what goes on inside Iran because of some Iranian "national" in your class in Canada.

Makes no sense.

It makes just as much sense as your stating that they hate Bush, not America.

I've had a few people give me first-hand accounts as to what goes on inside Iran. It ain't pretty. One guy I knew had his jaw shattered and he can barely speak now. He witnessed horrific tortures. The women I've spoken to talk about the totalitarian regime and how they had no rights over there.

That said, they have all expressed a disdain for America. Not Bush, America. Much of what they resent predates Dubya.

I'd put more creedence in someone looking me in the eye and telling me something like that than in CNN any day of the week.

Are you trying to tell me that the people of Iran somehow love America? Where are you getting this information?

Maybe because I am Iranian and every Iranian in the U.S will tell you that Iranians in Iran love the U.S.

They all want to come to the U.S. It is their dream.

What rights are women missing other than the fact that they have to wear a head scarf? I don't know of one Iranian woman who nags because they have to wear a head scarf when they visit Iran. They do it and they have fun and return again the next summer.

Go read the Foxnews.com report on Inside Iran.

An American woman journalist happens to stumble across a govt. street protest where they are burning the U.S Flag. When the people who are part of that rally (The most religious fanatical wacko jobs one can ever find in Iran) asked her where she was from she said she is American. They didn't spit in her face. They welcomed her and told her they don't hate America and that they hate Bush.

People in the Middle East want to come to the US/Canada/wherever to escape war. I don't think it has much to do with "love"; immigration is all about selfishness and survival, along with propegating a stagnant foreign population (there's always a catch).

Just because you and some woman claim that people in Iran hate Bush, not America, I still don't believe you. I have been told otherwise. Did the Iranians not take issue with the first Gulf War? What about the Ayatolla (sp)? The US helped put that insane regime in power in the first place! But according to you, they just hate Bush. Riiiight. :roll:

My parents and almost every Iranian in the U.S came to the U.S during the Shah regime to get an education. What war were they escaping?

Ayatollah Khomeini promised a democracy. The minute he gained power he switched his words around and then Iraq attacked. When Iran was under attack by the invading Arabs I highly doubt anyone cared about who was running the country. All the focus was on getting the Arabs out of Iran.

70% of Iran's population is under the age of 25.
Which means they are way too young to remember anything that happened. Which means they do not care.

Like I said if Iranians hated the U.S so much they wouldn't go to the streets with candlelights the day after 9/11. They would be dancing in the streets.

I went to school with one Iranian girl. Granted, she came here for an education.

That said, I've worked with two Iranian archtiects, both trained in Tehran, along with an Iraqi architect, trained in Baghdad.

Your generalizations don't fly with me. Perhaps we're dealing with different demographics seeing as I work in a large architecture firm and just about everyone is foreign trained and pretty much came here for what they thought would be more money.

BTW my friend is under 25 and she hates the US with a passion. She said that on 9-11 the US got what was coming to them. So much for candles.

Tell her the feeling is mutual. What reason she gave for hating America?

That we support Israel, that we're too powerful? That we support tyrants?

If so, then what separates us from the EU, who also support tyrants?

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab
From your own article...

Several hundred angry Iranians hurled stones and fire bombs and were forced back by police with tear gas.

Your article has absolutely nothing to do with Iran's atomic issuse. The issuse over the cartoons is stupid, if you make fun of an already high tempered people - what the hell do you think they're going to do? Sit there and take it?

THESE ARE THE LEADERS DOING THIS, not the people. If Iran puts an embargo on you because they don't like a cartoon run in a newspaper based in your country, imagine what they'd do when they're really angry -- and have nukes in their possession.

Imagine what the United States, Great Britian, France, Germany, Russia, China or even North Korea would if they got really angry at another country...

They blocked trade with a country that barley even trades with them at all and insulted pratically the entire muslim community who are already stressed out. Who cares?

Iran needs to be dealt with ASAP. Their leaders are absolutely insane. Their people are brainwashed into hating Americans. They are a much bigger threat than Iraq ever was. I hope they're next on the agenda. Bin Laden is already wavering. With Iran knocked out, only Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are left as major terrorist strongholds. It sounds daunting, and it is. The scary thing is that this type of alignment parallels the fall of the Roman Empire. The Arabs brought down the Romans, and the same could happen here. Scary stuff.

