Interesting tidbit about 9/11...

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Josh

Lifer
Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
The State of New York has agreed to a 15 year lease of 415,000 square feet (38,550 square meter) of space in the Freedom Tower, with an option to extend the term of the lease and occupy up to 1,000,000 square feet

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/12/19/wtc.plan/

2.5 million square feet of commercial space

Lets say that this space goes for $500.00 per square foot and anyone who knows Manhattan will tell you that rate is a steal especially for the most prized location in all the city if not the world!!!! (http://www.newsweek.com/id/151677)

2,500,000 x $500.00 sq/ft = 1,250,000,000 per month yeah there was no incentive to take down those towers...... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Is there anyone out there that can't understand why some people wouldn't be motivated to do this?

Now it's not the government behind it, it's some real estate baron who's going to profit off the space? There's plenty of locations that are worth thousands per sq. ft - why didn't "they" just take out a bunch of different locations and REALLY profit?
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
The State of New York has agreed to a 15 year lease of 415,000 square feet (38,550 square meter) of space in the Freedom Tower, with an option to extend the term of the lease and occupy up to 1,000,000 square feet

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/12/19/wtc.plan/

2.5 million square feet of commercial space

Lets say that this space goes for $500.00 per square foot and anyone who knows Manhattan will tell you that rate is a steal especially for the most prized location in all the city if not the world!!!! (http://www.newsweek.com/id/151677)

2,500,000 x $500.00 sq/ft = 1,250,000,000 per month yeah there was no incentive to take down those towers...... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Is there anyone out there that can't understand why some people wouldn't be motivated to do this?

So now it's for real estate.

Next it'll be about buried Nazi gold reserves in the subway underneath the towers...

i've implied this whole time this wasn't a government conspiracy.
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?
 

Josh

Lifer
Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Ahh, so now Silverstein is behind it... that must mean he is connected to the super secret Free Mason group that Bush, Cheney, etc are all part of that have underground meetings by candlelight wearing purple cloaks?

Not to mention you took this from Wikipedia where all your conspiracy brothers like to post information that has NO credibility.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?

Still, it makes perfect sense that a guy worth billions would blow up several buildings and kill thousands including personal friends just to make some more money. I mean, rich people will do anything.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Ahh, so now Silverstein is behind it... that must mean he is connected to the super secret Free Mason group that Bush, Cheney, etc are all part of that have underground meetings by candlelight wearing purple cloaks?

I don't know who he knows or is connected to or how. Just that I can't believe for a second he is the luckiest man in the world.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?

Still, it makes perfect sense that a guy worth billions would blow up several buildings and kill thousands including personal friends just to make some more money. I mean, rich people will do anything.

Turning 14 million into 10's of billions makes perfect sense.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?

Still, it makes perfect sense that a guy worth billions would blow up several buildings and kill thousands including personal friends just to make some more money. I mean, rich people will do anything.

Turning 14 million into 10's of billions makes perfect sense.

lol. Coming from you I'm not surprised.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.



Not to mention you took this from Wikipedia where all your conspiracy brothers like to post information that has NO credibility.

check the sources yoruself dude. Disprove those facts please. If you are going to challenge the numbers do it. Show how my calculations are off please. Show me how this isn't netting him 10's of billions of dollars. please please show me how.
 

Josh

Lifer
Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Ahh, so now Silverstein is behind it... that must mean he is connected to the super secret Free Mason group that Bush, Cheney, etc are all part of that have underground meetings by candlelight wearing purple cloaks?

I don't know who he knows or is connected to or how. Just that I can't believe for a second he is the luckiest man in the world.

:roll:-
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?

Still, it makes perfect sense that a guy worth billions would blow up several buildings and kill thousands including personal friends just to make some more money. I mean, rich people will do anything.

Turning 14 million into 10's of billions makes perfect sense.

lol. Coming from you I'm not surprised.

are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

I guess you've never gotten close to 100k.

Only a fool with think that bringing down 2 buildings, severely damaging a 3rd, and crashing 4 planes, killing over 3,000 and destroying hundreds of billions in equity wealth in the capital markets, is a "rational" decision by somebody trying to make a buck.

You're really stretching.
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?

Still, it makes perfect sense that a guy worth billions would blow up several buildings and kill thousands including personal friends just to make some more money. I mean, rich people will do anything.

Turning 14 million into 10's of billions makes perfect sense.

lol. Coming from you I'm not surprised.

are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

How much will it take for you, Arcadio, Casio, and Alkemyst to leave the boards forever?
 

