interesting similarities between radical leftists and radical muslims

[raildogg]

I've been thinking for a while now that there is a common link between the radical leftists and the radical Islamists. Both may not always want the same result but they do have a common bond.

1. Both hate America with a passion
2. Both attack Christianity and christians at every given opportunity
3. They seem to blame all the problems in the world on America and Israel
4. Both view Bin Laden and Zarqawi as freedom fighters


The radical leftists always seem to forgive the murder of innocent civilians at the hands of radical muslims while always condemning America and Israel of even the slightest error in judgement.

One thing that does differentiate them however is that the radical muslims do in fact want to murder the radical leftists. The view them as infidels of the lowest kind. According to them, the radical leftists are bringing sleazy television into their homes and corrupting the minds of their children.

Ward Churchill, the whacked out radical leftist, views 9/11 victims not as victims, but people who got what they deserved. I'm sure the radical leftists out there agree with him. So again, if we can fight a war against radical Islam, why not radical leftism? They both seem to represent the culture of death.

The Anti-Christian Leftists Union, or ACLU, is one of the few organizations that are tied to these radical leftists that I do somewhat support. They are doing the right thing, although they may not always be fair. They are not the enemy.

The enemy is people like Ward Churchill and other radical leftists, along with radical Islam. The only way to defeat these people is not to kill them, but to find the root of the problem and erase it. What drives them to the extreme? What motivates them to murder and/or support murder? That is the question.

 

[Steeplerot]

like I said in another thread, it is you who are in the minority now, save the radical leftist bit, america is waking up and this talk is plain trollbait besides having no basis in reality.

Here is a poll today of average joes (on AOL of all places)

Do you feel you were misled on the war?
Yes, deliberately 65%
No 25%
Yes, but not deliberately 10%



How important is it to debate the reasons we went to war?
Very 66%
Not at all 24%
Somewhat 10%


You should be ashamed bashing fellow americans like that you "radical hardliner bushite"

 

[Tab]

:roll:

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

 

[Shuxclams]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Ditto-Head










SHUX

 

[umbrella39]

I didn't get past this:
1. Both hate America with a passion.

Many feel the same way about neoconservatives.

 

[Stunt]

Now for my analysis of Raildogg:

1. Hates America (you are obviously bashing your own countrymen)
2. Attacks Liberals at every given opportunity (see OP, how pathetic)
3. Blames all the problems in the world on Terrorists and Liberals

get a life :roll:

 

[Steeplerot]

It is probaly the biggest load of horsesh1t trolled on this forum in ages.


1. Both hate America with a passion (Bullsh1t, we have debated this and tried to explain it to you again and again NOONE in here I have ever seen post said this crap)
2. Both attack Christianity and christians at every given opportunity (We attack the radical element just as much as we do the muslim one -another lie)
3. They seem to blame all the problems in the world on America and Israel (It is called making our country accountable for our actions I for one blame both israel and palestine for the stuation)
4. Both view Bin Laden and Zarqawi as freedom fighters (This is not even worth answering NEVER have I seen a american in here defend osama!)



I must say after all this time in here listening to some very insightful ideas and thoughts, and all the tripe you STILL refuse to listen to anyone and pull this stuff out of your ass. Seek help.

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
like I said in another thread, it is you who are in the minority now, save the radical leftist bit, america is waking up and this talk is plain trollbait besides having no basis in reality.

Here is a poll today of average joes (on AOL of all places)

Do you feel you were misled on the war?
Yes, deliberately 65%
No 25%
Yes, but not deliberately 10%



How important is it to debate the reasons we went to war?
Very 66%
Not at all 24%
Somewhat 10%


You should be ashamed bashing fellow americans like that you "radical hardliner bushite"

This is hard to take: A guy who will discount any poll that's opposite his opinion (the masses are "deluded by propaganda", etc), yet happily quotes an AOL poll when in agreement with his position (they're "waking up").

As if polls tell right or wrong anyway?

This is even harder to take: A guy who makes a sport of bashing whole groups of Americans with adolescent names and such, yet wags his sanctimonious finger at someone fo supposedly (in his mind) does the same.

This is why I've pretty much stopped wasting my time in these threads.

EDIT: ON TOPIC- I will say I don't quite understand the OP or its purpose, and it does seem to deserve a fat

 

[Todd33]

Can the mods ban this idiot already?

