Internet Access, Serious Business

olds

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Don't get between a girl and her facebook.

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/03/5088896/shakes-were-spiked-cops-say.html

Two Placer County teenage girls were arrested for allegedly using drugged milkshakes to knock out the parents of one of the girls so they could log on to the Internet, Rocklin police said.

Internet access at the Rocklin home was routinely shut off at 10 p.m., said Lt. Lon Milka, a department spokesman.

Milka said that on Friday evening, a 15-year-old girl – who had a 16-year-old friend from Roseville visiting – offered to pick up milkshakes from a local fast-food restaurant for her parents.

The parents drank about a quarter of the milkshakes but didn't finish them, saying they tasted funny and were grainy, Milka said.

But the shakes – loaded with prescription sleep aids allegedly provided by the friend – were effective, and the parents quickly fell asleep.

They awoke at 1 a.m. with unexplained hangover symptoms, but went back to sleep. In the morning, with the headache and grogginess still present, they went to the Rocklin police station to pick up a drug test kit, Milka said.

"Many parents buy them and have their kids' urine tested," Milka said. But in this case, they used the $5 kit to test themselves, he said.

When the parents tested positive, they alerted the police, and the girls were taken to juvenile hall.

"The girls wanted to use the Internet, and they'd go to whatever means they had to," Milka said.

What the girls did on the Internet that night is not yet clear, Milka said.

"For our investigation, that wasn't as important as the drugging with the milkshake," Milka said.

It's also unclear whether someone manually shut off wireless Internet access each night at 10 p.m. or it happened automatically.

A little bit of adolescent pushback, as teens begin to express their individuality, is good, said Leslie Whitten Baughman, a child therapist with a practice in Sacramento. But drugging your parents "would not be a healthy level of rebellion."

The 15-year-old told police that her parents' Internet policy was "too strict," Milka said.

Teens often fear being left out of "once-in-a-lifetime" events, which they might experience on the Internet, said Gordon Richards, executive director of EMQ FamiliesFirst, a children's social services nonprofit.

While the alleged actions seem extreme, Richards said it's important to note that the human brain is still developing in teen years – helping to explain the apparent lack of judgment.

Milka said he's never seen anything like the Rocklin case.

The teens were arrested on charges of conspiracy and willfully mingling a pharmaceutical with food.

"If they were adults, they could be facing prison time," Milka said.

He said the girls were arrested as juveniles and that it would be up to the District Attorney's Office to decide if the crime justifies adult punishment. Because the girls are juveniles, their names are not being released to the media.

Milka said he didn't know how long they were in custody or whether they had been released.
 

lxskllr

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See? facebook rots the brain. Of all the potential solutions to the problem, they picked one of the worst. If they used their brains more they'd have come up with something better.
 

Broheim

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pretty messed up. but restricting a 15 year old's internet access... what is that supposed to accomplish?
 

lupi

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Probably a needed limit given the resulting attempt to circumvate.
 

ch33zw1z

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pretty messed up. but restricting a 15 year old's internet access... what is that supposed to accomplish?

like calvin said, boundaries and rules of the house. my son will have the same rules. Turn 18, move out, buy your own internet and browse it to your hearts content.
 

apac

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"Here mom and dad, we made you both milk shakes! Go ahead, try them! Oh, they taste grainy? I don't know what that is all about... /snicker snicker"

I can't believe they bought it.
 

manimal

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parents just dont seem to realize its too late at that age to change a child. The really hard work in the trenches happens in the terrible twos and three and comes together when the kids first get socialized. They are essentially being initialized into societal norms and a distortion event or crisis can lead to warped realities where things like this can happen.
 

Broheim

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Setting boundaries and rules of the house....

Same as a curfew.

like calvin said, boundaries and rules of the house. my son will have the same rules. Turn 18, move out, buy your own internet and browse it to your hearts content.

arbitrary boundaries and rules are fine and all... when dealing with a child.
a 15 year old is perfectly capable of understanding the reasoning (or lack thereof) behind rules, I'm not saying they aren't selfish little douchebags who can some times have trouble with understanding the consequences of their actions but throwing a bunch arbitrary rules in their faces will cause nothing but resentment and a complete disregard for any of your rules, even the ones that make sense.
Teenagers need to fuck up and learn from their mistakes while you're still around to help them, but breaking a rule and getting caught will teach them nothing more than not to get caught the next time.

I'm not saying there isn't a point to the no internet after 10 rule, which is why my original question was what exactly does it accomplish.
 

RedRooster

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"Here mom and dad, we made you both milk shakes! Go ahead, try them! Oh, they taste grainy? I don't know what that is all about... /snicker snicker"

I can't believe they bought it.

Reminds me of Lloyd giving Harry the tea in Dumb and Dumber. "Go on, drink up!"
:D
 

IronWing

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The discussion between the two parents must have been interesting.

"Our child drugged us."
"We'll have to kill her."
"We better call the police."
"Why?"
"Because otherwise we'll kill her."
"How is that a bad idea?"
"We'll spend of our lives in jail for killing her."
"Good point. We'll call the police before we kill her."
"Maybe afterward."
"I'll call right now before we change our minds."
"Yes, do that."
...
"Can we kill her friend anyway?"
"I already called the police."
"Rats."
 

ch33zw1z

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arbitrary boundaries and rules are fine and all... when dealing with a child.
a 15 year old is perfectly capable of understanding the reasoning (or lack thereof) behind rules, I'm not saying they aren't selfish little douchebags who can some times have trouble with understanding the consequences of their actions but throwing a bunch arbitrary rules in their faces will cause nothing but resentment and a complete disregard for any of your rules, even the ones that make sense.
Teenagers need to fuck up and learn from their mistakes while you're still around to help them, but breaking a rule and getting caught will teach them nothing more than not to get caught the next time.

I'm not saying there isn't a point to the no internet after 10 rule, which is why my original question was what exactly does it accomplish.

I want to be in bed by 10. So for me, it will keep my son from having unfettered access to that cesspool we call the internet, while I'm in bed. Teenagers did fuck up, and got caught. Everyone learns differently. Teenagers don't necessarily want you around to help them with their mistakes either.
 
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KeithP

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I'm not saying there isn't a point to the no internet after 10 rule, which is why my original question was what exactly does it accomplish.

Numerous studies have indicated that teenagers aren't getting enough sleep. Being on the internet after 10PM would certainly contribute to that. Good enough for you?

As adults, people face "arbitrary" rules all the time. They need to learn they don't get to break them just because they feel they have a good reason without consequence. These idiots could have killed the parents.

I will agree that these two girls already have a short in their thought process. Personally, if that was my kid, I would give the child a choice, she can live by her own rules and she can plan to be out of the house, on her own, on her 18th birthday or she could live by my rules and retain family support.

The psychobabble in this article suggesting that these girls actions are somehow understand is ridiculous.

-KeithP