IP35 VS IP35-E **COMMENTS / SUGGESTIONS**

nefariouscaine

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After having some issues with my boards - well I'm blaming it on my boards right now - I'm looking to go over to one of the new Intel Chips (hellz, I'm not opposed to staying Nvidia either...) But I'm looking at one of the Abit offerings currently - IP35 or the IP35-e

I was looking at the Pro version but was hearing about heating issues due to the heatpipe config.

I got my current mobo from good old B&M Fry's so I might try my hand at another new P5N-e SLI or see if they'll let me exchange it for something of equal or lesser value.

I've heard all kinds of tasty things about the IP35-e version of the board but not too much fan fare about the vanilla IP35

Budget is a minor point on it but the board will be used for gaming and overclocked (nothing crazy yet but 425 mhz is a bare minimum) - RAID support is a non issue at this time as well but would prefer to have PCI-e gig lan

I've looked at the mobo list and I'm kinda pulling some of my thoughts from there but always look for personal suggestions from anandtech users

LMK
 

JSK07

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I was in the same boat but after thinking about it I did not need the RAID or 1394 firewire so I just went with the IP35-E for $89 from Newegg. I just installed the board on Monday and it was painless.
 

Miramonti

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Don't let the 'heatpipe issue' discourage you from the pro. Using screws instead of the standard heatsink clips will not only fix the issue, but will provide better heat dissipation than the -e with its heatsinks/clips (I don't have proof but theoretically, the screws should be better than clips, and heatpipe I believe is better than the the -e's heatsinks.) I like the extras that the pro offers (esata, more fan aux's, led bios readout, external bios reset switch...and raid IF I want it later.)

Many people have a problem paying an extra $100 for those bells and whistles, and I think that's ridiculous. Just kidding, of course that's legitimate and understandable, the value of the -e is undeniably unsurpassed. :)

As for the middle version, I wasn't a fan of it, as it didn't offer much over the over the -e version except raid and firewire (iirc), and none of the fun and convenient extras I mentioned reg. the pro.
 

aiya24

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RAID and firewire are the only differences. they both share the same board layout and bios so if you need RAID and/or firewire, get the IP35. if not, IP35-E.

the only thing i would've liked is esata but i can always purchase a stand alone pci-e card for that.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: nefariouscaine
After having some issues with my boards - well I'm blaming it on my boards right now - I'm looking to go over to one of the new Intel Chips (hellz, I'm not opposed to staying Nvidia either...) But I'm looking at one of the Abit offerings currently - IP35 or the IP35-e

I was looking at the Pro version but was hearing about heating issues due to the heatpipe config.

I got my current mobo from good old B&M Fry's so I might try my hand at another new P5N-e SLI or see if they'll let me exchange it for something of equal or lesser value.

I've heard all kinds of tasty things about the IP35-e version of the board but not too much fan fare about the vanilla IP35

Budget is a minor point on it but the board will be used for gaming and overclocked (nothing crazy yet but 425 mhz is a bare minimum) - RAID support is a non issue at this time as well but would prefer to have PCI-e gig lan

I've looked at the mobo list and I'm kinda pulling some of my thoughts from there but always look for personal suggestions from anandtech users

LMK

I think that's a 9x multi chip. 425MHz FSB would result in 3.83GHz! That's a crazy overclock in my book.

Both boards have LAN on PCI-E. The IP35 adds RAID and 1394. Abit uses the same core board for IP35 and IP35-E. Be sure to add active cooling at NB and PWM if you're going to put a lot of juice on the chip.

Issue with the heat pipe is the thermal load must be shared between the NB and PWM heat sinks. For optimum cooling, put a fan between the PWM and NB heat sinks to cool both parts. Heat pipe is worthless without air flow to the fins.

Check the flatness of the PWM heat sink. Lap as required to achieve a flat plane. The two spring pins will provide ample contact to achieve good heat transfer. You only need to bolt down the heat sink if you have a 3rd heat pipe (IP35 or IP35 Pro).
 

nefariouscaine

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: nefariouscaine
After having some issues with my boards - well I'm blaming it on my boards right now - I'm looking to go over to one of the new Intel Chips (hellz, I'm not opposed to staying Nvidia either...) But I'm looking at one of the Abit offerings currently - IP35 or the IP35-e

I was looking at the Pro version but was hearing about heating issues due to the heatpipe config.

I got my current mobo from good old B&M Fry's so I might try my hand at another new P5N-e SLI or see if they'll let me exchange it for something of equal or lesser value.

