Internet Tax update - House votes to...

CPA

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ban it permenantly. Also, any state that now has an internet tax must repeal their law.

Good for the House. Good job House Republicans.

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SuperTool

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Yes, great job House Republicans, undermining a revenue source for states in deficits, and putting local brick and mortar businesses at a competitive disadvantage.
 

dmcowen674

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Thanks for the Update CPA

"The tax moratorium applies to all methods of Internet access, including pricier high-speed links taxed by some states."

Looks like Florida will have to find something else to Tax 19% on. They shouldn't try Coffee, Seattle just voted that attempt down. Used to be that Politicians went after "Sin" taxes but they have apparently run out of Sin items to Tax so they are now resorting to "non-sin" things to Tax.

Robin Hood, Where art thou?
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Yes, great job House Republicans, undermining a revenue source for states in deficits, and putting local brick and mortar businesses at a competitive disadvantage.

You raise a good point SuperTool, but I feel I am taxed enough. Perhaps if our country did not have such a large budget towards defense, we would be better off in terms of deficits.
 

308nato

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Yes, great job House Republicans, undermining a revenue source for states in deficits, and putting local brick and mortar businesses at a competitive disadvantage.


States in deficit should consider spending less before taxing more. I do feel sorry for the B&M stores though. Wal-Mart, Target, K-mart, Lowes, Home depot etc. will never survive now. Oh, but I guess you meant the ma and pa stores that few people shop in after your local government gave huge tax breaks to aforementioned corporate behemoths to move in.

 

SuperTool

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Actually they are talking about internet access, not internet commerce ;) Just read the link.
Even less reason for the Feds to get involved, since it's not interstate commerce. But 308nato, I don't think the Federal Government should be telling states what they can and cannot tax unless there is interstate commerce involved.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Actually they are talking about internet access, not internet commerce ;) Just read the link.
Even less reason for the Feds to get involved, since it's not interstate commerce. But 308nato, I don't think the Federal Government should be telling states what they can and cannot tax unless there is interstate commerce involved.

yep, you are right SuperTool.

One thing I don't get. If this is true:

"However, the ban would not apply to online sales taxes, which are already prohibited under a Supreme Court decision unless the retailer has a substantial in-state presence. "

Why then are some companies starting to collect sales tax in states they don't have a presence. I know that they are doing it voluntarily, but why?


Oh, and your first comment I couldn't disagree with you more ;) stop spending if you can't afford it.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Actually they are talking about internet access, not internet commerce ;) Just read the link.
Even less reason for the Feds to get involved, since it's not interstate commerce. But 308nato, I don't think the Federal Government should be telling states what they can and cannot tax unless there is interstate commerce involved.

yep, you are right SuperTool.

One thing I don't get. If this is true:

"However, the ban would not apply to online sales taxes, which are already prohibited under a Supreme Court decision unless the retailer has a substantial in-state presence. "

Why then are some companies starting to collect sales tax in states they don't have a presence. I know that they are doing it voluntarily, but why?


Oh, and your first comment I couldn't disagree with you more ;) stop spending if you can't afford it.

I don't think it's the Federal government's job to tell states what to spend and what to tax. If state voters approve state spending or tax bills, the feds should stay out of it. We don't need Washington telling us how to run our state after they themselves are running a 500B deficit. After giving states tonnes of unfunded mandates, then they come in and undermine the states ability to pay for those mandates.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Actually they are talking about internet access, not internet commerce ;) Just read the link.
Even less reason for the Feds to get involved, since it's not interstate commerce. But 308nato, I don't think the Federal Government should be telling states what they can and cannot tax unless there is interstate commerce involved.

yep, you are right SuperTool.

One thing I don't get. If this is true:

"However, the ban would not apply to online sales taxes, which are already prohibited under a Supreme Court decision unless the retailer has a substantial in-state presence. "

Why then are some companies starting to collect sales tax in states they don't have a presence. I know that they are doing it voluntarily, but why?


Oh, and your first comment I couldn't disagree with you more ;) stop spending if you can't afford it.

I don't think it's the Federal government's job to tell states what to spend and what to tax. If state voters approve state spending or tax bills, the feds should stay out of it. We don't need Washington telling us how to run our state after they themselves are running a 500B deficit. After giving states tonnes of unfunded mandates, then they come in and undermine the states ability to pay for those mandates.

I agree, but I prefer states to stop spending instead of always looking for something else to tax.
 

Piano Man

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I"m not sure what to think. Right now I enjoy no tax, but I can see how this will cripple states in the future.
 

gistech1978

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so is this the universal DSL tax or whatever that shows up on my bill?
there are about 7 or 8 different taxes and fees levied every month.
 

308nato

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Originally posted by: gistech1978
so is this the universal DSL tax or whatever that shows up on my bill?
there are about 7 or 8 different taxes and fees levied every month.

No, thats the tax not approved by Congress you pay to supposedly get internet access to every shack in the country.

Edit: The Universal Connectivity Charge is what is on my Verizon bill.
 

gistech1978

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okay. crap, gotta keep paying that.
thank you for the reply.

i guess its worked since i have internet at my shack.
:confused:
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Actually they are talking about internet access, not internet commerce ;) Just read the link.
Even less reason for the Feds to get involved, since it's not interstate commerce. But 308nato, I don't think the Federal Government should be telling states what they can and cannot tax unless there is interstate commerce involved.

yep, you are right SuperTool.

One thing I don't get. If this is true:

"However, the ban would not apply to online sales taxes, which are already prohibited under a Supreme Court decision unless the retailer has a substantial in-state presence. "

Why then are some companies starting to collect sales tax in states they don't have a presence. I know that they are doing it voluntarily, but why?


Oh, and your first comment I couldn't disagree with you more ;) stop spending if you can't afford it.

I don't think it's the Federal government's job to tell states what to spend and what to tax. If state voters approve state spending or tax bills, the feds should stay out of it. We don't need Washington telling us how to run our state after they themselves are running a 500B deficit. After giving states tonnes of unfunded mandates, then they come in and undermine the states ability to pay for those mandates.

I agree, but I prefer states to stop spending instead of always looking for something else to tax.

That is a decision each individual state can do for themselves, without having the feds dictate it to them.