Interesting read on origins of the AIDS virus

blahblah99

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Pretty interesting... and long! Some excerpts:

The theory hinges on the claim that the AIDS virus (HIV) is virtually
identical to two other viruses: Visna, which causes a fatal disease in
sheep but does not infect humans, and HTLV-I (Human T-Cell Leukemia
Virus), which infects humans but is seldom fatal.


The theory of the African origin of AIDS, that it developed in African
monkeys and was transferred to man, has been abandoned by most
researchers. All of the known varieties of SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency
Virus) are structurally so dissimilar to HIV (much less similar than HIV
and Visna) that a common origin is out of the question. Furthermore,
even if such a development by natural mutation were possible, it would
not explain the sudden outbreak of AIDS in the early 1980s, since
monkeys and men have been living together in Africa since the beginning
of human history.


It was there, in the P4 (high-security) laboratory at Fort Detrick,
according to Segal, where the AIDS virus was actually created, between
the fall of 1977 and spring of 1978. Six months is precisely the time it
would have taken, using the techniques available then, to create the
AIDS virus from Visna and HTLV-I.

Segal claims that the new virus was then tested on convicts who
volunteered for the experiment in return for their release from prison.
Failing to show any early symptoms of disease, the prisoners were
released after six months. Some were homosexual, and went to New York,
where the disease was first attested in 1979.

The researchers had not counted on creating a disease with such a long
incubation period. (One year is relatively short for AIDS, but would not
be unusual if the infection was induced by high- dosage injections.) If
the researchers had kept their human guinea pigs under observation for a
longer time, they would have detected the disease and been able to
contain it.

In other words, Segal claims that AIDS is the result of a germ warfare
research experiment gone awry.

 

BDawg

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Come on. You know it was you having sex with monkeys. :)

Where did you dig this thing up?

Edit: The speeling monkies gave me the wrong spelling of their species.
 

GoingUp

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What about the St. Louis case where it was found in a boy back in 1947? It was found years later after he died and they went back and relooked at his blood
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Conspiracy Theorists rejoice!

The fact that they know the name of the man (which I don't remember) off hand who brought HIV to the US from southern africa, the fact that he was a homosexual airline steward (hence the introduction to the homosexual population in the US) and the fact that HIV originated in southern africa and only in america is the infection rate higher among gay men tend to discredit the garbage linked.
 

UNCjigga

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Pshaw, we all know it really comes from gay rhesus monkeys with green fur humping unsuspecting safari tourists!!!
 

MrBond

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This is NOT work safe, but it isn't porn. It's just really tasteless and goes along with the subject at hand pretty well.

(I actually belive this is how we got AIDS, this world is full of sickos who would do that)
 

Ronstang

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We will never know if it is true or just another "conspiracy theory". Sadly, truth is only accepted as such if it is a universally popular version the masses are WILLING to believe. This could be true....but noone wants it to be true so everyone will start accusing the originator of being a nutcase up to the point that he will be demonized and ostrasized.

Think about it.................and I really don't believe this info to be correct, but can anyone disprove it with facts, just some food for thought.
 

SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Conspiracy Theorists rejoice!

Unlike most conspiracy theories, this hold water. It doesn't have to be any particular lab that can be blamed for creating it. It could have been mistakenly created in any lab.

Now, what if the virus were airborne and could be spread as easily as a cold? Then we'd be fscked.