Modelworks

Lifer
Feb 22, 2007
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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

I guess you've never gotten close to 100k.

Only a fool with think that bringing down 2 buildings, severely damaging a 3rd, and crashing 4 planes, killing over 3,000 and destroying hundreds of billions in equity wealth in the capital markets, is a "rational" decision by somebody trying to make a buck.

You're really stretching.

Well, maybe not , if it was Ted Turner :)
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Ns1
I'm kind of afraid of the possible answer, but is there some sort of conference where all the crazies can get together and exchange their crazy ideas and pat themselves on their backs over their sheer brilliance?

It's called the State Fair. I'm going on friday.
 

So

Lifer
Jul 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?

Still, it makes perfect sense that a guy worth billions would blow up several buildings and kill thousands including personal friends just to make some more money. I mean, rich people will do anything.

Turning 14 million into 10's of billions makes perfect sense.

lol. Coming from you I'm not surprised.

are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

How much will it take for you, Arcadio, Casio, and Alkemyst to leave the boards forever?

Dude, I'd pitch in $5 if you could actually guarantee it...
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?

Still, it makes perfect sense that a guy worth billions would blow up several buildings and kill thousands including personal friends just to make some more money. I mean, rich people will do anything.

Turning 14 million into 10's of billions makes perfect sense.

lol. Coming from you I'm not surprised.

are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

How much will it take for you, Arcadio, Casio, and Alkemyst to leave the boards forever?

I'll put $100 in the pot.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

I guess you've never gotten close to 100k.

Only a fool with think that bringing down 2 buildings, severely damaging a 3rd, and crashing 4 planes, killing over 3,000 and destroying hundreds of billions in equity wealth in the capital markets, is a "rational" decision by somebody trying to make a buck.

You're really stretching.

are you that naive to think that people don't give a shit if someone lives or dies? Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo mcflyyyyyyy jesus christ dude. What world do you live in man? There are some really evil fucked up people in this world. Lots of them. They existed throughout history. They just don't place any value on human life and the only objective for them is money and power. What do you think war is about? What do you think about all the hundreds of corporations that have profited through wars and human death? Your really really out of touch to believe these types of people would even blink at the thought of this. They do not consider you or me people we are merely human cattle. Here for there exploitation and benefit. Nothing more nothing less.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
18,256
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

I guess you've never gotten close to 100k.

Only a fool with think that bringing down 2 buildings, severely damaging a 3rd, and crashing 4 planes, killing over 3,000 and destroying hundreds of billions in equity wealth in the capital markets, is a "rational" decision by somebody trying to make a buck.

You're really stretching.

are you that naive to think that people don't give a shit if someone lives or dies? Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo mcflyyyyyyy jesus christ dude. What world do you live in man? There are some really evil fucked up people in this world. Lots of them. They existed throughout history. They just don't place any value on human life and the only objective for them is money and power. What do you think war is about? What do you think about all the hundreds of corporations that have profited through wars and human death? Your really really out of touch to believe these types of people would even blink at the thought of this. They do not consider you or me people we are merely human cattle. Here for there exploitation and benefit. Nothing more nothing less.

I work in one of the most cutthroat industries in history, investment banking, and I think you're full of shit. I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in this industry, but to think that this was purely a scam about money, is absolutely intellectually bankrupt.

Besides, it'd require secrecy on a level never seen before. Do you think the government, or any private individual, could keep that up? Hell, the government can't even keep special forces operations secret most of the time. Private industries are just as bad.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

I guess you've never gotten close to 100k.

Only a fool with think that bringing down 2 buildings, severely damaging a 3rd, and crashing 4 planes, killing over 3,000 and destroying hundreds of billions in equity wealth in the capital markets, is a "rational" decision by somebody trying to make a buck.

You're really stretching.

Not to mention that Silverstein was already worth half a billion. Risking getting caught and spending the rest of your life in prison on a ridiculous murderous scheme likes this (and manage to somehow orchestrate it with the hundreds of other conspirators) only makes sense to...well, people who think that such a thing is even possible, let alone desireable.
 

Josh

Lifer
Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Furthermore.........

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on 1WTC, 2WTC, 4WTC, and 5WTC, Silverstein insured the buildings. The insurance policies on these four buildings were underwritten by 24 insurance companies for a combined total of $3.55 billion in property damage coverage.

Silverstein's lease with the Port Authority for the World Trade Center requires him to continue paying $102 million annually in base rent

The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four, and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m2) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal.

