iPhone 5 regains US marketshare

[MrX8503]

48% for the US.
46.7% for Android

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/27...sales-lead-from-android-on-iphone-5-strength/

Seems reminiscent of the 4S launch. Still behind Android world wide, but still an impressive feat.

60/40 for upgrade/new users so Apple is still pulling a decent amount of new users. Don't see these two contenders going away soon.

 

[TuxDave]

Pretty amazing job for Apple.

That chart is really hard to read. It makes it look like when the 4S was released, Android growth plummeted. But it's far more likely that iOS growth stalled just before the 4S release (which inflated Android %). I wish they had it in absolute numbers.

 

[Red Storm]

The report pegs Apple's share of the market during the August-October period at 48.1%, compared to 46.7% for Android.

These numbers are for that specific time period. Big boost from Apple, would be interested in seeing what the true total numbers are right now.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Market Share is how much was sold in that time period right? If so, I'm kinda surprised it wasn't even higher. With the iPhone5 release I'd have expected Apple to have a majority.

 

[MrX8503]

These numbers are for that specific time period. Big boost from Apple, would be interested in seeing what the true total numbers are right now.

I think it means that it includes everything up to October.

 

[Red Storm]

It specifically says from August to October. So during that span more iPhones than Android phones were sold, but I believe the overall market share is still on Android's side.

 

[lothar]

Apple always regains marketshare with every new iPhone release and loses it within 4-5 months.
This shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that isn't a diehard Android fanatic.

 

[TuxDave]

Apple always regains marketshare with every new iPhone release and loses it within 4-5 months.
This shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that isn't a diehard Android fanatic.

Heh, makes me think that in 4 months we'll see a thread "Apple marketshare falls behind Android!"

 

[jpeyton]

Apple always regains marketshare with every new iPhone release and loses it within 4-5 months.
This shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that isn't a diehard Android fanatic.

Except the boost was artificially higher this year because of how pathetic an upgrade the 4S turned out to be.

The overall long term trend in every country (even in the US) is still towards Android. People are becoming disenchanted with iOS and grids filled with icons, regardless of how many chamfered cuts Apple puts on their phones.

 

[cheezy321]

Except the boost was artificially higher this year because of how pathetic an upgrade the 4S turned out to be.

The overall long term trend in every country (even in the US) is still towards Android. People are becoming disenchanted with iOS and grids filled with icons, regardless of how many chamfered cuts Apple puts on their phones.

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[TuxDave]

Except the boost was artificially higher this year because of how pathetic an upgrade the 4S turned out to be.

The overall long term trend in every country (even in the US) is still towards Android. People are becoming disenchanted with iOS and grids filled with icons, regardless of how many chamfered cuts Apple puts on their phones.

I don't know if the world does things the way I do things, but I go on 2 year upgrade cycles because I'm contract limited. I know some like to flip phones every year but I'm not sure if that's the majority. So you really should consider 2 year upgrade cycles and 3GS --> 4S is huge.

As for 4 vs 4S, I really don't know if it's worth my time to argue that.

 

[lothar]

Regarding 2 year contracts, which is a bigger jump...3GS to 4S or 4 to 5? Next year will be comparing 4 to 5 vs 4S to "X"?

 

[TuxDave]

Regarding 2 year contracts, which is a bigger jump...3GS to 4S or 4 to 5? Next year will be comparing 4 to 5 vs 4S to "X"?

Just warning you, I may be biased because I don't have a 5 and so I may have been rationalizing to myself why it's ok not to have it.

So given that, I think 3GS to 4S > 4 to 5.

(only highlighting the things that matter to me)
3GS to 4S
+Siri
+Facetime
+Retina Display

4 to 5*
+Siri
+Bigger screen
+Much faster graphic/gaming

* note I didn't bring up LTE because I don't get very good LTE coverage in my home area.

 

[Red Storm]

I'd say the 4 to 5. Bigger (well, taller) screen and LTE are very noticeable improvements.

 

[vi edit]

The overall long term trend in every country (even in the US) is still towards Android. People are becoming disenchanted with iOS and grids filled with icons, regardless of how many chamfered cuts Apple puts on their phones.

I think it's more of a hardware appeal than the underlying OS. Android simply has impressive hardware options. Razr M, Galaxy SIII, Note 2, DNA, Razr Maxx, One X, ect. All of these offer unique and appealing features that Apple does not. As Android catches up in UI it's making the leap even easier.

