Interstates and Cruise Control

[Ichinisan]

I don't even see why people care so much. Pass in whatever lane is available. I pass in the right lane all the time. Who cares? Should I ignore the open right lane, insist on being in the left lane, then insist the guy in front of me mover over into the unused lane that I could be using to pass right now? That's just retarded.

It's supposed to be easier for someone to merge right because no one should be passing there. If you immediately pass on the right without giving that person a chance to signal and move over, you're part of the problem.

Can you show a diagram explaining what you're talking about? I live right next to 2 freeways and I have never encountered this problem.

Sounds like ignorance to me.

 

[Anubis]

Cruise control needs to be smarter. 2 cars both using cruise control shouldn't have to adjust frequently but they do, CC should be able to detect that fact and make minor adjustments.
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infinity has a system exactly as described in some of their cars, they have had it for at least 5 years if not longer, if you are on CC and come up to someone going slower your car will slow down to match their speed at a safe distance. if they move it speeds you back up

 

[ShawnD1]

Sounds like ignorance to me.

In other words you have no idea what you're talking about. I ask a simple question about how people being in the right lane blocks me from getting into the right lane and you completely shut down and don't provide an answer.

There's no way driving schools in the US teach this kind of bullshit. So much of it is nonsense. Can only pass in the left lane? So if there's a guy doing 10mph in the left lane, you should stay in the left lane behind him and the people in the right lane should not pass him? So now you could potentially slow down 6 lanes of traffic to 10mph just because 1 guy is going that speed? What if Engineer does his classic "stop in the middle of the road" trick in the left lane? All lanes of traffic stop?
This whole "can't get into the right lane" thing is stupid too. You signal, you go. If there's somebody already there, you slow down slightly and cut off the person behind the guy next to you. He should have seen your signal by this time, so he's already prepared for the cut off. People either get out of the way or they get slammed.

I remember talking to a few Americans who were visiting Canada. They said the drivers were "worse" but there was a general lack of road rage. Cutting people off and passing on the right is expected, so nobody gets angry. You do what it takes to get where you want to go. It's a uniquely American thing to expect everyone else to cooperate with you then get angry when it doesn't work like that (hint: it NEVER works like that, see: walmart)

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/683867/road-rage-not-a-problem-in-canada-eh

 

[Engineer]

You know what pisses me off... when people brake check you. It has to be the most inane thing I've ever heard of (and encountered).

Never said anything about brake checking...but, it's your responsibility to keep a safe following distance and if you can't stop when someone slams on the brakes, it's your fault. Again, never said anything about brake checking nor do I practice it so if that's directed towards me, direct it in the other direction. I would rather not try to have stupid ass tailgaters hit me if at all possible. I'll slow down in a nice, orderly manner to give them a chance to pass. If they refuse, I'll slow down more until they back off...simple as that. Back off and I'll speed back up.

As to ShawnD, fuck off. I am one of the most courteous drivers on the street....until you try to piss me off. You're the one instigating by thinking you can punish people which you don't like the way they drive. It's not your fucking job so go the fuck on and quit being a douche.

 

[Ichinisan]

In other words you have no idea what you're talking about. I ask a simple question about how people being in the right lane blocks me from getting into the right lane and you completely shut down and don't provide an answer.

There's no way driving schools in the US teach this kind of bullshit. So much of it is nonsense. Can only pass in the left lane? So if there's a guy doing 10mph in the left lane, you should stay in the left lane behind him and the people in the right lane should not pass him? So now you could potentially slow down 6 lanes of traffic to 10mph just because 1 guy is going that speed? What if Engineer does his classic "stop in the middle of the road" trick in the left lane? All lanes of traffic stop?
This whole "can't get into the right lane" thing is stupid too. You signal, you go. If there's somebody already there, you slow down slightly and cut off the person behind the guy next to you. He should have seen your signal by this time, so he's already prepared for the cut off. People either get out of the way or they get slammed.