Their people don't hate America. Their people hate Bush. They'll fit in perfectly with the P&N crowd.

They hate America. I went to school with an Iranian national and she HATED the US. She went on and on saying things like "How can the US tell us how to use nukes when they are the only nation to deply nuclear weapons against human beings?". She was a propaganda MACHINE. I work with an Iraqi woman, and she too hates the Americans. They never mention Bush, always America.

So you are suggesting people in Iran hate the U.S because some Iranian national in your class said she hated the U.S? I can bring up a handful of people on this board alone who are constantly putting down the U.S and the way the U.S operates. Does that mean they hate the U.S?

What was the only country in the M.E where the people actually went out on the streets with candlelights after the 9/11 attacks? Iran.

There are millions of Iranians and you are basing what goes on inside Iran because of some Iranian "national" in your class in Canada.

Makes no sense.

It makes just as much sense as your stating that they hate Bush, not America.

I've had a few people give me first-hand accounts as to what goes on inside Iran. It ain't pretty. One guy I knew had his jaw shattered and he can barely speak now. He witnessed horrific tortures. The women I've spoken to talk about the totalitarian regime and how they had no rights over there.

That said, they have all expressed a disdain for America. Not Bush, America. Much of what they resent predates Dubya.

I'd put more creedence in someone looking me in the eye and telling me something like that than in CNN any day of the week.

Are you trying to tell me that the people of Iran somehow love America? Where are you getting this information?

Maybe because I am Iranian and every Iranian in the U.S will tell you that Iranians in Iran love the U.S.

They all want to come to the U.S. It is their dream.

What rights are women missing other than the fact that they have to wear a head scarf? I don't know of one Iranian woman who nags because they have to wear a head scarf when they visit Iran. They do it and they have fun and return again the next summer.

Go read the Foxnews.com report on Inside Iran.

An American woman journalist happens to stumble across a govt. street protest where they are burning the U.S Flag. When the people who are part of that rally (The most religious fanatical wacko jobs one can ever find in Iran) asked her where she was from she said she is American. They didn't spit in her face. They welcomed her and told her they don't hate America and that they hate Bush.

People in the Middle East want to come to the US/Canada/wherever to escape war. I don't think it has much to do with "love"; immigration is all about selfishness and survival, along with propegating a stagnant foreign population (there's always a catch).

Just because you and some woman claim that people in Iran hate Bush, not America, I still don't believe you. I have been told otherwise. Did the Iranians not take issue with the first Gulf War? What about the Ayatolla (sp)? The US helped put that insane regime in power in the first place! But according to you, they just hate Bush. Riiiight. :roll:

My parents and almost every Iranian in the U.S came to the U.S during the Shah regime to get an education. What war were they escaping?

Ayatollah Khomeini promised a democracy. The minute he gained power he switched his words around and then Iraq attacked. When Iran was under attack by the invading Arabs I highly doubt anyone cared about who was running the country. All the focus was on getting the Arabs out of Iran.

70% of Iran's population is under the age of 25.
Which means they are way too young to remember anything that happened. Which means they do not care.

Like I said if Iranians hated the U.S so much they wouldn't go to the streets with candlelights the day after 9/11. They would be dancing in the streets.

I went to school with one Iranian girl. Granted, she came here for an education.

That said, I've worked with two Iranian archtiects, both trained in Tehran, along with an Iraqi architect, trained in Baghdad.

Your generalizations don't fly with me. Perhaps we're dealing with different demographics seeing as I work in a large architecture firm and just about everyone is foreign trained and pretty much came here for what they thought would be more money.

BTW my friend is under 25 and she hates the US with a passion.

That's 2 people out of 70+ million.

Iraqis are not Iranians.

I'll give you 4 people who love the U.S. My parents, my brother, and I. I'm part of the armed forces if that proves I love the U.S.

There my 4 > 2.

I could go on...but I think the best thing for you to do is to bang your Iranian friend and stop listening to the things that come out of her mouth.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab
From your own article...

Several hundred angry Iranians hurled stones and fire bombs and were forced back by police with tear gas.

Your article has absolutely nothing to do with Iran's atomic issuse. The issuse over the cartoons is stupid, if you make fun of an already high tempered people - what the hell do you think they're going to do? Sit there and take it?