Apple will almost always have good sales, even the most devout Android fan has to admit that it's not a terrible collection of hardware and that for many people the iPhone really does work well. It's not a bad phone. But the alternatives are really starting to pile up.

MS had a chance to really make a push but frankly they bumbled it and the current state of their ecosystem is going to be their death. The absence of first party apps is glaring to anyone coming from iOS/Android. Plus some really dumb oversights in function at launch just turned away a lot of users. Which is a shame because it's a cute and functional little OS.

 

[jpeyton]

I don't know if the world does things the way I do things, but I go on 2 year upgrade cycles because I'm contract limited. I know some like to flip phones every year but I'm not sure if that's the majority. So you really should consider 2 year upgrade cycles and 3GS --> 4S is huge.

As for 4 vs 4S, I really don't know if it's worth my time to argue that.

Two things throw a wrench into that.

1) The 4S abandoned the 12 month release schedule; the 4 came out in June 2010, the 4S in October 2011.

2) Carriers are offering two levels of early upgrades. On AT&T, for example, you can upgrade every 20 months, or pay a $250 fee and upgrade every ~14 months.

 

[cheezy321]

Two things throw a wrench into that.

1) The 4S abandoned the 12 month release schedule; the 4 came out in June 2010, the 4S in October 2011.

2) Carriers are offering two levels of early upgrades. On AT&T, for example, you can upgrade every 20 months, or pay a $250 fee and upgrade every ~14 months.

and the 5 brought back the 12 month release schedule. Whats your point?

 

[TuxDave]

Two things throw a wrench into that.

1) The 4S abandoned the 12 month release schedule; the 4 came out in June 2010, the 4S in October 2011.

2) Carriers are offering two levels of early upgrades. On AT&T, for example, you can upgrade every 20 months, or pay a $250 fee and upgrade every ~14 months.

1) So that makes it a 16month release cycle, so you either wait 4 months to get around the fee, or just wait another 7 months to get the next generation. You kind of end up in the middle of no-where land (roughly the center of a release).

Consider an aggressive 20month cycle buyer:
Buy iPhone 4 in June 2010
Buy iPhone 4S in Feb 2012
Buy iPhone 5 in Oct 2013? By that time iPhone 6 is probably out. It's nearly impossible to get every generation of a device without a fee.

2) Personally I would never pay $250 for an early upgrade free (and then you have to pay for the phone on TOP of that). I don't know if a majority of people do that, but I can tell you that 100% of my friends have never paid an additional fee to upgrade early. They would all rather just wait out until it's normal. This is me with no proof, but I think the majority of iPhone user buy every other generation or larger (important point on larger because I still see 3GS around. For some people throwing around $200 on a phone every other year isn't viable)


Edit: One more thing. I just checked my upgrade eligibility. June 2013. It would be idiotic for me to use that time to buy a 5.

 

[KentState]

Is the article and chart really just phone sales or OS sales? Secondly, if this is sales for the period, then Android has a lot more area under the line meaning more total units sold by a large margin. Hell, Apple has only had a few periods of higher sales since 2010 and that only last a few weeks.

I think the OP's title is a little misleading.

 

[Shlong]

Is the article and chart really just phone sales or OS sales? Secondly, if this is sales for the period, then Android has a lot more area under the line meaning more total units sold by a large margin. Hell, Apple has only had a few periods of higher sales since 2010 and that only last a few weeks.

I think the OP's title is a little misleading.

It's for iOS, so that should include the iPhone 4s, iPhone 4.

 

[KentState]

It's for iOS, so that should include the iPhone 4s, iPhone 4.

And iPod touch, iPad and iPad mini?

 

[Shlong]

And iPod touch, iPad and iPad mini?

The chart says "smartphones", those wouldn't fit under that category.

 

[Red Storm]

Pretty sure it's just phones, and yes the title is a bit misleading.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I don't know if the world does things the way I do things, but I go on 2 year upgrade cycles because I'm contract limited. I know some like to flip phones every year but I'm not sure if that's the majority. So you really should consider 2 year upgrade cycles and 3GS --> 4S is huge.

Yeah, but quite honestly the 3GS is a fine smartphone for some and I bet many who could have gotten a 4S waited until the five.

My wife sat on her upgrade for a year because she wanted an iPhone with a larger screen before the 4S even hit.

 

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