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Iowa GOP, you so crazy

dank69

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Latest PPP Poll:

Q31 Do you think the religion of Islam should be
legal or illegal in the United States?
Legal 49%
Illegal 30%
Not sure 21%

Q32 Do you agree or disagree with the following
statement: ‘President Obama is waging a war
on Christianity?’
Agree 69%
Disagree 17%
Not sure 14%

That is fucking fantastic. Freedom of religion in full effect.
 

JSt0rm

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Newell Steamer

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I have yet to see any war being waged on American Christians, by anyone, let alone the President.

If this isn't a sure sign of a brain defect (seeing a threat that does not exist), I don't know what is.
 

Atreus21

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Part of the christian faith is being persecuted. Its in the dna.

Considering the roots of Christianity, I'd say you're right.

Take the apostle Bartholomew for example.

Christian tradition has three stories about Bartholomew's death: "One speaks of his being kidnapped, beaten unconscious, and cast into the sea to drown. Another account states that he was crucified upside down, and another says that he was skinned alive and beheaded in Albac or Albanopolis",[20] near Başkale, Turkey.
 

Moonbeam

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Real Christianity, the teachings of Jesus, represent a moral advancement over Judaism because obedience to law will not get you into heaven. This fact always leads to persecution at the hands of the worshipers of legality. Truth holders are always persecuted by more ignorant people. Christians who are not saved by Grace, saved as opposed to imagining they have been, exhibit the paranoid persecution complex that is the inevitable result of imagining what it means to be a Christian, that you are Christ-like if you are persecuted and therefore seek it out. They, like the Jews before them, believe in paths that lead nowhere.
 

dank69

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Nearly 1 out of every 3 self-proclaimed defenders of the Constitution just wiped their ass with the First Amendment. More than half of the self-proclaimed defenders of the Constitution are at least considering wiping their ass with the First Amendment.
 

Genx87

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Nearly 1 out of every 3 self-proclaimed defenders of the Constitution just wiped their ass with the First Amendment. More than half of the self-proclaimed defenders of the Constitution are at least considering wiping their ass with the First Amendment.

It would be nice to see what democrat voters had to say on these topics from Public Policy. Appears to be missing.
 

Indus

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Sad thing is Islam hits a raw nerve with many people besides just conservatives.

Some of the most liberal people I know are scared of Islam. Why? How do you think Islam spread from a desert to Africa and South East Asia? Hint: It was not like Buddhism.

But that aside, to be totally paranoid and xenophobic to the point where all you see are Muslims everywhere creating problems.. that's just insane.

It's sorta like what they say in New York on TV commercials. If you see something.. say something, but clearly we have more issues affecting the people of the USA than just Islam at the moment. Islam is way down the list at #666.
 

JSt0rm

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religion is the most fucked up thing humns ever created. Its not just islam. They are all fucked.
 

realibrad

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Real Christianity, the teachings of Jesus, represent a moral advancement over Judaism because obedience to law will not get you into heaven. This fact always leads to persecution at the hands of the worshipers of legality. Truth holders are always persecuted by more ignorant people. Christians who are not saved by Grace, saved as opposed to imagining they have been, exhibit the paranoid persecution complex that is the inevitable result of imagining what it means to be a Christian, that you are Christ-like if you are persecuted and therefore seek it out. They, like the Jews before them, believe in paths that lead nowhere.

Then what does Matthew 5:17-20 mean if not obedience to law?

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Seem pretty clear that you must still follow the law.
 

dank69

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At least, according to this poll, most do not believe vaccines cause autism. Win some, lose some!
I bet liberals score worse on that question than conservatives. I dunno though, seems like anti-VAX nonsense crosses into libertarianism a lot, too.
 

Jhhnn

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Considering the roots of Christianity, I'd say you're right.

Take the apostle Bartholomew for example.

Or maybe he found his dream squeeze & they ran off to Abyssinia.

Any modern American Christian who believes that they're being persecuted has their head right square up their ass to the shoulders.

If their message fails to resonate with the population it's not because de ebil gubmint is holding them down.
 
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