I've heard all kinds of tasty things about the IP35-e version of the board but not too much fan fare about the vanilla IP35

Budget is a minor point on it but the board will be used for gaming and overclocked (nothing crazy yet but 425 mhz is a bare minimum) - RAID support is a non issue at this time as well but would prefer to have PCI-e gig lan

I've looked at the mobo list and I'm kinda pulling some of my thoughts from there but always look for personal suggestions from anandtech users

LMK

I think that's a 9x multi chip. 425MHz FSB would result in 3.83GHz! That's a crazy overclock in my book.

Both boards have LAN on PCI-E. The IP35 adds RAID and 1394. Abit uses the same core board for IP35 and IP35-E. Be sure to add active cooling at NB and PWM if you're going to put a lot of juice on the chip.

Issue with the heat pipe is the thermal load must be shared between the NB and PWM heat sinks. For optimum cooling, put a fan between the PWM and NB heat sinks to cool both parts. Heat pipe is worthless without air flow to the fins.

Check the flatness of the PWM heat sink. Lap as required to achieve a flat plane. The two spring pins will provide ample contact to achieve good heat transfer. You only need to bolt down the heat sink if you have a 3rd heat pipe (IP35 or IP35 Pro).

I generally use the 8x Multi for OC'ing at its easier to get a decently round ratio with ram clocks when compared to 9x - my current chip doesn't like 3.4 too much but I see a G0 quad in my not too distant future so I can always dream of it doing close to 3.4ghz

I generally active cool everything that makes any sense to actively cool (NB, SB, RAM - prolly PWM now too) - too many fans some times

I think I'm gonna swing by fry's tonight and see what they have - I know they have the IP35-e and the Pro

maybe pick up the IP35-e if its cheap enough and spend the night installing
 

hokiealumnus

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Just a reiteration of the earlier posts. If you don't need RAID, firewire & the extra two SATA ports, go with the -E. Same darn board, just has the ICH9 instead of ICH9R southbridge. It's rock solid and overclocks like a dream. You won't be disappointed with either.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: nefariouscaine
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: nefariouscaine
After having some issues with my boards - well I'm blaming it on my boards right now - I'm looking to go over to one of the new Intel Chips (hellz, I'm not opposed to staying Nvidia either...) But I'm looking at one of the Abit offerings currently - IP35 or the IP35-e

I was looking at the Pro version but was hearing about heating issues due to the heatpipe config.

I got my current mobo from good old B&M Fry's so I might try my hand at another new P5N-e SLI or see if they'll let me exchange it for something of equal or lesser value.

I've heard all kinds of tasty things about the IP35-e version of the board but not too much fan fare about the vanilla IP35

Budget is a minor point on it but the board will be used for gaming and overclocked (nothing crazy yet but 425 mhz is a bare minimum) - RAID support is a non issue at this time as well but would prefer to have PCI-e gig lan

I've looked at the mobo list and I'm kinda pulling some of my thoughts from there but always look for personal suggestions from anandtech users

LMK

I think that's a 9x multi chip. 425MHz FSB would result in 3.83GHz! That's a crazy overclock in my book.

Both boards have LAN on PCI-E. The IP35 adds RAID and 1394. Abit uses the same core board for IP35 and IP35-E. Be sure to add active cooling at NB and PWM if you're going to put a lot of juice on the chip.

Issue with the heat pipe is the thermal load must be shared between the NB and PWM heat sinks. For optimum cooling, put a fan between the PWM and NB heat sinks to cool both parts. Heat pipe is worthless without air flow to the fins.

Check the flatness of the PWM heat sink. Lap as required to achieve a flat plane. The two spring pins will provide ample contact to achieve good heat transfer. You only need to bolt down the heat sink if you have a 3rd heat pipe (IP35 or IP35 Pro).

I generally use the 8x Multi for OC'ing at its easier to get a decently round ratio with ram clocks when compared to 9x - my current chip doesn't like 3.4 too much but I see a G0 quad in my not too distant future so I can always dream of it doing close to 3.4ghz

I generally active cool everything that makes any sense to actively cool (NB, SB, RAM - prolly PWM now too) - too many fans some times

I think I'm gonna swing by fry's tonight and see what they have - I know they have the IP35-e and the Pro

maybe pick up the IP35-e if its cheap enough and spend the night installing

Intel chips work best at default multi. Find the highest stable overclock and use the memory divider to overclock your RAMs for a small boost in speed. You'll also be able to take advantage of C1E and EIST at default multi. 3.4GHz is possible with adequate cooling and a capable chip. I didn't have any problem with an E6320 @ 488MHz FSB. VTT, NB, and SB upped one notch from default.
 

CDC Mail Guy

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No IP35-E at Newegg :( At Tiger for $109.99 after $20 rebate, which is roughly $70 less than the Pro edition at the Egg. Thanks for saving me $70, because I do NOT need SLI nor RAID/firewire.