Interesting story I heard from a friend...

[BlancoNino]

So a 5-year old kid (we'll call him Jimmy) is about to go to kindergarten for the first time. One of the requirements is that the kid is supposed to have a box of crayons as part of his supplies. The kid really wants this box of 64 Crayola Crayons (the best kind, of course), so he acts really good, does everything that's expected (brushes his teeth on time, doesn't fuss about anything, helps pick up things around the house, and other little things). So his parents say "okay, you've been good, we'll buy you that set of 64 Crayola Crayons!".

So Jimmy is all excited and goes to school for the first day. The first thing the teacher asks is for all the kids to pull out their crayons and dump them into a big box. The teacher explains that not all kids can afford crayons, so they have to have a big box for everyone to share. When the box comes around for Jimmy to dump in his nice set of crayons that he worked so hard for, he starts to cry and says "but these are my crayons!", to which the teacher replies "You need to share, stop being so selfish!". So he dumps them in and everyone in the class gets to use the crayons he worked for. After a few weeks, many of them are broken, dull, and completely not taken care of.

Isn't it so nice that the first thing our children learn in public schools is socialism? IIRC, I believe the same thing happened to me, except in 1st or 2nd grade.

 

[senseamp]

That's an interesting story. Can I tell it at parties and pretend it was my friend?

 

[CityShrimp]

Never happened to me, so can't really relate. But I do have a few questions.
1) Did the teacher specify beforehand that they were going to share?
2) Is the teacher's claim that not every kid can afford crayons true? I don't know where this even occurred, but I highly doubt that the parents were unable to spare a few dollars on a cheap set of crayons.
3) Were the other supplies they brought shared as well? I mean, if people can't afford crayons, I'm pretty sure there are other supplies they can't afford. If they didn't share other stuff, I'd say the teacher is full of BS about sharing crayons.

 

[senseamp]

It probably never happened. It's just one of those strawmen "stories" rightwingers like to put up.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: senseamp
That's an interesting story. Can I tell it at parties and pretend it was my friend?

Geez, what's with his parents? How did this poor child learn to imagine that things are the source of happiness? How come he doesn't know that the joy of crayons is in drawing with them and that those drawings he will share with others will nevertheless always belong to him as the artist? Why has he not been helped to see that the value of his life is in being? What a sad state of affairs, a poor child who sees himself as an ego to whom things can belong? He will have a hard time dying some day because he will lose all he mistakes as having value. How come this child was never given a chance to learn how much more joy there is in sharing?

But now that he's sick, taking his crayons will only deepen his illness. Now he will hate having to share. The joy of living in part for others will be lost to him. He will become more and more fixated on things.

 

[GoPackGo]

Im sending my kid to school with the four-pack of crayons...red, blue, green and black.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Im sending my kid to school with the four-pack of crayons...red, blue, green and black.

I'm sending mine with a box of 64 white crayons, and teaching him to never mix them withother colors.

 

[spittledip]

I think that a teacher has no right to demand that a child give something that is his. It is unethical. I wonder how true the story is. It seems to be like one of those email forwards you get

 

[LumbergTech]

this is a new low for this forum.....

oh no, they are forcing children to share a 4 dollar box of crayons the communists are coming

if jimmy doesnt get the fruits of his labor he will never brush his teeth again OH NOEz

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Im sending my kid to school with the four-pack of crayons...red, blue, green and black.

I'm sending mine with a box of 64 white crayons, and teaching him to never mix them withother colors.

I am sending mine with 1 crayon, and teaching him to put the remaining 63 in an offshore account

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Im sending my kid to school with the four-pack of crayons...red, blue, green and black.

I'm sending mine with a box of 64 white crayons, and teaching him to never mix them withother colors.

I am sending mine with 1 crayon, and teaching him to put the remaining 63 in an offshore account

LOL perfect

 

[BoberFett]

Sounds like a chain e-mail.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this is a new low for this forum.....

oh no, they are forcing children to share a 4 dollar box of crayons the communists are coming

if jimmy doesnt get the fruits of his labor he will never brush his teeth again OH NOEz

^^ ROFL

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Sounds like a chain e-mail.

That's what I said

 

[Arcex]

They can have my crayons when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers.

They may take our lives, but they'll never take our crayons!

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
So a 5-year old kid (we'll call him Jimmy) is about to go to kindergarten for the first time. One of the requirements is that the kid is supposed to have a box of crayons as part of his supplies. The kid really wants this box of 64 Crayola Crayons (the best kind, of course), so he acts really good, does everything that's expected (brushes his teeth on time, doesn't fuss about anything, helps pick up things around the house, and other little things). So his parents say "okay, you've been good, we'll buy you that set of 64 Crayola Crayons!".

So Jimmy is all excited and goes to school for the first day. The first thing the teacher asks is for all the kids to pull out their crayons and dump them into a big box. The teacher explains that not all kids can afford crayons, so they have to have a big box for everyone to share. When the box comes around for Jimmy to dump in his nice set of crayons that he worked so hard for, he starts to cry and says "but these are my crayons!", to which the teacher replies "You need to share, stop being so selfish!". So he dumps them in and everyone in the class gets to use the crayons he worked for. After a few weeks, many of them are broken, dull, and completely not taken care of.