THESE ARE THE LEADERS DOING THIS, not the people. If Iran puts an embargo on you because they don't like a cartoon run in a newspaper based in your country, imagine what they'd do when they're really angry -- and have nukes in their possession.

Imagine what the United States, Great Britian, France, Germany, Russia, China or even North Korea would if they got really angry at another country...

They blocked trade with a country that barley even trades with them at all and insulted pratically the entire muslim community who are already stressed out. Who cares?

Iran needs to be dealt with ASAP. Their leaders are absolutely insane. Their people are brainwashed into hating Americans. They are a much bigger threat than Iraq ever was. I hope they're next on the agenda. Bin Laden is already wavering. With Iran knocked out, only Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are left as major terrorist strongholds. It sounds daunting, and it is. The scary thing is that this type of alignment parallels the fall of the Roman Empire. The Arabs brought down the Romans, and the same could happen here. Scary stuff.

Their people don't hate America. Their people hate Bush. They'll fit in perfectly with the P&N crowd.

They hate America. I went to school with an Iranian national and she HATED the US. She went on and on saying things like "How can the US tell us how to use nukes when they are the only nation to deply nuclear weapons against human beings?". She was a propaganda MACHINE. I work with an Iraqi woman, and she too hates the Americans. They never mention Bush, always America.

So you are suggesting people in Iran hate the U.S because some Iranian national in your class said she hated the U.S? I can bring up a handful of people on this board alone who are constantly putting down the U.S and the way the U.S operates. Does that mean they hate the U.S?

What was the only country in the M.E where the people actually went out on the streets with candlelights after the 9/11 attacks? Iran.

There are millions of Iranians and you are basing what goes on inside Iran because of some Iranian "national" in your class in Canada.

Makes no sense.

It makes just as much sense as your stating that they hate Bush, not America.

I've had a few people give me first-hand accounts as to what goes on inside Iran. It ain't pretty. One guy I knew had his jaw shattered and he can barely speak now. He witnessed horrific tortures. The women I've spoken to talk about the totalitarian regime and how they had no rights over there.

That said, they have all expressed a disdain for America. Not Bush, America. Much of what they resent predates Dubya.

I'd put more creedence in someone looking me in the eye and telling me something like that than in CNN any day of the week.

Are you trying to tell me that the people of Iran somehow love America? Where are you getting this information?

Maybe because I am Iranian and every Iranian in the U.S will tell you that Iranians in Iran love the U.S.

They all want to come to the U.S. It is their dream.

What rights are women missing other than the fact that they have to wear a head scarf? I don't know of one Iranian woman who nags because they have to wear a head scarf when they visit Iran. They do it and they have fun and return again the next summer.

Go read the Foxnews.com report on Inside Iran.

An American woman journalist happens to stumble across a govt. street protest where they are burning the U.S Flag. When the people who are part of that rally (The most religious fanatical wacko jobs one can ever find in Iran) asked her where she was from she said she is American. They didn't spit in her face. They welcomed her and told her they don't hate America and that they hate Bush.

People in the Middle East want to come to the US/Canada/wherever to escape war. I don't think it has much to do with "love"; immigration is all about selfishness and survival, along with propegating a stagnant foreign population (there's always a catch).

Just because you and some woman claim that people in Iran hate Bush, not America, I still don't believe you. I have been told otherwise. Did the Iranians not take issue with the first Gulf War? What about the Ayatolla (sp)? The US helped put that insane regime in power in the first place! But according to you, they just hate Bush. Riiiight. :roll:

My parents and almost every Iranian in the U.S came to the U.S during the Shah regime to get an education. What war were they escaping?

Ayatollah Khomeini promised a democracy. The minute he gained power he switched his words around and then Iraq attacked. When Iran was under attack by the invading Arabs I highly doubt anyone cared about who was running the country. All the focus was on getting the Arabs out of Iran.

70% of Iran's population is under the age of 25.
Which means they are way too young to remember anything that happened. Which means they do not care.

Like I said if Iranians hated the U.S so much they wouldn't go to the streets with candlelights the day after 9/11. They would be dancing in the streets.

I went to school with one Iranian girl. Granted, she came here for an education.

