Interlaced VC-1

[Anteaus]

Does anyone have any advice on how to get a interlaced VC-1 bluray source into a format that Handbrake can work with? I have MakeMKV but the files always end up with screwed up video. MakeMKV works great most of the time but I've run into a small handful of discs where it can't do the job.

I'm willing to get AnyDVD HD if I can get confirmation that it would solve the problem. I can't test it because i used up my trial time a few months ago .

 

[sdifox]

anydvd hd has nothing to do with the problem you are having.


I thought handbrake has a de-interlace option?

or are you saying the rip is screwed up?

try dvd fab if the latter.

 

[Anteaus]

Yes the rip is screwed up. For whatever reason MakeMKV can't deal with whatever the source codec is. I'll look into DVDFab this afternoon. Thanks.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Try demuxing the streams with something like eac3to and remux the elementaries to whatever. I had the same problem ripping and converting vc-1 hd-dvds to h.264 mkvs. I think it'll automatically take care of the 3:2 pulldown, or whatever it is that was hosing my encodes.

 

[Anteaus]

Just ripped it with DVDFab. Had the exact same problem that occured with MakeMKV. The disc rips fine and plays fine on the player so all I can guess is some sort of DRM or a codec problem.

Thanks for the advice Goober. I'll give that a try when I get a chance.

 

[Gooberlx2]

I think you definitely need at least anydvd hd to defeat the drm first, if that's what the issue is.

 

[smitbret]

Tough to know what's happening based on the description "screwed up video".

Can you describe it any better?

 

[Anteaus]

The image starts fine, but very quickly degrades into a pixelly mess with irregular frame rates. The amount of video degradation varies. Also, the amount of corrupted screen seems to vary..sometimes the entire frame is fine...sometimes its down to 10%. The frame rate is easily down to 10-15 FPS..similar to old video game videos from the early 90s. I'm not sure how to post an image otherwise I would.

 

[smitbret]

I'm also a little confused about your rips. First post says the rips are screwed up and then you say you used DVDFab and the the disc rips fine and plays fine on the player. When you say it rips fine, it means the process completes without an error, right? But playback of the rip is all messed up?

 

[Anteaus]

I have successfully ripped successfully with MakeMkv and DVDFab. In both cases, the final product has exactly the same symptoms. Considering I'm getting zero read errors and the disc plays fine itself, I can only presume one of three things.

1. VLC/WMP can't handle the required codec properly and thus hampers playback.
2. DVDFab and MakeMKV can't properly handle the codec.
3. There is some sort of new DRM.

The DVDFab rip ultimately gave me m2ts (AVCHD) files and MakeMKV gave me MKV. This is the bluray Red Dwarf Back to Earth. The only other title that gave me similar complications is the BBC Life bluray set. Could it be something to do specifically with how the BBC encodes their video?

 

[smitbret]

BBC Life ripped fine for me.

I used AnyDVD HD running in the background and ripped the streams from the playlist(s) using TsMuxer. I converted them down with Handbrake after ripping. No problems with any of the steps along the way.

Are using the deinterlace or decomb filter with Handbrake and are you setting it to variable framerate instead of 23.976 constant framerate?

 

[Anteaus]

BBC Life ripped fine for me.

Are using the deinterlace or decomb filter with Handbrake and are you setting it to variable framerate instead of 23.976 constant framerate?

My problem is the rip itself. As for Life, I only had problems with one of the episodes. I'm away from home right now for work otherwise I would tell you exactly which. It's the source files that are the problem.

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=50768

I found this where the problem was codecs. When I get home I'll try that and see what happens.

 

[docbillnet]

It is a little sad. Here it is about three years since the original post and VC1 is still a pain in the neck. Handbrake won't recognize it at all in a blue ray. If you open the m2ts directly you horrible macro blocking... VLC can't play it without horrible macro blocking. After trying many different software packages, the only free one that I found that can convert Red Dwarf to Earth and Back without macro blocking is BDtoAVCHD. There is of course probably other programs that can do this as well. But I had to try a half dozen programs just to find this one...

Unfortunately BDtoAVCHD can't do deinterlacing, so I've had to first convert to mkv at a extremely high quality, and then re-encode a second time with handbrake...

Bill

 

[smitbret]

NVM, didn't realize this was a necroed thread I had responded to a year ago.

 

[jharle]

docbillnet, what settings are you using in Handbrake for the deinterlacing filter? I'm having a helluva time with a 1920x1080i VC-1 source...I can't eliminate stuttering on original playback, and "macro blocking" on transcoded playback.

 

[docbillnet]

jharle, if you are still looking for the answer... When I copy the vc1 interlaced video with BDtoAVCHD or RipBot264 version 1.15.0, I copy save the video to insane quality. Like quality factor 10, and the copy the audio track directly with no conversion. (RipBot allows this if your output is mkv.) Then for Handbrake I have a standard 1080p profile I use. I modify that for 1080i by setting the deinterlace option to slowest. Because I kept the raw audio, there is no loss of quality in the audio. Generally in the final mkv I keep convert the audio to AAC and 160 kbps, and do a second track with the original audio pass through. Most of my devices will use the pass through audio, so it is the same as the original. No stuttering. The video seems to come out very clean as well, with no macro-blocking I can detect.

Another option that also works is Leawo's free video converter can convert interlaced vc1 without issues. It takes about 1/3 the time as doing a double conversion. When I play the videos side by side, both look to be identical quality. However, I'm still doing the dvdfab -> makemkv -> ribbot264 -> handbrake approach to convert my Torchwood blu-rays as I find the mkv files produced by Leowo's nearly twice as large and there is no pass through audio, just AAC stereo audio.