IPv4 ==> IPv6

nyker96

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Just saw some news that v4 addresses will deplete in 2011. So I take it we all eventually have to transition to v6. Anyone know when do we need to update equipments/software to v6?
 

Emulex

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everything is ipv6 ready. ipv6 optimized? hellz to the no.

Best thing we can right now - get a router to translate (NAT) and save ip's.

at home you might get 100mbps routing on ipv4 but only 20mbps on ipv6. (which is why i tell folks to turn off ipv6).

I think for a long time we'll using NAT and ipv4 still. Everything belongs behind a firewall anyways. there is a 1:1 ipv4->ipv6 map allocated already.
 

Lorne

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I did a quick overview on an article about v6, I thought all it was suppose to do was revise the adressing to break the ip limit was all, I didnt see any protocal revision otherwise.
Like the same thing puters and HDD, going from 32 to 36 for adressing perposes
 

ViviTheMage

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]Just saw some news that v4 addresses will deplete in 2011. [/B]So I take it we all eventually have to transition to v6. Anyone know when do we need to update equipments/software to v6?

Yeah ... I have a hard time believing this. I can still obtain class c ranges like they are pancakes at IHOP. If they were getting close to depleting, it would not be this easy...unless ARIN loves me.
 

imagoon

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We have been "going to run out of IPv4 address in a year" for almost 15 years now.

I keep reading about IPv6 and I really don't understand the absolute insistence that my toaster must have a world routable IP.
 

drebo

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IPv6 was way overengineered. They made it far more difficult than it needed to be, and as a result, very few are bothering to implement it at all.

As stated, articles come out every year that say we'll run out in a year's time, and guess what? We still haven't run out. CIDR and NAT have solved a lot of those problems. IPv6 has been around a LONG time. I'm of the opinion that we skip it and move to IPv8, which can be designed much more simply than IPv6: add four more octets and keep everything else the same. Yeah, we lose anycast and a host of other worthless features, but so what?
 

JackMDS

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There is a need to separate between actual reality, and the Reality of those who might profits from changes.

Many articles in the business are supported behind the scene by entities that have a business interest and pushing certain changes.


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m1ldslide1

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Yeah ... I have a hard time believing this. I can still obtain class c ranges like they are pancakes at IHOP. If they were getting close to depleting, it would not be this easy...unless ARIN loves me.

Who are you getting class C ranges from? I was under the impression that ARIN wouldn't allocate anything smaller than a /21 or /19 or something. If you're getting class C's, aren't those from an upstream provider rather than directly allocated via ARIN?


I think that we'll limp along by for a long time using a combination of NAT and IPv6, with IPv6 getting greater traction at large companies like google and higher-education (many of whom have already adopted heavily). While all of our production Cisco and Juniper gear is very IPv6 ready (although not optimized on some platforms like someone else said) the engineers themselves aren't fully IPv6 ready. I think this is true at most large organizations, and the time it takes folks to get used to IPv6's various idiosyncracies (addressing, routing, multicast, etc) is whats really held up adding dual-stack to this point. Once people get more acclimated to it, I think we'll see the migration pick up more.