That said, I've worked with two Iranian archtiects, both trained in Tehran, along with an Iraqi architect, trained in Baghdad.

Your generalizations don't fly with me. Perhaps we're dealing with different demographics seeing as I work in a large architecture firm and just about everyone is foreign trained and pretty much came here for what they thought would be more money.

BTW my friend is under 25 and she hates the US with a passion. She said that on 9-11 the US got what was coming to them. So much for candles.

Tell her the feeling is mutual. What reason she gave for hating America?

That we support Israel, that we're too powerful? That we support tyrants?

If so, then what separates us from the EU, who also support tyrants?

She emailed me a massive list right before the Iraq war. I deleted it because I found it offensive. Let's just say that she had her reasons. I mentionned the nuke thing above. There was something about the US being war-mongerers, involved in over 50 wars during the 1900's. The list went on and on. Chemical weapons in Vietnam. The entire Vietnam war. Etc etc. Anything remotely shameful about America was in her email.

I'm not sure she mentionned Israel. IMO that's not the US's business though.

 

[SickBeast]

Oh yeah, she mentionned Kyoto which I thought was a hoot seeing as Iran is pumping out a good chunk of that ozone-killing oil.

 

[Aimster]

Your friend is an idiot.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Oh yeah, she mentionned Kyoto which I thought was a hoot seeing as Iran is pumping out a good chunk of that ozone-killing oil.

What an ignoramus. She is a typical anti-American know it all who seems to think she has all the answers. She'll make a lot of friends in San Fransicko and New York City. Well I have not met her but thats the way she sounds.

Tell her to compare our history with the history of other countries and then tell us how evil we are.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab
From your own article...

Several hundred angry Iranians hurled stones and fire bombs and were forced back by police with tear gas.

Your article has absolutely nothing to do with Iran's atomic issuse. The issuse over the cartoons is stupid, if you make fun of an already high tempered people - what the hell do you think they're going to do? Sit there and take it?

THESE ARE THE LEADERS DOING THIS, not the people. If Iran puts an embargo on you because they don't like a cartoon run in a newspaper based in your country, imagine what they'd do when they're really angry -- and have nukes in their possession.

Imagine what the United States, Great Britian, France, Germany, Russia, China or even North Korea would if they got really angry at another country...

They blocked trade with a country that barley even trades with them at all and insulted pratically the entire muslim community who are already stressed out. Who cares?

Iran needs to be dealt with ASAP. Their leaders are absolutely insane. Their people are brainwashed into hating Americans. They are a much bigger threat than Iraq ever was. I hope they're next on the agenda. Bin Laden is already wavering. With Iran knocked out, only Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are left as major terrorist strongholds. It sounds daunting, and it is. The scary thing is that this type of alignment parallels the fall of the Roman Empire. The Arabs brought down the Romans, and the same could happen here. Scary stuff.

Their people don't hate America. Their people hate Bush. They'll fit in perfectly with the P&N crowd.

They hate America. I went to school with an Iranian national and she HATED the US. She went on and on saying things like "How can the US tell us how to use nukes when they are the only nation to deply nuclear weapons against human beings?". She was a propaganda MACHINE. I work with an Iraqi woman, and she too hates the Americans. They never mention Bush, always America.

So you are suggesting people in Iran hate the U.S because some Iranian national in your class said she hated the U.S? I can bring up a handful of people on this board alone who are constantly putting down the U.S and the way the U.S operates. Does that mean they hate the U.S?

What was the only country in the M.E where the people actually went out on the streets with candlelights after the 9/11 attacks? Iran.

There are millions of Iranians and you are basing what goes on inside Iran because of some Iranian "national" in your class in Canada.

Makes no sense.

It makes just as much sense as your stating that they hate Bush, not America.

I've had a few people give me first-hand accounts as to what goes on inside Iran. It ain't pretty. One guy I knew had his jaw shattered and he can barely speak now. He witnessed horrific tortures. The women I've spoken to talk about the totalitarian regime and how they had no rights over there.

That said, they have all expressed a disdain for America. Not Bush, America. Much of what they resent predates Dubya.

I'd put more creedence in someone looking me in the eye and telling me something like that than in CNN any day of the week.

Are you trying to tell me that the people of Iran somehow love America? Where are you getting this information?