Isn't it so nice that the first thing our children learn in public schools is socialism? IIRC, I believe the same thing happened to me, except in 1st or 2nd grade.

Its one of those things that I dont necesarily believe, but I wouldnt be suprised if it happened either.

Regardless, if it happened to my kid I'd chew the teachers ass up one side and down the other, and then move on to the administrators office as well.

 

[halik]

chain letters FTL

 

[Genx87]

Ill live the true liberal dream and send my kid with no crayons and live off the rich kids who worked for their crayons.

 

[LoganP]

My daughter started kindergarten this year. After getting the list of supplies, I took her to the store so she could pick out the folders she liked, crayons, and so on. On the supply list it ask the parents not to label anything. Fast forward to her first day of school, as we were walking up to her class we noticed a line of plastic bins lined up along the wall next to her door. My daughter didn't understand why we had to put all her stuff into each bin and she whimpered a bit that she wouldn't be able find it later. I ended up spending about $40 for all this stuff not releasing that it was going to be shared between all the students. I'll admit that the selfish person inside me didn't want her to have to share, but I understand why they did it. $40 may not seem like a lot to some, but for some parents, it's more than they can save in a month. Times we live in and all...

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: LoganP
My daughter started kindergarten this year. After getting the list of supplies, I took her to the store so she could pick out the folders she liked, crayons, and so on. On the supply list it ask the parents not to label anything. Fast forward to her first day of school, as we were walking up to her class we noticed a line of plastic bins lined up along the wall next to her door. My daughter didn't understand why we had to put all her stuff into each bin and she whimpered a bit that she wouldn't be able find it later. I ended up spending about $40 for all this stuff not releasing that it was going to be shared between all the students. I'll admit that the selfish person inside me didn't want her to have to share, but I understand why they did it. $40 may not seem like a lot to some, but for some parents, it's more than they can save in a month. Times we live in and all...

They should tell the welfare moms instead of buying cigarettes with their check they should buy school supplies for their kids.

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: LoganP
My daughter started kindergarten this year. After getting the list of supplies, I took her to the store so she could pick out the folders she liked, crayons, and so on. On the supply list it ask the parents not to label anything. Fast forward to her first day of school, as we were walking up to her class we noticed a line of plastic bins lined up along the wall next to her door. My daughter didn't understand why we had to put all her stuff into each bin and she whimpered a bit that she wouldn't be able find it later. I ended up spending about $40 for all this stuff not releasing that it was going to be shared between all the students. I'll admit that the selfish person inside me didn't want her to have to share, but I understand why they did it. $40 may not seem like a lot to some, but for some parents, it's more than they can save in a month. Times we live in and all...

They should tell the welfare moms instead of buying cigarettes with their check they should buy school supplies for their kids.

:roll: Welfare will barely pay your rent, and you can't buy crayons with foodstamps.

 

[ProfJohn]

Wouldnt it make more sense to just tax the rich kids a few of their crayons?

Call it crayon redistribution.

Jimmy with his 64 box has to give up 33% of his crayons.
Johnny with his 32 box only has to give up 15%
Billy with his 16 box gives up only 5%
Timmy with his 8 box keeps all his
And anyone with less than 8 gets to take crayons out the ones taxed from the rich kids.

Of course if Jimmy complains about losing his crayons he is immediately called bad names and accused of not wanting to help out the needy. And of course we all know that only reason Jimmy has 64 crayons is because he took advantage of the system.

Of course economic history teaches us a few things that will happen the following year.
1. Jimmy will show up with another box of 64, but this time he will call them pencils thus avoiding the crayon tax.
2. Or Jimmy will bring less crayons so that they take fewer of them from him
3. Or maybe Jimmy brings no crayons at all and decides to live off the work of others.

Its a cute story, most likely fake, but it does show how many in our society act and what they believe. If you have more than everyone else because you work harder or smarter than others you are expected to share the fruits of YOUR labor with everyone.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
They should tell the welfare moms instead of buying cigarettes with their check they should buy school supplies for their kids.

There are actually poor people out there who work hard to raise kids alone due to dead beat dads. And many of these families have a hard time paying for school supplies. So providing help to them is a good thing.
But there are ways of doing this outside of socialism. Such as the drives for school supplies etc.
Education is the key to success in our society so I have no problem with responsible school spending.

However, there are a lot of other social programs that are to expensive and provide to little results for the money spent on them. And I have BIG problem with the John Edwards of the world who think we can just tax the rich in order to provide the poor with every social ?need? the government can think of.

 

[Jeff7]

Isn't this what school taxes are for, to collect from everyone so as to provide for the common good of the children?

Instead of using the children's supplies, why not just supply everyone with an 8-pack of crayons?

Originally posted by: Genx87
Ill live the true liberal dream and send my kid with no crayons and live off the rich kids who worked for their crayons.

I think the true liberal dream would be a place where everyone has equal access to what our standard of living regards as the baseline. Basic health care, access to good schooling, justice - not just for the richest who can afford a pricey lawyer, and a clean and safe environment, just off the top of my head. If you want to go crazily above that with 6-7-8-digit salaries, go ahead. Just don't do so to the point where your ridiculous salary comes at the expense of impoverishing others.

Unfortunately, there are liberals out there who are extremists, and are very far left. Extremism in any case is a bad thing. Moderation in all things.

 

[senseamp]

Maybe the school district should provide the crayons.