Internal Hiring.

[melchoir]

Recently my company has had an opening for a position.
Initially they were seeking an internal candidate and after receiving resumes for all parties applying, they posted externally for the position.

The external candidates were reviewed, and now they have come to me.

The Director of IT, as well as the Senior Engineer had a meeting with me, basically asking if I was interested in the position still, as I was clearly the candidate of choice for this position. I expressed my interest, and as their minds were clearly made, as long as I accept, I will have this position.

The problem occurs where as I am currently an hourly employee. Currently my base pay is not that great, but the position I am in has a certain amount of required overtime which makes my actual pay much more significant.

The Director noted that the pay gap between these two positions is great, and that there will be some difficulty getting me the standard pay for that position. He has said he was going to work on that, by speaking with our HR Director and his supervisor. (Part of our mother company).

He has not yet made a verbal or written offer including any hard figures, which I expect this week. The new position is also a Salary position, with some required overtime(non-paid) as well.


For HR Managers: How many companies have policies that won't allow such a salary "jump" by internal employees? What are the best ways to get around this? I don't have much confidence in my director, I feel he would try to screw me if possible.

The internal info I have on this situation lets me know that there are no other candidates that are remotely qualified for this position. The external postings were not generating the caliber of people that this position requires. I also know that this position must be filled very quickly as there's currently a one man team that's reaching it's breaking point with no backup.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

That's bull. If you're qualified for the job, you're qualified for the salary whether it's a significant jump or not. Stand up for yourself!

 

[melchoir]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
That's bull. If you're qualified for the job, you're qualified for the salary whether it's a significant jump or not. Stand up for yourself!

I plan on it. I will not accept it if they cannot get within MY "range" for this position.

 

[randomint]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
That's bull. If you're qualified for the job, you're qualified for the salary whether it's a significant jump or not. Stand up for yourself!

damn right. if you think you truly are qualified for this position which i think you are then you need to exercise some muscle and demand that higher pay.

you should already know by now that the reason they came to you is BECAUSE you were qualified. they WANT you. internal hiring is almost always better for employers because of the near-zero productivity of a new employee and the long learning curve.

they would ALWAYS prefer you over an outsider. in this case, you are in control. simple as that.

 

[kranky]

We have no policy that keeps people from getting what a job is worth because it might be "too much" of an increase. Each job has a salary range and the lowest you can get paid is the minimum for that job.

I had one guy go from an hourly position to a salaried position with a 50% increase in base pay. He had been working a lot of overtime in the hourly job and we figured he should get at least what he made the previous year (including overtime) plus a 10% increase for taking the new job. He still works about the same amount of hours as a salaried person though.

Ask: if you had applied as an external candidate with the exact same skills you have, would they have any problem giving you the standard pay for that position? How is it fair that they would deny you that only because they happen to know what you are making now?