Interesting observation of those little American Flags....

VTrider

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You know the one's i'm talking about:

The 10pk for $2.99 ones that people so unknowlingly purchase at their favorite convenience store on the way to the Memorial Day parade. Those little 6" flags on plastic sticks that kids wave around on 4th of July Day parties. Perhaps even the one flying outside your house on that flag pole.........

Well, if you take a close look at the them and/or package they came in, you'll most likely find that they are all made in Taiwan, China, Mexico, ect. catch my drift? It's just ironic that millions of Americans every holiday purchase some kind of 'patriotic' consumer product that's not even made in the USA. If you don't believe me, go into any Walmart, Target, local mall, etc. and take the time to actually read the packaging.

I'm sure many here take the time to make sure his/her 'American' flag was made in the USA before purchase, but i'm betting that the majority don't. What's everybodys take on this?

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dighn

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the flag sellers are capitalizing on it. they don't give a shlt about patriosm.

but the people who buy the flags shouldn't care, it's the symbol tha tmatters.
 

VTrider

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"but the people who buy the flags shouldn't care, it's the symbol tha tmatters. "


I live in Vermont, countless thousands upon thousands of tourists leave every year with 'maple syrup - made in Vermont' to go home and put on their pancakes. I bet they would be at the very least, displeased if they saw on the bottom of the container 'produced in New Jersey'. But if the 'symbol' only matters......then I guess that makes it okay? Hmmmmm?

 

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Originally posted by: VTrider
"but the people who buy the flags shouldn't care, it's the symbol tha tmatters. "


I live in Vermont, countless thousands upon thousands of tourists leave every year with 'maple syrup - made in Vermont' to go home and put on their pancakes. I bet they would be at the very least, displeased if they saw on the bottom of the container 'produced in New Jersey'. But if the 'symbol' only matters......then I guess that makes it okay? Hmmmmm?
He does make a good point..

 

dighn

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Originally posted by: VTrider
"but the people who buy the flags shouldn't care, it's the symbol tha tmatters. "


I live in Vermont, countless thousands upon thousands of tourists leave every year with 'maple syrup - made in Vermont' to go home and put on their pancakes. I bet they would be at the very least, displeased if they saw on the bottom of the container 'produced in New Jersey'. But if the 'symbol' only matters......then I guess that makes it okay? Hmmmmm?

that's different. you buy the maple syrup for the reason that it is made in vermont.

you buy the flag to show support for your country - sure it's not made in your country so you aren't supporting it that way, but you show support just by sticking it everyfvckingwhere - goal achieved. the fact that you are supporting other countries' economies at the same time shouldn't make a difference because they are not your enemies.
 

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Originally posted by: VTrider
"but the people who buy the flags shouldn't care, it's the symbol tha tmatters. "

I live in Vermont, countless thousands upon thousands of tourists leave every year with 'maple syrup - made in Vermont' to go home and put on their pancakes. I bet they would be at the very least, displeased if they saw on the bottom of the container 'produced in New Jersey'. But if the 'symbol' only matters......then I guess that makes it okay? Hmmmmm?

To a point I agree w/ you VTrider, bet then again, if we were so "American-Centric, then we wouldn't buy any products that aren't made in the USA in my opinion :)
 

VTrider

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Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: VTrider
"but the people who buy the flags shouldn't care, it's the symbol tha tmatters. "


I live in Vermont, countless thousands upon thousands of tourists leave every year with 'maple syrup - made in Vermont' to go home and put on their pancakes. I bet they would be at the very least, displeased if they saw on the bottom of the container 'produced in New Jersey'. But if the 'symbol' only matters......then I guess that makes it okay? Hmmmmm?

that's different. you buy the maple syrup for the reason that it is made in vermont.

you buy the flag to show support for your country - sure it's not made in your country so you aren't supporting it that way, but you show support just by sticking it everyfvckingwhere - goal achieved. just because you are support other countries economies doesn't mean you can't support your country at the same time. it's just intangible support :p


But couldn't one say that by buying maple syrup for the reason that it is made in vermont, that you are indeed showing support for Vermont products too? Just like the flag? I do agree that just by buying and displaying a product you are showing support, I guess it's the underlying principle that i'm curious about?
 

dighn

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well i can't say for other people but i wouldn't buy vermont syrup to "show support" but i'd buy it because it is unique or maybe it tastes better? i dunno but it wouldn't be for "support"

unless there is something special about vermnt that i'm missing here, never heard of it before.

besides, putting up flags is an act of patriotism and it in itself is a show of support.
 

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Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: VTrider
"but the people who buy the flags shouldn't care, it's the symbol tha tmatters. "


I live in Vermont, countless thousands upon thousands of tourists leave every year with 'maple syrup - made in Vermont' to go home and put on their pancakes. I bet they would be at the very least, displeased if they saw on the bottom of the container 'produced in New Jersey'. But if the 'symbol' only matters......then I guess that makes it okay? Hmmmmm?

that's different. you buy the maple syrup for the reason that it is made in vermont.

you buy the flag to show support for your country - sure it's not made in your country so you aren't supporting it that way, but you show support just by sticking it everyfvckingwhere - goal achieved. just because you are support other countries economies doesn't mean you can't support your country at the same time. it's just intangible support :p
Well, I disagree with you there. I have nothing whatsoever against China, but I just couldn't buy an American Flag made there.
I buy many products that are made in China (Electronics, Clothes, etc.) but I would feel odd buying an American Flag from anyplace but the USA.
 

dighn

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well if you have a choice, i think you should go with american made ones but if you don't have a choice ie they are all foreign made, shouldn't give it too much thought? just my opinion. but the people who sell the flags are probably just there to cash in on it so they probably don't give a crap and buy the cheapest they can findl.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: VTrider
Originally posted by: zippy
Isn't cashing in on cheap foreign labor patriotic?

;) :p

It's what being American today is all about my friend.

there is a similar debate going on here in michigan. The government basically undercut a major furniture maker that employs thousands of people here to give a large bid to the company that runs the furniture factory that the prisoners work in.

So, what everyone around here is saying is that the prisoners should be doing the crap jobs that no one wants, and to let the tax paying members of society do the real work. The problem is the prisoners only get paid 23 cents an hour for the work, so no real company could produce the things as cheap as the prisoners can.

Yeah, I know its way off topic...but what can ya do?
 

VTrider

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Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: VTrider
Originally posted by: zippy
Isn't cashing in on cheap foreign labor patriotic?

;) :p

It's what being American today is all about my friend.

there is a similar debate going on here in michigan. The government basically undercut a major furniture maker that employs thousands of people here to give a large bid to the company that runs the furniture factory that the prisoners work in.

So, what everyone around here is saying is that the prisoners should be doing the crap jobs that no one wants, and to let the tax paying members of society do the real work. The problem is the prisoners only get paid 23 cents an hour for the work, so no real company could produce the things as cheap as the prisoners can.

Yeah, I know its way off topic...but what can ya do?

You ever see that movie, "shawshank redemption"? Same exact thing happened in that movie, makes you wonder, eh?