Internet 2

edjam

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I've only recently heard about the Internet 2, which I hear the US govn., US Military and educational establishments are developing with massive bandwidth. Are there any projections to what the bandwidth will be around?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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That's what the internet was originally designed for: colleges linked together, and military. This isn't a sequel, it's a come-back-kid.

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Sir Fredrick

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I2 (I II?) is a good idea in theory, but from what I've read technology is advancing so quickly that in many cases there is more bandwidth available on the net than there would be on I 2.
 

vash

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Internet2 (I2) isn't just about bandwidth, but about much more control as to what can/will happen on the net. The bandwidth part makes the I2 significantly more appealing to everyone (more than one entire CD can be xferred in one second), but for the government and medicial facilities, the I2 is going to be key.

With I2, each packet will be given a priority level. So when a Dr. in California needs a record from Florida, they can trigger their call as a higher priority packet not only to get the information first, but be 99.9% sure the packets were sent out first and came back first. During this time, our web surfing will essentially be on the "back burner", since there really is no priority set to us. Will we notice this at all? Probably not. We simply won't notice because of the significant more bandwidth available to everyone. I2's been in testing for a few years and everyone at the Universities that know of I2 are pretty happy with how fast things are.

I2 will eventually hit everyone (yay!), but I'm not even sure of the ramifications of I2 on the rest of the world.

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<< Internet2 (I2) isn't just about bandwidth, but about much more control as to what can/will happen on the net. The bandwidth part makes the I2 significantly more appealing to everyone (more than one entire CD can be xferred in one second), but for the government and medicial facilities, the I2 is going to be key.

With I2, each packet will be given a priority level. So when a Dr. in California needs a record from Florida, they can trigger their call as a higher priority packet not only to get the information first, but be 99.9% sure the packets were sent out first and came back first. During this time, our web surfing will essentially be on the "back burner", since there really is no priority set to us. Will we notice this at all? Probably not. We simply won't notice because of the significant more bandwidth available to everyone. I2's been in testing for a few years and everyone at the Universities that know of I2 are pretty happy with how fast things are.

I2 will eventually hit everyone (yay!), but I'm not even sure of the ramifications of I2 on the rest of the world.

vash
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Yes, I'm sure that I2 will be put to great use on campus's around the country where plucky young college students can now play CS free of any ping worries and can download more porn, faster. ;)
 

Jfur

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Internet2 is *not* a replacement Internet. It is not even defined by physical infrastructure. It is a group of institutions (academic) and corporate sponsors that are creating a testbed for future networked services -- Internet2

Many of these services wil probably be implemented in networks of the future.

vash -- I think it is already partly international :) Certainly any spinoff technologies could have global implications

As far as priority levels, Internet2 successfully tested IPv6 last year -- as you suggest, one of the major things about Iternet2 is that they have complete comtrol over which standards are implemented (unlike the Internet itself, where there are gazillion people who would have to agree to do something, use the same protocols, etc.)
 

DaveJ

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I2 rocks! :D We use it at the uni where I work to teach a class with our sister university in Mexico City...

Our network admin here sent out this message a few weeks ago:

"During a demonstration of uncompressed HDTV over IP at a recent Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency workshop, over 900 terabytes of data were transmitted at 1.5 gigabits per second over 18 continuous hours across more than 2700 miles of network without a single dropped packet."

:Q :D

Gotta love fast pipes!

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edjam

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Thx guys, hmm, sounds cool. So if my logic isn't too twisted, if all the academic institutions are going over to I2, would that mean a less loaded net for us.
 

DaveJ

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You can only route traffic over I2 that is destined for another I2 site. You can't route regular I1 traffic over I2. So the Net won't be any faster for I1 sites...

Dave
 

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<< Thx guys, hmm, sounds cool. So if my logic isn't too twisted, if all the academic institutions are going over to I2, would that mean a less loaded net for us. >>



No, they are not using it for their normal traffic -- they are using it to test new services and technologies which will spin off into the market :)
 
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MY school is part of Internet2 - UCLA.

I really dont know much about IPv6, but Ive heard it will have room for trillions of IP addresses so even your watch could have its own IP :)