I remember talking to a few Americans who were visiting Canada. They said the drivers were "worse" but there was a general lack of road rage. Cutting people off and passing on the right is expected, so nobody gets angry. You do what it takes to get where you want to go. It's a uniquely American thing to expect everyone else to cooperate with you then get angry when it doesn't work like that (hint: it NEVER works like that, see: walmart)

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/683867/road-rage-not-a-problem-in-canada-eh

I said *if* you don't allow the person a chance to signal and get over, *then* you are part of the problem. By accelerating and zooming around without hesitation, you make it more difficult / dangerous for him to get over and get out of your way. I bet you usually don't even signal when you zoom around on the right without hesitation (though you probably wouldn't admit). I never said you should let some 10mph person in the passing/fast lane hold you up. I said you should give them an opportunity to get out of the way first.

If you don't understand that, you're part of the problem.

[edit]
...and there *are* laws about passing on the right. I'm still not saying "you should never EVER do it." Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[BornStar]

[edit]
...and there *are* laws about passing on the right. I'm still not saying "you should never EVER do it." Don't put words in my mouth.

I'd like to see one of those laws. I have yet to find a state in which it's actually illegal to pass on the right as long as there is a legal lane there. Assuming your location is correct, you live in a state which permits passing on the right.

TITLE 40. MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
CHAPTER 6. UNIFORM RULES OF THE ROAD
ARTICLE 3. DRIVING ON RIGHT SIDE OF ROADWAY, OVERTAKING AND PASSING, FOLLOWING TOO CLOSELY


O.C.G.A. § 40-6-43 (2011)

§ 40-6-43. When overtaking and passing on the right permitted


(a) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:

(1) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn; or

(2) Upon a street or highway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lanes of moving vehicles in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.

(b) If otherwise authorized, the driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway.

 

[Bacstar]

infinity has a system exactly as described in some of their cars, they have had it for at least 5 years if not longer, if you are on CC and come up to someone going slower your car will slow down to match their speed at a safe distance. if they move it speeds you back up

Adaptive Cruise Control...my 2012 Chrysler came with this. It looks like it has a radar sensor in the front right next to my right foglight. Also, as part of that system, has a FCW- Forward Collision Warning alarm that goes off if it senses a stopped or slow moving vehicle in front of me.

 

[Ichinisan]

I'd like to see one of those laws. I have yet to find a state in which it's actually illegal to pass on the right as long as there is a legal lane there. Assuming your location is correct, you live in a state which permits passing on the right.

TITLE 40. MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
CHAPTER 6. UNIFORM RULES OF THE ROAD
ARTICLE 3. DRIVING ON RIGHT SIDE OF ROADWAY, OVERTAKING AND PASSING, FOLLOWING TOO CLOSELY


O.C.G.A. § 40-6-43 (2011)

§ 40-6-43. When overtaking and passing on the right permitted


(a) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:

(1) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn; or

(2) Upon a street or highway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lanes of moving vehicles in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.

(b) If otherwise authorized, the driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway.

Thank you for supporting my statement that there are laws regarding passing on the right.

 

[BornStar]

Thank you for supporting my statement that there are laws regarding passing on the right.

Yeah, and other than the fact that they're explicitly stated, they're identical to the laws about passing on the left.

This "passing on the right is illegal" thing is getting really old. There are only a few special cases where it would be illegal and those special cases are the same cases where it's illegal to pass on the left.

 

[cronos]

Yeah, and other than the fact that they're explicitly stated, they're identical to the laws about passing on the left.

This "passing on the right is illegal" thing is getting really old. There are only a few special cases where it would be illegal and those special cases are the same cases where it's illegal to pass on the left.

Hang on there for a second.

So am I right in assuming that all you guys here who believe that passing on the right is completely fine are basically arguing that OP's complaint is without merit and he should not be upset?

 

[BornStar]

Hang on there for a second.

So am I right in assuming that all you guys here who believe that passing on the right is completely fine are basically arguing that OP's complaint is without merit and he should not be upset?

Certainly not, people that hang out in the left lane cause problems for me every day and I make sure to vacate it as soon as I'm not passing someone.

However,

 

[Aikouka]

Never said anything about brake checking...

I know, but your post reminded me of it!

but, it's your responsibility to keep a safe following distance and if you can't stop when someone slams on the brakes, it's your fault.