Maybe because I am Iranian and every Iranian in the U.S will tell you that Iranians in Iran love the U.S.

They all want to come to the U.S. It is their dream.

What rights are women missing other than the fact that they have to wear a head scarf? I don't know of one Iranian woman who nags because they have to wear a head scarf when they visit Iran. They do it and they have fun and return again the next summer.

Go read the Foxnews.com report on Inside Iran.

An American woman journalist happens to stumble across a govt. street protest where they are burning the U.S Flag. When the people who are part of that rally (The most religious fanatical wacko jobs one can ever find in Iran) asked her where she was from she said she is American. They didn't spit in her face. They welcomed her and told her they don't hate America and that they hate Bush.

People in the Middle East want to come to the US/Canada/wherever to escape war. I don't think it has much to do with "love"; immigration is all about selfishness and survival, along with propegating a stagnant foreign population (there's always a catch).

Just because you and some woman claim that people in Iran hate Bush, not America, I still don't believe you. I have been told otherwise. Did the Iranians not take issue with the first Gulf War? What about the Ayatolla (sp)? The US helped put that insane regime in power in the first place! But according to you, they just hate Bush. Riiiight. :roll:

My parents and almost every Iranian in the U.S came to the U.S during the Shah regime to get an education. What war were they escaping?

Ayatollah Khomeini promised a democracy. The minute he gained power he switched his words around and then Iraq attacked. When Iran was under attack by the invading Arabs I highly doubt anyone cared about who was running the country. All the focus was on getting the Arabs out of Iran.

70% of Iran's population is under the age of 25.
Which means they are way too young to remember anything that happened. Which means they do not care.

Like I said if Iranians hated the U.S so much they wouldn't go to the streets with candlelights the day after 9/11. They would be dancing in the streets.

I went to school with one Iranian girl. Granted, she came here for an education.

That said, I've worked with two Iranian archtiects, both trained in Tehran, along with an Iraqi architect, trained in Baghdad.

Your generalizations don't fly with me. Perhaps we're dealing with different demographics seeing as I work in a large architecture firm and just about everyone is foreign trained and pretty much came here for what they thought would be more money.

BTW my friend is under 25 and she hates the US with a passion.

That's 2 people out of 70+ million.

Iraqis are not Iranians.

I'll give you 4 people who love the U.S. My parents, my brother, and I. I'm part of the armed forces if that proves I love the U.S.

There my 4 > 2.

I could go on...but I think the best thing for you to do is to bang your Iranian friend and stop listening to the things that come out of her mouth.

I'm always afraid that they'll cut off my pee-pee if I touch her bum-bum.

That said she is hot, dispite some ill-placed body hair (don't ask).

Anyways, good luck in the forces. I hope they don't make you some kind of undercover mole; that could get interesting/dangerous. :beer:

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I don't see the problem.

Iran's leadership is choosing to prevent its citizens from buying products from a country it has issues with . . . hello Cuba?

It's bad policy considering Iran is losing another market for its oil and other exports but that's their dumb arse perogative.

 

[Czar]

aarrrggg quote overload

 

[Acanthus]

It is my opinion that soon the iranians will collapse from within, no one, including iranians likes the iran govt.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
It is my opinion that soon the iranians will collapse from within, no one, including iranians likes the iran govt.

Well du'h. The government is instable, and people are rebelling from the inside, the younger generations are very pro western.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Acanthus
It is my opinion that soon the iranians will collapse from within, no one, including iranians likes the iran govt.

Well du'h. The government is instable, and people are rebelling from the inside, the younger generations are very pro western.

The only problem is it cant happen fast enough, im hoping it occurs before Iran drags itself in a bloody war with the world.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Acanthus
It is my opinion that soon the iranians will collapse from within, no one, including iranians likes the iran govt.

Well du'h. The government is instable, and people are rebelling from the inside, the younger generations are very pro western.

The only problem is it cant happen fast enough, im hoping it occurs before Iran drags itself in a bloody war with the world.

I doubt it will. They'd loose a war, soehh. No reason for it.

 

[StageLeft]

In a word: Islam.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
In a word: Islam.

I don't get it? Elaborate please.

 

[biostud]

For some reason mo muslim country seems to boycot Maersk which very much is a danish company :evil: