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iPod's are not cross platform, correct ?

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: ironcrotch
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: ironcrotch
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: dighn
umm ipods do work with pcs

Apple's proprietary & notoriously buggy iTunes software

uhhh have u used itunes?

I'm not sure who u is, but why are you asking me if he's used iTunes? By the way, it's impolite to start someone's name with a lower-case letter when writing/typing it.

take a f'ing chill pill bro. i was asking you, because of your blanket statement that iTunes is notoriously buggy when in fact apple probably makes some of the best software on the market. and plus i dont need you to tell me whats impolite, last time i checked you weren't my mom. we are on an internet forum and i shall type as i please. got a problem?

Well, other than the fact that it makes you sound dumb, yes. iTunes is crap. It's a horrible, buggy piece of software that I've tried three times and had to uninstall to eradicate the evil. I'm glad I found a winamp plugin to move my mp3's to my iPod.


Just use EphPod, much easier/more powerful.

And to ironcrotch: Sorry, when Apple totes it as "The Best Windows App Ever" and it takes 3x as many resources and memory as explorer.exe, I think they meant "The Most Bloated/Buggy Windows App Ever"

i never said anything about itunes being the best. i just wanted to know what he meant by what he said by it being buggy and such. i'm a mac and pc user and it works fine for me. but its all good now, thanks.
 
Umm...to answer Sabot's original question, yes, iPods are completly cross-platform. Set it up on Windows so it gets formatted as Fat32, and you can use it on any (modern) Windows or Mac PC. You can change the format of the iPod's drive at any time using the updater program, but setting it up as FAT32 will let you use it cross platform with no additional drivers on either platform.

Also, it works fine with both Firewire or USB 2.0 (with a $20 cable). I'm using Firewire on two systems and USB 2.0 on a third, and either interface works just fine.
 
BTW, to answer the OP's original question, if you format a iPod for Windows then you can use it with both Mac and Windows, both for transfering music through iTunes and for storing files.
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: dighn
umm ipods do work with pcs

In a roundabout way, yes... As I understand it they follow the universal mass storage standard, which means they're a plug & play hard drive, but if you just copy mp3s to them they won't play them - to do that you have to use Apple's proprietary & notoriously buggy iTunes software. At any rate though, a less expensive DAP will save you money, have better sound quality & have longer battery life.

what?


ANYWAY, if you want to use your iPod between Mac and PC, just make sure you use it on a PC first, then it will format to Fat32, and Mac and PCs can read and write to Fat32.

In fact this is how I use my iPod. Its formated to Fat32 so that I can use it as an External HD for my machines. I even use my iBook to sync and it dosent care that its formated for windows.

As far as file sharing, on the PC of course you just ues it line any external HD. On the mac, there are some files that you should compress first, becasue fat32 dosent have a resource for that some mac files do. (mostly for apps and stuff, not documents)
 
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: dighn
umm ipods do work with pcs

In a roundabout way, yes... As I understand it they follow the universal mass storage standard, which means they're a plug & play hard drive, but if you just copy mp3s to them they won't play them - to do that you have to use Apple's proprietary & notoriously buggy iTunes software. At any rate though, a less expensive DAP will save you money, have better sound quality & have longer battery life.

what?


ANYWAY, if you want to use your iPod between Mac and PC, just make sure you use it on a PC first, then it will format to Fat32, and Mac and PCs can read and write to Fat32.

In fact this is how I use my iPod. Its formated to Fat32 so that I can use it as an External HD for my machines. I even use my iBook to sync and it dosent care that its formated for windows.

As far as file sharing, on the PC of course you just ues it line any external HD. On the mac, there are some files that you should compress first, becasue fat32 dosent have a resource for that some mac files do. (mostly for apps and stuff, not documents)


Alright, that was the answer I was looking for. Thanks guys.
 
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: dighn
umm ipods do work with pcs

In a roundabout way, yes... As I understand it they follow the universal mass storage standard, which means they're a plug & play hard drive, but if you just copy mp3s to them they won't play them - to do that you have to use Apple's proprietary & notoriously buggy iTunes software. At any rate though, a less expensive DAP will save you money, have better sound quality & have longer battery life.

what?


ANYWAY, if you want to use your iPod between Mac and PC, just make sure you use it on a PC first, then it will format to Fat32, and Mac and PCs can read and write to Fat32.

In fact this is how I use my iPod. Its formated to Fat32 so that I can use it as an External HD for my machines. I even use my iBook to sync and it dosent care that its formated for windows.