Isn't brake checking illegal anyway? Although, I would assume it's nigh impossible to prove that someone actually did it when they could easily say that they "saw something in the road."

The last time it happened to me, technically the other guy was at fault to begin with. If I remember correctly, Alabama state law says that you have to yield to faster traffic in the left lane. I was in the left lane, and the guy cuts in front of me (so he could pass the car that was in the right lane), but he's going 5 MPH slower than me. Right there, he failed to yield to me as existing traffic in the left lane.

It was made even worse by the fact that he had already passed the guy in the right lane when he decided to brake check me. So, rather than be an idiot and try to cause an accident, he should have just moved the hell over. I ended up having to do the wrong thing and pass him on the right, because he refused to move over.

I hate driving around here. I received a pamphlet for some guy running for a local government office, and inside he detailed his plan to work on the traffic problems in the city. Unsurprisingly, he seemed to have no idea what the actual problems are, and the only solution is, "make roads wider! gotta be wider!" While wider lanes is part of the solution, the biggest issue is the lack of turn lanes in certain places and awful traffic light programming.

 

[OutHouse]

Sounds like ignorance to me.

why you got to be a prick? it was a simple question.

Ignorance = not knowing. so we are all ignorant of what you were trying to explain.

 

[OutHouse]

Hang on there for a second.

So am I right in assuming that all you guys here who believe that passing on the right is completely fine are basically arguing that OP's complaint is without merit and he should not be upset?

dude this is not Europe. passing on the right is not against the law.

colorado take on it.

http://www.mesalek.com/colo/facts.html

Passing: Passing on the right legal when there are two or more lanes in one direction. No passing on the shoulder.

 

[dmcowen674]

Of course, there are exceptions, like no one else is on the road or behind you, bad weather or road conditions prohibit you from moving out of the left lane, etc., etc.....all common sense things, but given your history, common sense is commonly lacking.


Slower traffic keep left on interstates is a law in damned near every state I've driven in, and that includes Illinois---where I drove through two weeks ago driving from MA to WI and back again. *Saw more than a few of those signs (Slower traffic keep right) on the interstate in IL.

Most of the Interstates around Chicago are three lane and all three lanes jammed up with cars.

If the left was used for passing only no one would get anywhere.

 

[cronos]

dude this is not Europe. passing on the right is not against the law.

colorado take on it.

http://www.mesalek.com/colo/facts.html

Passing: Passing on the right legal when there are two or more lanes in one direction. No passing on the shoulder.

We've established what you think about it.

My question was, do you think OP was wrong to be upset because he could easily just pass on the right?

 

[BornStar]

We've established what you think about it.

My question was, do you think OP was wrong to be upset because he could easily just pass on the right?

I know I already answered you but I never stated that he could just as easily pass on the right, I stated that he could just as legally pass on the right. There's actually a very big difference.

 

[FoBoT]

Also, this thread will have at least 200 replies.

its taking longer than i thought it would, but it has staying power

 

[CZroe]

The 60 mph driver and of course the 65 mph drivers are all breaking the law.

The law does not state that drivers not breaking the law have to move over for law breakers.

Try again.

Except that it does: I didn't write that. It came from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's website on "Keep Right Laws."

If you are going the speed limit when those around you want to go faster, do it as far to the right as possible unless passing. Got it? Make the road sager and let the other people get their tickets. My philosophy is that I have a right to be there as long as I am traveling faster than the lane to my right because it *is* a passing lane. If someone wants to pass me, I move over as soon as I find an opening and let them.

 

[Phoenix86]

Except that it does: I didn't write that. It came from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's website on "Keep Right Laws."

If you are going the speed limit when those around you want to go faster, do it as far to the right as possible unless passing. Got it? Make the road sager and let the other people get their tickets. My philosophy is that I have a right to be there as long as I am traveling faster than the lane to my right because it *is* a passing lane. If someone wants to pass me, I move over as soon as I find an opening and let them.

I quoted him the statute from his state and bolded the relevant section. He'll continue to ignore facts and be a highway hero saving us from those nasty speeders!