 

[glenn1]

like I said in another thread, it is you who are in the minority now, save the radical leftist bit, america is waking up and this talk is plain trollbait besdies having no basis in reality. Here is a poll today of average joes (on AOL of all places)

Do you feel you were misled on the war?
Yes, deliberately 65%
No 25%
Yes, but not deliberately 10%


How important is it to debate the reasons we went to war?
Very 66%
Not at all 24%
Somewhat 10%

I'll see your poll and raise you one....link

<snip>

MR. RUSSERT: The issue, I think, confronting Democrats is that they're afraid of being perceived as soft on national security and defense issues. I showed you the 16 issues where people agreed with the Democrats. There are still a couple where people overwhelmingly think the Republicans are the better party. Here's two: Strong national defense--look at those numbers: 43 Republican, 22 Democrats. War on terror, 35-26. The Democrats are perceived as the weaker party on those kinds of issues. And that's why they voted for the war when it was popular, it's being suggested. And now, when the war is not popular, they're trying to back off their position.

DR. DEAN: We need to make sure that we can--look, I know what those numbers are, and I think that's a big problem for the Democrats. We need to--we need to make the American people understand that we are strong on defense, and that the strength of our position on defense is not just that we'll support a robust and muscular foreign policy. It's that we'll tell the truth. Telling the truth has a lot to do with defending America. If people don't believe you--if 80 percent of the people in Jordan, which is one of our most important allies, don't believe us, then we've got a bigger defense problem with Zarqawi than we do if people--if we become once again, as we have been in the past, the moral beacon for the rest of the world. And that's what we need to do. So a strong defense policy--we do need a strong defense policy. We need to make it clear that Democrats will stand up for America and pull the trigger in defense of America, but we fundamentally first need to tell the truth so we're believable again.

MR. RUSSERT: The other issue that the Republicans still have the upper hand with Democrats, strong moral values; 35 percent see the Republicans are better on that issue. Only 18 percent of Democrats.


<snip>

MR. RUSSERT: Let's talk about the Democrats and some of the polling data. Congressional Democrats have the same priorities as you: yes, 26 percent; no, 54 percent. So the Democrats aren't perceived as the answer. And look at this, Chairman Dean. We asked independent voters: Do you believe that Democrats have a clear message, a vision for the future? Fifty-two percent of independent swing voters say no. One in four Democrats say you have no clear vision, no agenda, no clear message. Joe Trippi, your former campaign manager said, "Obviously, the results" from Election Night "are great for us Democrats. But given the GOP's problems, the tightness of the results suggest that people aren't happy with either party right now. Democrats have got to push an alternative agenda."

DR. DEAN: We have an alternative agenda. We made it very clear. We want a strong national security based on telling the truth to our people at home, our soldiers and our allies. We want jobs in America that'll stay in America, and we believe that renewable energy is one of the areas where we can do that. We want a health-care system that covers everybody, just like 36 other countries in the world. We want a strong public education system. And most of all, we want honesty back in government. I think that's a pretty good agenda.

MR. RUSSERT: But those are words that will appeal to people. But when you go behind them, for example, what is the Democratic position on Iraq? Should we withdraw troops now? What do the Democrats stand for?
DR. DEAN: Tim, first of all, we don't control the House, the Senate or the White House. We have plenty of time to show Americans what our agenda is and we will long before the '06 elections.

MR. RUSSERT: But there's no Democratic plan on Social Security. There's no Democratic plan on the deficit problem. There's no specifics. They say, "Well, we want a strong Social Security. We want to reduce the deficit. We want health care for everyone," but there's no plan how to pay for it.

DR. DEAN: Right now it's not our job to give out specifics. We have no control in the House. We have no control in the Senate. It's our job is to stop this administration, this corrupt and incompetent administration, from doing more damage to America. And that's what we're going to do. We're doing our best. Look at the trouble they're having putting together a budget. Why is that? Because there's still a few moderate Republicans left who don't think it's OK to cut school lunch programs, who don't think it's OK to do some of the appalling things that they're doing in their budget. I saw a show last night which showed a young African-American man in California at the UC of Davis who hoped to go to law school. The Republicans want to cut $14 billion out of higher education so this kid can't go to law school. We're going to do better than that, and together, America can do better than that.

MR. RUSSERT: But is it enough for you to say to the country, "Trust us, the other guy's no good. We'll do better, but we're not going to tell you specifically how we're going to deal with Iraq."

DR. DEAN: We will. When the time comes, we will do that.

MR. RUSSERT: When's the time going to come?

DR. DEAN: The time is fast-approaching. And I outlined the broad outlines of our agenda. We're going to have specific plans in all of these areas.

<snip>

MR. RUSSERT: Money, the mother's milk of politics, as it's been referred to, here's The Washington Post article. "The Democratic National Committee under Howard Dean is losing the fund-raising race against the Republicans by nearly 2wto 1 ..." The article goes on to say that "the Republicans have raised $83.5 million, the Democrats just $42 million."
What is wrong with your fund-raising operations?

