Iran and sanctions

[Nocturnal]

What happens if they both oppose sanctions? It's just a moot point since all five have to agree in order to add sanctions, right?

 

[5150Joker]

Then UK/US along with Mossad intelligence help will attack Iran most likely without the UN's blessing. UN is a limp organization that has no real power so I'm not even sure why it's kept around these days.

 

[Aimster]

UK won't attack Iran.

 

[JinLien]

The US is not in the position to attach anyone at the moment.

US citizens confident in Bush are at an all time low.
World opinion of America is at an all time low.
US surrounded Iran forcing Iran to cut some sweet deals with China & Russia.
China & Russia is using Iran as a buffer against the Imperialistic army.
China might call in the debts that the US owes them if the US tries to invade their piece of pie.
The rest of the ME countries might join the war if the US invade Iran.

Bush would have invaded Iran if he had the mean to do so long ago if there is a slim chance of conquering Iran, because he have his armies/bases surrounded Iran in Afghanistan (West border of Iran), Iraq (East border of Iran), Persian/Oman Gulf (South coast of Iran).

[add]I would do exactly the same thing as the president of Iran if I were in his shoes, because the psycho US dictator name Iran as one of the Axis of Evil and have its county surrounded.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: JinLien
The US is not in the position to attach anyone at the moment.

US citizens confident in Bush are at an all time low.
World opinion of America is at an all time low.
US surrounded Iran forcing Iran to cut some sweet deals with China & Russia.
China & Russia is using Iran as a buffer against the Imperialistic army.
China might call in the debts that the US owes them if the US tries to invade their piece of pie.
The rest of the ME countries might join the war if the US invade Iran.

Bush would have invaded Iran if he had the mean to do so long ago if there is a slim chance of conquering Iran, because he have his armies/bases surrounded Iran in Afghanistan (West border of Iran), Iraq (East border of Iran), Persian/Oman Gulf (South coast of Iran).

[add]I would do exactly the same thing as the president of Iran if I were in his shoes, because the psycho US dictator name Iran as one of the Axis of Evil and have its county surrounded.

Yeah we all heard the same rhetoric from liberals when the US was preparing to attack Iraq and none of it came true. The same will hold true with regards to Iran.

 

[Aimster]

Iraq was attacked in 1991.
After 1991 I think Canada could have defeated Iraq.

It took 500,000+ U.S troops alone (not including the other nations that had troops - 150,000 troops, 30 nations) to defeat Iraq's military in 1991. Remember this wasn't an invasion. Iraqi troops were all out in the desert for U.S troops to enjoy target practice. It won't be that way with Iran. The desert is in the middle of the country where nobody lives. No point for troops to be there.

The problem with the U.S right now is they don't have that kind of manpower to dedicate to Iran.
We will have to invade Iran which is larger than Iraq and has a population 3x larger. The people aren't suppressed like the people in Iraq. They won't easily welcome U.S troops into Iran like the Iraqis did.

it will be a long and bloody battle and the U.S already wasted their "wrong war" card on Iraq.

 

[JinLien]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: JinLien
The US is not in the position to attach anyone at the moment.

US citizens confident in Bush are at an all time low.
World opinion of America is at an all time low.
US surrounded Iran forcing Iran to cut some sweet deals with China & Russia.
China & Russia is using Iran as a buffer against the Imperialistic army.
China might call in the debts that the US owes them if the US tries to invade their piece of pie.
The rest of the ME countries might join the war if the US invade Iran.

Bush would have invaded Iran if he had the mean to do so long ago if there is a slim chance of conquering Iran, because he have his armies/bases surrounded Iran in Afghanistan (West border of Iran), Iraq (East border of Iran), Persian/Oman Gulf (South coast of Iran).

[add]I would do exactly the same thing as the president of Iran if I were in his shoes, because the psycho US dictator name Iran as one of the Axis of Evil and have its county surrounded.

Yeah we all heard the same rhetoric from liberals when the US was preparing to attack Iraq and none of it came true. The same will hold true with regards to Iran.

Yup! "rhetoric"

I was one of many that predicted the US would invade Iran because it had armies built up at the border of Iraq.

This time round things are different because the Neocon know that they are not going to take on Iran with out having similar or worst troubles than Iraq at the present. And, the saber rattling is going on way too long with out action from Bush & Co, therefore it is a good indication that the US admin is more than hesitant at take on the Iranian. Bush lap dogs are also having problems of their own, therefore it is not likely that they are going to join in if Bush is dumb enough to go into Iran and pissing off the rest of the Muslims countries.

 

[JinLien]

it will be a long and bloody battle and the U.S already wasted their "wrong war" card on Iraq.

Or it could be that Bush & Co take on Iraq to put Iran in a vice grip, but it backed fired because Iran is doing a good job at keeping the US occupies in Iraq & Afghanistan at the moment. It seemed as if the Iranian government/society is much more organized than Iraq.

 

[magomago]

I would be opposed to sanctions. Sanctions hurt the people, not the government. We assumed in the early 90s that sanctions could be the new form of "punishment"...yet over 15 years of sanctions on Iraq proved only that 1 million Iraqi children died, and Saddam was still the leader.

Anyone who advocates sactions on Iran does not understand the fundamentals about sanctions and what sanctions really affects

 

[Aimster]

Well according to Iran they will be self-sufficient in oil by the end of the year.

Sanctions will barely hurt Iran if this happens.