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Interesting Straw Poll in Michigan
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Steeplerot
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Just another aspect of spin from right wing pundits/media and a good example how out of touch they are with they think the left is about, I dont think many really like clinton, I thought her husband was a lousy corporate sleazebag not much better then bush sr. or raygun and many agree.
Feingold represents the more mainstream view as he actually fights bush people instead of buckling under like the rest of sellout DLC dems.
Look at the tones in here, the DLC dems are not in touch with how the average joe potential dem voter feels at all, people are mad as hell and ready to fight to get our country back.
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Daily Koz = Right wing pundit?
When you are as far left as Steep, even Stalin begins looking moderate.
Steeplerot
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Daily Koz = Right wing pundit?
When you are as far left as Steep, even Stalin begins looking moderate.
Dipshits, I was talking about the myth that lefties worship clinton in any way at all, you buy all this hot air from the right-wing media, it is you all who are so far right you cannot even see what these people are doing, nor do you care imo, I am sure you have some sort of stock option or another and profit off of what bush is doing.
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This was a Michigan poll...
The results would be very different in Utah or Alabama.
Like I said, it's interestin in terms of how the debate is going to frame up. Personally, I think the R candidate will come from that tight, middle (Romny, Gingrich, McCain) pack.
That said, Gingrich is the R's version of Hill. So I doubt he'll be around when it's all said and done.
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Ahhh.. Thanks for clearing that up. No... I am not someone who believes that the left worships Hill. From what I understand the extreme left (people like you) are very disappointed in her stance on the Iraq war and other issues. I've even said in the past that she's going right because she knows that as pissed as you guys might get at her, if it comes down to her and an R you'll still vote for her.Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Daily Koz = Right wing pundit?
When you are as far left as Steep, even Stalin begins looking moderate.
Dipshits, I was talking about the myth that lefties worship clinton in any way at all, you buy all this hot air from the right-wing media, it is you all who are so far right you cannot even see what these people are doing, nor do you care imo, I am sure you have some sort of stock option or another and profit off of what bush is doing.
The big question in using that strategy is if she can get out of the primaries after pissing off the hard core base of her party. Either way, I really don't think she's going to make it. The Ds are all about winning this time around. They won't put out a nom that they aren't completely sure can win in '08. Richardson, Bayh, someone like that... that's my guess right now.
Dick Morris is the only person I can think of that believes Hill is a lock.
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I wouldn't vote for her ever, and never did her husband, and there is nothing "far" left about my stance on the war, actually it is the war supporters who are the fringe, sorry.
Like I said, you all have bought so much crypto-fascist bulls1t like "far-left" (like we even have a far left here in america :laugh: ) from the media you cannot see the forest through the trees.
Like I said, you all have bought so much crypto-fascist bulls1t like "far-left" (like we even have a far left here in america :laugh: ) from the media you cannot see the forest through the trees.
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Just yesterday you were talking up communism... but you're not far left?
You mean I was commenting on it, not playing it up, lie much?
From cowardice of conservatives thread
Oh yeah, I am such a commie, here is the last time I remember speaking of communism in the How many would rather have Communism than the current Republicanism?
Along with a link to a old punk song that is anti-communist.
Like I said, you all dont even have a clue anymore you have swallowed so much bvllshit.
Anyhow, continue to try to bash, you will be proven FOS again, do yourself a favor and cram that far left commie right wing pundit propaganda crap where it doesent shine, it is you wingnuts that population in here shrink almost daily, people are sick of failed conservatism "ideal" and the divisiness they have sown through outright lies against fellow americans. Have a nice day fool.
I'd vote Tancredo on his anti-illegal immigration stance alone. And I'd vote against McCain for his anti-American amnesty views.
Interesting to see that Keyes even made the list. I can't believe that anyone actually takes him seriously. Out of the others that I know anything about, I might consider Allen...
Interesting to see that Keyes even made the list. I can't believe that anyone actually takes him seriously. Out of the others that I know anything about, I might consider Allen...
I predict that Warner will be the Dem to beat in '08. Its hysterical that Clinton is polling so low, despite all the talk of Hillary this, Clinton that in the media.
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My bad. Commie comment was misplaced. Had only skimmed through the other thread.Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Just yesterday you were talking up communism... but you're not far left?
You mean I was commenting on it, not playing it up, lie much?
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
My bad. Commie comment was misplaced. Had only skimmed through the other thread.Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Just yesterday you were talking up communism... but you're not far left?
You mean I was commenting on it, not playing it up, lie much?
It's cool, I am no commie, I have volunteered and been active in politics for over a decade, sometimes I may gray the line in frustration in the system but I have always stood up for our constitution and democracy, even though I may critisize openly and suggest tweaks here and there we do have a good system that is a mess right now though.
Some of us are toughest on what we love the most or something.
Politics is a great love of mine, (and at times how I make a living) history and books, thus yeah, I may go over peoples heads, or even not be anywere on the same level since I do not watch or own a tv. I am admittedly a poor writer too, so it may have been me glossing over things without explaining at times.
Regardless, I cannot stand totalitarism in any form.
Traditionally, it is harder for a congressmen to get elected as president than a Washington DC outsider like a governor. This is because a congressman or a representative has a longer record and has had a chance to make is ideas known on the floor of the house or senate. People that have only held state office are better off because they dont have a federal record. Look at the past presidents.
When was the last time a congressman or a representative got elected president?
When was the last time a congressman or a representative got elected president?
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That's encouraging. It's kind of weird to see Tancredo up on top since his national profile isn't all that high and since immigration isn't a huge issue in Michigan. However, global labor wage arbitrage, part of which is immigration, is somewhat of an issue here in Michigan.
Feingold represents the more mainstream view as he actually fights bush people instead of buckling under like the rest of sellout DLC dems.
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can't wait for feingold to win the dem nomination. I love it when the Mainstream left picks their leftist candidate (Kerry over Edwards), someone who will never swing any southern states.
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can't wait for feingold to win the dem nomination. I love it when the Mainstream left picks their leftist candidate (Kerry over Edwards), someone who will never swing any southern states.
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