Even after 10 years of rebuilding time @ 102 million per year that is only 1 billion and change being paid out of the 3.5 billion insurance settlement.

-Silverstein nets 2+ billion from the insurance deal
-He avoids paying to update the aging towers
-He doesn't pay anything to rebuild the towers
-he collects 1 billion per month in rent once the towers are done.

win win win win win win win win

Sorry I refuse to believe this is the luckiest guy in history of the world. He is as dirty as they come.

Wasn't the whole "he collected insurance money from 9/11" thing disproven yesterday IBS?

Still, it makes perfect sense that a guy worth billions would blow up several buildings and kill thousands including personal friends just to make some more money. I mean, rich people will do anything.

Turning 14 million into 10's of billions makes perfect sense.

lol. Coming from you I'm not surprised.

are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

Wouldn't this disprove some of your buddy's conspiracy theories about "controlled demolition"? You are trying to say insurance companies who are amongst the most STINGIEST of companies - who sometimes don't give $150 to people who can't come up with 100% clear evidence of what happened are going to give away $4 billion if this was SUPPOSEDLY a big demolition and NOT a terrorist attack? They would have rather spent $500 million to prove in SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM this was a demolition so they could avoid paying out anything to this guy..
 

Josh

Lifer
Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

I guess you've never gotten close to 100k.

Only a fool with think that bringing down 2 buildings, severely damaging a 3rd, and crashing 4 planes, killing over 3,000 and destroying hundreds of billions in equity wealth in the capital markets, is a "rational" decision by somebody trying to make a buck.

You're really stretching.

Not to mention that Silverstein was already worth half a billion. Risking getting caught and spending the rest of your life in prison on a ridiculous murderous scheme likes this (and manage to somehow orchestrate it with the hundreds of other conspirators) only makes sense to...well, people who think that such a thing is even possible, let alone desireable.

Exactly. I mean I guess he submitted a public bid on a lease for the complex, all for the opportunity to have his investment destroyed, so he could have the chance to spend years in court, all for the possibility of getting caught or possibly NOT even getting paid. That's just so fucking absurd man. You are talking about greed blah blah blah why the hell would he take such a risk on his investment if he was greedy, I think he'd be smarter to just sit back and collect profit each year than to put together a complex scheme that could possibly lose him everything
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


Wouldn't this disprove some of your buddy's conspiracy theories about "controlled demolition"? You are trying to say insurance companies who are amongst the most STINGIEST of companies - who sometimes don't give $150 to people who can't come up with 100% clear evidence of what happened are going to give away $4 billion if this was SUPPOSEDLY a big demolition and NOT a terrorist attack?

I'm not answering any more of your questions until you disprove the figures and profits I have presented. Furthermore, the insurance companies did fight the payout. The full amount for 2 attacks would have totaled 7 billion the judgment was capped at 4.5 billion liability as determined by the value of the towers. And even furthermore, no company in their right mind is going to go against the status quo in the face of a undeniable evidence that it was a terrorist attack during a time of disaster and mourning. Can you imagine the PR fallout if that happened....it would be suicide. It was a terrorist attack only the terrorists weren't all caught and aren't all who we think they are.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you that naive? 100k would entice most people to do almost anything. 1 million and the sky is the limit.

I guess you've never gotten close to 100k.

Only a fool with think that bringing down 2 buildings, severely damaging a 3rd, and crashing 4 planes, killing over 3,000 and destroying hundreds of billions in equity wealth in the capital markets, is a "rational" decision by somebody trying to make a buck.

You're really stretching.

Not to mention that Silverstein was already worth half a billion. Risking getting caught and spending the rest of your life in prison on a ridiculous murderous scheme likes this (and manage to somehow orchestrate it with the hundreds of other conspirators) only makes sense to...well, people who think that such a thing is even possible, let alone desireable.

Exactly. I mean I guess he submitted a public bid on a lease for the complex, all for the opportunity to have his investment destroyed, so he could have the chance to spend years in court, all for the possibility of getting caught or possibly NOT even getting paid. That's just so fucking absurd man. You are talking about greed blah blah blah why the hell would he take such a risk on his investment if he was greedy, I think he'd be smarter to just sit back and collect profit each year than to put together a complex scheme that could possibly lose him everything

What is the risk of getting caught? Even talking about this subject gets you(me) labeled a loony. As far as I am concerned what little risk he had was easily mitigated.