IPv6 and it's affect on warez/mp3s/divx

[Phokus]

Am i correct in thinking that warez/mp3's/divx is going to EXPLODE when IP version 6 comes around? I hear that multicast is required to be on if you want to add a router to a IPv6 network. 1 guy on an isdn connection uploading a movie to 10000 people at 128 kb/s each... OMG

 

[dawks]

wtf?

Heh.

Multicast is not making one connection like 128k ISDN and making it 128k for 10,000 connections..


All IPv6 is going to do is give a sh!t load more IP addresses.. its like adding another three digits to the phone system.. ie.. xxx-xxx-xxx-xxxx

 

[iamwiz82]

<< wtf?

Heh.

Multicast is not making one connection like 128k ISDN and making it 128k for 10,000 connections..


All IPv6 is going to do is give a sh!t load more IP addresses.. its like adding another three digits to the phone system.. ie.. xxx-xxx-xxx-xxxx >>



true. IPv6, from what i understand, only entails the actual number scheme.

 

[Derango]

you would be incorrect in thinking that. All IPv6 does is increase the number of possible IP address.

 

[Phokus]

<< you would be incorrect in thinking that. All IPv6 does is increase the number of possible IP address. >>



No, i read a technical paper and it said that Multicast is supported in IPv6 and that it has to be on in routers if they want to connect to the internet, unlike IPv4 (there is a network called mbone which is a multicast network that works across ipv4 networks, but they have to encapsulate ip packets to get multicast working).

 

[Stealth1024]

It would appear to be that a clarified definition is needed...

 

[dawks]

edited, thought so.

I guess you could put 10,000 ISDN lines into one plastic pipe.. Then you could have 10,000 people gettting 128k ISDN through 'one line' LOL.

 

[Electrode]

The days of 192.168.0.1/24 have ended. Long live 3ffe:ffff:0000:f101::1/24!

As you might have guessed, I am using IPv6 on my LAN. It is quite awesome. In addition to lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of possible IP addresses, there are some other benefits:

1. More resistant to spoofing.
2. QoS and priority stuff. Important stuff that needs to be done very quickly (such as SSHing into a nuclear reactor or something) can take priority over a game, or a video stream, which can take priority over browsing and e-mail. Not that its noticable.
3. Multicasting. Very, very cool if you've got some extra NICs to stick in your server.

 

[dawks]

Ok, so looks like I am wrong.. care to elabortate on your third point electrode?

 

[bandXtrb]

<< Long live 3ffe:ffff:0000:f101::1/24! >>

 

[Adul]

mmm windows XP supports ip6 if I am correct. How would I enable it on my home network if I where to setup a router to the net.

 

[Viper GTS]

You can patch Win2K to support IPv6 as well, it's not that hard.

Viper GTS

 

[MadRat]

IPv6 is likely a setback if anything for warez, making it easier to trace back to the source.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

I think IPv6 will make things easier to track stuff. It does a lot more than "increase the number of possible IP address". Its pretty cool, and it offers quite a bit of improvement over IPv4.

Check out http://www.ipv6.org/

 

[Electrode]

DaZ: If you have some extra nics, cables, and available space in your switch, you can double, triple, quadruple, etc your server's bandwidth by adding those nics to it. Very nice if you've got about 80 people on your LAN running StarOffice by remote X.
bandXtrb: That's an IPv6 address. the 1/24 part indicates a range, in this case 3ffe:ffff:0000:f101::1, 3ffe:ffff:0000:f101::2, and so on until 3ffe:ffff:0000:f101::24

 

[ViperMagic]

How do I make my current lan run IPv6? How do I chnage it back, sothe next time I take it somewhere for a LAN party, the 98/Me dudes can run the network too?

 

[Passions]

I'm playing at 3ffe:ffff:0000:f101::1/24!!! GOGOGO.

 

[Lithium381]

so what about the router i have now? do i have to find some firmware update or something? or is it backwards compatable? that's going to be a b!tch to get compatable with everywhere..heh

 

[ProviaFan]

<< How do I make my current lan run IPv6? How do I chnage it back, sothe next time I take it somewhere for a LAN party, the 98/Me dudes can run the network too? >>


I'd love to know that also. My two WinXP Pro boxen are connected by a LAN with a crossover cable.

 

[Viper GTS]

Search on microsoft's web page, there's lots of info there - including patches to make 2K run ipv6.

Viper GTS

 

[dawks]

From what I've heard, current routers wont support IPv6.. Even with firmware updates..

I dont know if thats correct though, but when you think about it, IPv6 routers will need ALOT of power to handle the large IP addresses..

Someone know for sure?

 

[Ameesh]

i'm in the group that is working on the next generation IPV4/6 stack, its available for developers to muck around with but wide scale deplotyments are not really encoureged until we have everything ready.


(this is for windows only, not for any unix platofrm)

 

[Ameesh]

<< From what I've heard, current routers wont support IPv6.. Even with firmware updates..

I dont know if thats correct though, but when you think about it, IPv6 routers will need ALOT of power to handle the large IP addresses..

Someone know for sure? >>



most likely they will not, because you will need more memory to hold larger routing tables and they will have more functionality. dhcp and other netowrk standards will not work the same.

 

[Ameesh]

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<< How do I make my current lan run IPv6? How do I chnage it back, sothe next time I take it somewhere for a LAN party, the 98/Me dudes can run the network too? >>


I'd love to know that also. My two WinXP Pro boxen are connected by a LAN with a crossover cable. >>




what possible use could you have for ipv6 then?

 

[bsobel]

> Multicast is used on networks where IP's are not assigned. Computers can still do basic communication using Multicast addresses.
> Multicast is not giving full bandwidth of one connection to thousands of users at a time. Not even two. With the current way we use networks, multiple computers will ALWAY share bandwidth.

I suggest you read up on multicasting, the mbone, and what this stuff really is before you respond

Bill