DR. DEAN: Nothing. It's going great. We just broke the record with six weeks to go for fund-raising during the off year, and we didn't even have the ability to raise soft money to do it. We have paid operatives in 38 out of 50 states. We will be in 50 states by the end of the year. We just won two really important gubernatorial elections and managed to deep-six all of Governor Schwarzenegger's initiatives in California. I'd say we're having a pretty good year.

MR. RUSSERT: But if you're being outgunned 2-to1 in the 2006 elections, how can you possibly succeed?

 

[Steeplerot]

I sure as hell bash posters who act ignorant, bash me with assumtions, or display outright racism, sexism and the like, if you can't handle stick you thumb back in that big mouth of yours and head back to the tv and your fairytale view that someone with a leftist leaning will just roll over for your tired games like claiming bigot on one who points out racist etc. trash.

 

[Agnostos Insania]

Why do liberals hate freedom?

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: raildogg
I've been thinking for a while now that there is a common link between the radical leftists and the radical Islamists. Both may not always want the same result but they do have a common bond.

1. Both hate America with a passion
2. Both attack Christianity and christians at every given opportunity
3. They seem to blame all the problems in the world on America and Israel
4. Both view Bin Laden and Zarqawi as freedom fighters


The radical leftists always seem to forgive the murder of innocent civilians at the hands of radical muslims while always condemning America and Israel of even the slightest error in judgement.

One thing that does differentiate them however is that the radical muslims do in fact want to murder the radical leftists. The view them as infidels of the lowest kind. According to them, the radical leftists are bringing sleazy television into their homes and corrupting the minds of their children.

Ward Churchill, the whacked out radical leftist, views 9/11 victims not as victims, but people who got what they deserved. I'm sure the radical leftists out there agree with him. So again, if we can fight a war against radical Islam, why not radical leftism? They both seem to represent the culture of death.

The Anti-Christian Leftists Union, or ACLU, is one of the few organizations that are tied to these radical leftists that I do somewhat support. They are doing the right thing, although they may not always be fair. They are not the enemy.

The enemy is people like Ward Churchill and other radical leftists, along with radical Islam. The only way to defeat these people is not to kill them, but to find the root of the problem and erase it. What drives them to the extreme? What motivates them to murder and/or support murder? That is the question.

Who are these "radical Leftists"? Can you name any who meet the criteria you listed above?

Originally posted by: glenn1
blah blah blah, denial denial denial

The SPIN CYCLE is definitely on high!

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: glenn1

From your post: Back in "July of 2005"


Try again.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Interesting how the OP specifically states RADICAL leftists yet the left leaning respondants take it personally and post links and quotes from Democrats.

Paging Dr. Freud...

 

[arsbanned]

I asked him to name one. He hasn't yet. Then we'll know just who the fvck he's talking about, won't we.

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: glenn1

From your post: Back in "July of 2005"


Try again.

SPIN CYCLE ON HIGHHHHHHH!

 

[raildogg]

nice try loonies, I am more of a Demoncat than Republican and consider myself a liberal. Stunt, keep those assumptions to yourself.

Right Wingers come from the same family of Nazis, am I wrong?
Left Wingers come from the same family of Lenin and Stalin, am I wrong?

A radical leftist does not mean a liberal, which I am. A liberal does not support the culture of death.

But keep up this game.

as for naming someone, I did, if you read it it. there are also others.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Can the mods ban this idiot already?

please, what an asstard.

Of all we have explained to raildogg COUNTLESS times and he still comes in here with this crap.

wtf is wrong with you rd? Do you have selective reading?

 

[arsbanned]

raildog...

Name one who subscribes to all the criteria you listed above. One.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
I asked him to name one. He hasn't yet. Then we'll know just who the fvck he's talking about, won't we.

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: glenn1

From your post: Back in "July of 2005"


Try again.

SPIN CYCLE ON HIGHHHHHHH!

Right in the OP and in your quote of the OP is the name Ward Churchill and the ACLU. Neither could be considered mainstream left.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Interesting how the OP specifically states RADICAL leftists yet the left leaning respondants take it personally and post links and quotes from Democrats.

Paging Dr. Freud...

Or you could try your hand at it. Name one of these "Radical Leftists". You seem to know who raildog is referring to.... Or are you talking out the wrong orifice again.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
raildog...

Name one who subscribes to all the criteria you listed above. One.

Read please. ACLU is one of the few organizations who come from way out there that I do respect. People like Ward Churchill and many of his fellow professors are the enemies of America. Like I said, you don't defeat your enemies by using violence against them, you erase the root of the problem.

If these so-called liberals were really what they claim they are, there would be little or no name calling here. They just don't realize that, yet. I put an effort to differentiate radical leftists from leftists and radical muslims from muslims.

But I guess these internet warriors need something to cry about.

 

[glenn1]

From your post: Back in "July of 2005"


Try again.

What are you going on about? The interview was from November 13th.