Iowa congressman, family safe after home invasion

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spidey07

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MomentsofSanity said:
What "I" want private citizens to do is limit the use of deadly force the the means necessary to remove themselves or others from the threat of immediate harm. In this case the act of brandishing a firearm succeeded in accomplishing that goal. It needed not go further than that.

Don't even think to presume you can speak for what I want or what my actions would be.
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So you want duty to retreat?

Thankfully most states don't share this warped view where it is the victims responsibility to flee and as soon as somebody is in ones home unlawfully the home owner can shoot without regards to retreating or asking if criminal is just there to rape or rape and kill before deciding if deadly force is necessary.
 
Macamus Prime

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Leonard Boswell's Iowa farm ended when his 22-year-old grandson fetched a shotgun and aimed it at the intruder, according to a statement from the congressman's office. No one was seriously injured.
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MAH GAWD!! They let that thar introdar go!! Mah pepaw is spinnin in his grave-a!!!
 
BoberFett

BoberFett

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Macamus Prime said:
MAH GAWD!! They let that thar introdar go!! Mah pepaw is spinnin in his grave-a!!!
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Next time that intruder that they let go will probably start know better than to wait for someone to get a gun, and he'll start shooting first. That should give you your desired result. Macamus Prime won't be happy until the victims are dead.
 
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brencat

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Macamus Prime said:
And BoberFett won't be happy until the USA is a place where you can shoot anyone you don't like,... for any reason.
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I challenge you to find 1 post from Boberfett or anyone on these forums that favors concealed carry (myself included despite living in the People's Republic of NJ where CC is not permitted), that wants the freedom to shoot someone for any reason.

You are an idiot. Anyone who breaks into a home with a gun is not there to ask politely to borrow some sugar. They deserve whatever they get, including dead.
 
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Fear No Evil

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No accusations of this being a Tea Bagger yet? Man the liberals are slipping. I think the whole Democrat with a gun thing might have them all scrambled.
 
umbrella39

umbrella39

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I love the strawmen built in this thread from both sides. It's no wonder the IQ scale goes all the way down to zero. Keep up the good work men.
 
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Fear No Evil

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So could someone explain to me why he just didn't call the police and let them deal with the intruder? I thought that's why we had the police and why only they should have guns.
</Sarcasm>
 
shortylickens

shortylickens

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umbrella39 said:
I love the strawmen built in this thread from both sides. It's no wonder the IQ scale goes all the way down to zero. Keep up the good work men.
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Something I frequently notice in political gun threads is the second people start losing a logical argument they immediately resort to emotion. Am starting to regret making this thread now.
 
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ShawnD1

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HamburgerBoy said:
Sure they do. It's just that being a victim of violence is as likely as being struck by lightning while winning the lottery. Unless you live in the ghetto, but if you live there you deserve it anyways.
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??

I live in the burbs and my house was robbed before.
 
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Fear No Evil

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HamburgerBoy said:
Sure they do. It's just that being a victim of violence is as likely as being struck by lightning while winning the lottery. Unless you live in the ghetto, but if you live there you deserve it anyways.
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How many congressmen have we had struck by lightning while winning the lottery? because we have at least 1 congressman who has been a victim of a violent home invasion.. I suspect more.. so there has to be at least a half dozen who have been struck by lightning at the very least?
 
Macamus Prime

Macamus Prime

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brencat said:
I challenge you to find 1 post from Boberfett or anyone on these forums that favors concealed carry (myself included despite living in the People's Republic of NJ where CC is not permitted), that wants the freedom to shoot someone for any reason.

You are an idiot. Anyone who breaks into a home with a gun is not there to ask politely to borrow some sugar. They deserve whatever they get, including dead.
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And I challenge you to find 1 post from me where I want the victims to die.

I don't see you getting up in arms over him accusing me of wanting victims to die.
 
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OutHouse

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Fear No Evil said:
<Sarcasm>
So could someone explain to me why he just didn't call the police and let them deal with the intruder? I thought that's why we had the police and why only they should have guns.
</Sarcasm>
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im surprised "you know who" hasn't trolled this thread yet.
 
Macamus Prime

Macamus Prime

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BoberFett said:
You put words into people's mouth just as a matter of course, you sphincter suckling sack.
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I make fun of scared white people; not my problem of some of them are so fucking stupid from racism and inbreeding that they take my hyperbole ranting as "words into people's mouth".
 
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Craig234

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brencat said:
I challenge you to find 1 post from Boberfett or anyone on these forums that favors concealed carry (myself included despite living in the People's Republic of NJ where CC is not permitted), that wants the freedom to shoot someone for any reason.

You are an idiot. Anyone who breaks into a home with a gun is not there to ask politely to borrow some sugar. They deserve whatever they get, including dead.
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Let's put aside the issue of the morals of the killing of intruders other than self defense.

If we passed the 'no questions asked' policy, what would happen to the behavior of the intruders?

Now, let's say some might be deterred; that's good.

But those who aren't - and let's face it, probably few would be, because they're ALREADY facing a good chance of getting killed or a long jail sentence - have every reason to become far more likely to use deadly force themselves. Any confrontation is more likely to lead to them being killed, so they'll prefer to kill first.

Does this law really even lead to what you presumably want, safety for homeowners?
 
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Doboji

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Craig234 said:
Let's put aside the issue of the morals of the killing of intruders other than self defense.

If we passed the 'no questions asked' policy, what would happen to the behavior of the intruders?

Now, let's say some might be deterred; that's good.

But those who aren't - and let's face it, probably few would be, because they're ALREADY facing a good chance of getting killed or a long jail sentence - have every reason to become far more likely to use deadly force themselves. Any confrontation is more likely to lead to them being killed, so they'll prefer to kill first.

Does this law really even lead to what you presumably want, safety for homeowners?
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When someone breaks into my house where my family is, they put their life in my hands. It is now up to me to decide whether to shoot him or not. Both action or inaction should be absolutely legal.

That clears the way for me to act in the best interest of my family... That should be the ONLY consideration in this scenario. Period.
 
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