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JohnOfSheffield said:
1. LOL, you don't think i already know about that? I'm talking about the gassing of the Kurds that was done two days ago while they were celebrating their biggest win ever in Turkey. I've read more than one report on it in the last days.

2. And absolutely NO influence what so ever and you know that.

3. It really isn't that strong, it's just better than the surrounding nations but none of this has anything to do with my point about AKD.

It's an anti-democratic Nationalistic party which thrives on former strenght of a now very divided nation.
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Sorry john, i have read your posts couple of years ago and i remembered you as a reasonable person but whatever happened in between you seem to have lost touch with reality. i will not debate further with you. Whatever you say.
 
Oric said:
Sorry john, i have read your posts couple of years ago and i remembered you as a reasonable person but whatever happened in between you seem to have lost touch with reality. i will not debate further with you. Whatever you say.
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I'm sorry that you feel this way but reality is real regardless of what you think about it.

I also like that rather than engage in real debate you resorted to dismissal though that isn't uncommon when you have nothing to add.

Two days ago Turkish security forces were using tear gas on Kurdish people celebrating, NO other group was attacked even though the celebrations were uglier and more violent elsewhere.

That should be enough knowledge for anyone to figure out if Kurds are still treated like shit in Turkey, they are.
 
shira said:
This is a pretty gross over-simplification. It's pretty clear that Israel tries to avoid harming civilians when going after it's enemies. Israel's terrorist enemies specifically target civilians.
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Aye, but you need to actually look for truth to find it, not propaganda to support your own agenda like LL or Kyle.
 
I tend to forget that you claim to be privy to internal NATO reports as I've never seen you substantiate the claim.
 
Oric said:
I don't know which mistakes to correct but i will try

1. It was Saddam who gassed the Kurds, and it was Turkey who has opened its borders to more tthan 100,000+ Kurdish refugees in 1994

2. Turkey had its elections 3 days ago, Kurdish party hasnow 36 MP in the parliament up from 23 from 2007 elections. What kind of proof do you need other than a world class election ?

3. Turkish economy is quite strong and on the regional scale it has become a soft power, i understand that you may not like to see my country repair the mistakes of yours from world war I but sorry you are no longer the mastermind of the region
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This may be the first time I've ever seen anyone claim that Turkey is repairing England's mistakes from World War I.
 
I really gotta question any JOS claims, as he say, "Are you daft? I've already told you that twice and if you reread you can read me telling you as many times as you like."

Where the hell does your assumption that you are credible come from JOS?

You are a serial failure in Afghanistan, a legend in only your own mind, yet you say on no basis trust me I know everything about how to lose.

Then you are a lying sack of shit, as you put words in my mouth that I have never said, as you say, Originally Posted by Lemon law View Post
WIR WOLLEN DIE JUDEN AUSROTTEN!"

As I have never criticized the religion of Judiasm, while only opposing the untenable policies of the current Israeli government.

I may be a difference that an immature air head like JOS may never understand, at least until it happens. Sadly it will be a unmitigated disaster if the Taliban win in Afghanistan, but JOS policy is leading to that inevitable end unless Nato grows a brain.

In terms of Israel, its about as bad, because it will be so much better if Palestinians and Jews co-operate. But if Bozo Netanyuhu wants everything, Israel Jews will end up with nothing.

Please grow a brain JOS, its always about how change is managed, effective policies can achieve positive results, your ideas can lead to only eventuality total failure.

You on such a fine roll of achieving total failure already, where does your claims of credibility come from?

JOS, if I want to know how not to achieve positive results, I will be sure to consult you first.
 
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