IP-35-E Reset at StartUP

[JackMDS]

I am running an Abit IP35-E for few weeks.

BIOS are v13 the "thingy" worked OK until 24 hours ago.

When I boot it today, it started the Reset at StartUP issue typical to previous version of the BIOS.
During the day I few time shut the computer Off and rebooted every time it does the Reset ?Song and Dance? at Start UP.

I checked and it v13 as it was all the time.

Any one else see this behavior.

I have the feeling that firmware update is just a Band Aided and in reality, it is a real problem of the Motherboard's design.

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P.S. The PSU was plugged in all the time.

 

[JackMDS]

LOL.

So I just Flashed the new v14 (Thank you SerpentRoyal) and seem back to Normal again.

I have the feeling that some one was Drunk in Abit when they design the E version of this Mobo.

 

[nyker96]

they have a 14 BIOS out for this board. Maybe give that a try? Also this thing could be a compatibility issue with PSU you have, however I tried IP35-E on ANtec and ENhance PSUs not a problem.

 

[JackMDS]

LOL-II.

Once you switch Off the Power supply the StartUp Reset is back with BIOS V14 too.

Few weeks ago on another thread, I speculated that the IP3- E is plagued with design problems and that it would disappear from the Market.

Well it seems that the IP35-E starts to disappear and an IP35v is emerging instead.

Anyone got an IP35v?

 

[SerpentRoyal]

13 BIOS it not stable. Only 11 and 12 are officially released by Abit, although 14 has worked well for me. See my review in Abit IP35 thread.

The reset is inherent with all P965 and P35 chipsets. This is an Intel protocol. Turning off the PSU at the wall will initiate the boot strap detection and cause the famous double post at start with 13 and 14. If you shut down the PC without turning off the PSU, then PC will not double boot at the next start. It is possible that there is a problem with your PSU because an interruption of standby voltage will force strap re-detection. Finally, an unstable overclock can result in partial BIOS reset. I'm not aware of another user with the same problem.

IP35 and IP35-E use the same board and BIOS. IP35 adds the ICH9R soutbridge. There are plenty of IP35 and IP35 Pro at this time because most people don't need RAID. IP35 Pro doesn't double post due to the proprietary Guru software. At $60 to $70 AR, these boards don't stay on the store shelf for long...at least not at our B&M Fry's.

As I recalled, this is your 2nd board. What are the other issues with your current board?

Most design flaws surface within the first few days, especially PC boot-related anomalies. If you cannot duplicate the BIOS corruption issue on demand, then you should invest in a new PSU to see it the problem will go away. PC start is very demanding with a modern overclocked rig. Big in-rush current when you hit that power button.

A few Gigabyte boards are plagued with BIOS reset during cold boot. In your case, the BIOS info was okay.

 

[Heidfirst]

As SerpentRoyal says the "double boot" behaviour is inherent in the latest Intel chipsets as it's related to strap setting.
It's usually covered by some fancy BIOS footwork but it's always there under the surface & if something is slightly off it will reappear - plenty of e.g. Asus & Gigabyte users can attest to that too.

 

[JackMDS]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
As I recalled, this is your 2nd board. What are the other issues with your current board?

Yap this is already a replacement board. I got it few weeks ago set it to FSB 300 and it worked as a normal computer fro the last few weeks at 3GHz.

Then it started to act out, it is Not just the Double Start, I really do not care about the Double Start if it works otherwise OK.

However once these occurs there is a general instabilty and Video trouble even if I reduce it back to Default setting (FSB 200).

I'll try to reflash the BIOS and change the PSU.

Thanks every one for stepping in.:thumbsup:

 

[Denithor]

That sounds like something else may be amiss--the double boot issue does not cause general system instability. I know because I have one too, running bios 11 (haven't bothered to update yet) and have my e6400 OC to 3.0GHz. Double boots on every startup but runs with complete stability in Windows (XP Pro SP2 and newly installed Vista 64)

Are you monitoring temps (CoreTemp) of your processor? Have you tested your memory for errors (MemTest 86)? You might also run Orthos (large) to stress your system and see if something isn't right.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

I'm sure RAMs are okay but you may want to run Memtest86 to double check. I have not seen any report of short term degradation with IP35-E. If you can install and run windows for the 1st few days, then MB is probably okay. The odds of getting two consecutive defective MBs is very low.

The only confirmed defect in the US is bad solder solder joints at SATA ports. A few non-US boards also had problem posting below 18C (64F).

If your RAMs passed memtest, then I would check the software. Restore the as-loaded image file of the OS if possible. If okay, then I would check the PSU. An iffy PSU will definitely cause boot problem and general instability.

This is exactly what happened to two of my Antec SP350. Okay for the 1st few weeks. Then I get random BSOD. Next comes no/difficult POST. Finally, the PC will only boot for about 3 minutes, then shut down.

You can pickup an Antec Earthwatts 380 or 430 for $20 to $30 AR. Even those FREE Ultra-Xfinity units will run well with your rig. I was using an X-Finity 600 as my reference test PSU. It has been replaced by the Antec TP Trio 550 to reduce the electric bill. Note that older Trios may not work with some boards. Earthwatts is a very good unit if you can wait for a sale.