As far as file sharing, on the PC of course you just ues it line any external HD. On the mac, there are some files that you should compress first, becasue fat32 dosent have a resource for that some mac files do. (mostly for apps and stuff, not documents)

Clearly there are two crowds here, those who, for whatever reason love iTunes, and those who hate it for their own reasons. Good to knwow that a windows iPod can be read by a mac tho' :beer:
 
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: dighn
umm ipods do work with pcs

In a roundabout way, yes... As I understand it they follow the universal mass storage standard, which means they're a plug & play hard drive, but if you just copy mp3s to them they won't play them - to do that you have to use Apple's proprietary & notoriously buggy iTunes software. At any rate though, a less expensive DAP will save you money, have better sound quality & have longer battery life.

what?


ANYWAY, if you want to use your iPod between Mac and PC, just make sure you use it on a PC first, then it will format to Fat32, and Mac and PCs can read and write to Fat32.

In fact this is how I use my iPod. Its formated to Fat32 so that I can use it as an External HD for my machines. I even use my iBook to sync and it dosent care that its formated for windows.

As far as file sharing, on the PC of course you just ues it line any external HD. On the mac, there are some files that you should compress first, becasue fat32 dosent have a resource for that some mac files do. (mostly for apps and stuff, not documents)

Clearly there are two crowds here, those who, for whatever reason love iTunes, and those who hate it for their own reasons. Good to knwow that a windows iPod can be read by a mac tho' :beer:

Yes, it is good to know. I'm assuming that if you put files onto a pc formatted iPod FROM a mac, the PC will be able to read them ?
 
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: dighn
umm ipods do work with pcs

In a roundabout way, yes... As I understand it they follow the universal mass storage standard, which means they're a plug & play hard drive, but if you just copy mp3s to them they won't play them - to do that you have to use Apple's proprietary & notoriously buggy iTunes software. At any rate though, a less expensive DAP will save you money, have better sound quality & have longer battery life.

what?


ANYWAY, if you want to use your iPod between Mac and PC, just make sure you use it on a PC first, then it will format to Fat32, and Mac and PCs can read and write to Fat32.

In fact this is how I use my iPod. Its formated to Fat32 so that I can use it as an External HD for my machines. I even use my iBook to sync and it dosent care that its formated for windows.

As far as file sharing, on the PC of course you just ues it line any external HD. On the mac, there are some files that you should compress first, becasue fat32 dosent have a resource for that some mac files do. (mostly for apps and stuff, not documents)

Clearly there are two crowds here, those who, for whatever reason love iTunes, and those who hate it for their own reasons. Good to knwow that a windows iPod can be read by a mac tho' :beer:

Yes, it is good to know. I'm assuming that if you put files onto a pc formatted iPod FROM a mac, the PC will be able to read them ?

Logically, considering the drive is Fat32.
 
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Originally posted by: Gurck
notoriously buggy iTunes software.
what?

Scroll up, read one of my previous replies where I linked a thread on iTune's bugginess. Even if only half of people (or fewer; any significant percentage, really) experience bugs with a piece of software, it's still considered buggy. If you haven't experienced bugs with iTunes, excellent, consider yourself one of its luckier users. Regardless though, the more important point is that people should be able to use it if they want, not be forced into it. If it's a good product, plenty will anyway.
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Originally posted by: Gurck
notoriously buggy iTunes software.
what?

Scroll up, read one of my previous replies where I linked a thread on iTune's bugginess. Even if only half of people (or fewer; any significant percentage, really) experience bugs with a piece of software, it's still considered buggy. If you haven't experienced bugs with iTunes, excellent, consider yourself one of its luckier users. Regardless though, the more important point is that people should be able to use it if they want, not be forced into it. If it's a good product, plenty will anyway.

I have not yet had time to look into the link you posted, but I will sometime later tonight. I was just supprised that I had never have heard of any such thing, but hey, its apple 😉. I really only use iTunes on my ibook mainly I like the way it handles editing mass amts of ID3 tags, that and AFAIK its the best one for mac. Of course I use winamp on my pc's

As far as being able to read files on a PC that you put on the ipod using a mac, this will work just fine. As far as the computers are concerned the iPod is just an external firewire (or USB) hard drive. Althought I do beleive that you can dissable this on the mac.

I think I just made a folder on my iPod that I call "Files" and then use that to keep stuff in.
 
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