Originally posted by: conjur
Dow Jones Industrial Average
Bush's inauguration: 10,587.60
Bush's 2nd inauguration: 10,586.03 (well...as of right now)
well considering they are both near all time highs, pretty good.Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: conjur
Dow Jones Industrial Average
Bush's inauguration: 10,587.60
Bush's 2nd inauguration: 10,586.03 (well...as of right now)
But but but the Economy is booming better than it's been in 20 years
except everyone with a 401k, or a pension plan, mutual funds, annuity, or well, damn near everybody.Originally posted by: conjur
I would, too. Problem with this rise, though, is the gains are all in the hands of corporations and its big investors. Workers aren't seeing their share of this "recovery".
You sure seem to think in optimistic terms. What % of the US working population do you think actually has those things? WalMart and McDonald's offering 401k plans to their part-timers, eh?Originally posted by: Train
except everyone with a 401k, or a pension plan, mutual funds, annuity, or well, damn near everybody.Originally posted by: conjur
I would, too. Problem with this rise, though, is the gains are all in the hands of corporations and its big investors. Workers aren't seeing their share of this "recovery".
Originally posted by: Train
except everyone with a 401k, or a pension plan, mutual funds, annuity, or well, damn near everybody.Originally posted by: conjur
I would, too. Problem with this rise, though, is the gains are all in the hands of corporations and its big investors. Workers aren't seeing their share of this "recovery".
EDIT: oh and anyone with a job too.
If you don't know the answer to that then you are a sad example of the decline of American society.Originally posted by: tnitsuj
my 401k and Roth are up over 20% last year. I bought a house at an insanely low interest rate and am working on buying a condo as an investment. Yeah the economy sucks.
Why is it our job to take care of the idiots who work at Wal Mart and McDonalds?
Originally posted by: Train
except everyone with a 401k, or a pension plan, mutual funds, annuity, or well, damn near everybody.Originally posted by: conjur
I would, too. Problem with this rise, though, is the gains are all in the hands of corporations and its big investors. Workers aren't seeing their share of this "recovery".
EDIT: oh and anyone with a job too.
But but but the Economy is booming better than it's been in 20 years
Originally posted by: irwincur
But but but the Economy is booming better than it's been in 20 years
You must be stupid, too stupid to realize that the market is a poor indicator of real world economic performance.
The reality, the economy is doing well and almost every major indicator is through the roof. Including today when the new jobs data was announced. Lowest level of new jobless claims since the late 90s. Sub perfect employment numbers (approx. 5.4% is perfect employment for the idiots out there) meaning everyone that wants a job is working, new business owners do not count. There is also the phenomenon of wage pressure as good employees shrink from the pools. Wages go up once employment his its perfect level.
So the bleak WalMart wage liberals are wrong yet again.
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: irwincur
But but but the Economy is booming better than it's been in 20 years
You must be stupid, too stupid to realize that the market is a poor indicator of real world economic performance.
The reality, the economy is doing well and almost every major indicator is through the roof. Including today when the new jobs data was announced. Lowest level of new jobless claims since the late 90s. Sub perfect employment numbers (approx. 5.4% is perfect employment for the idiots out there) meaning everyone that wants a job is working, new business owners do not count. There is also the phenomenon of wage pressure as good employees shrink from the pools. Wages go up once employment his its perfect level.
So the bleak WalMart wage liberals are wrong yet again.
Take a break from name-calling and point me to the indicator that shows how my wages have not grown while the price of everything I spend my money on has increased.
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: irwincur
But but but the Economy is booming better than it's been in 20 years
You must be stupid, too stupid to realize that the market is a poor indicator of real world economic performance.
The reality, the economy is doing well and almost every major indicator is through the roof. Including today when the new jobs data was announced. Lowest level of new jobless claims since the late 90s. Sub perfect employment numbers (approx. 5.4% is perfect employment for the idiots out there) meaning everyone that wants a job is working, new business owners do not count. There is also the phenomenon of wage pressure as good employees shrink from the pools. Wages go up once employment his its perfect level.
So the bleak WalMart wage liberals are wrong yet again.
Take a break from name-calling and point me to the indicator that shows how my wages have not grown while the price of everything I spend my money on has increased.
But, but, but Walmart workers got a 0.25% wage increase! That's PROGRESS!!!
Edit: Typo
I didn't realize you were the basis for the BLS numbers now.Originally posted by: daveshel
Take a break from name-calling and point me to the indicator that shows how my wages have not grown while the price of everything I spend my money on has increased.Originally posted by: irwincur
You must be stupid, too stupid to realize that the market is a poor indicator of real world economic performance.But but but the Economy is booming better than it's been in 20 years
The reality, the economy is doing well and almost every major indicator is through the roof. Including today when the new jobs data was announced. Lowest level of new jobless claims since the late 90s. Sub perfect employment numbers (approx. 5.4% is perfect employment for the idiots out there) meaning everyone that wants a job is working, new business owners do not count. There is also the phenomenon of wage pressure as good employees shrink from the pools. Wages go up once employment his its perfect level.
So the bleak WalMart wage liberals are wrong yet again.
ya, just like the dollar was going to collapse 6 months ago, and 6 months before that, and omg as soon Bush gets re-elected your all getting drafted.Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
Dow 10,538.34 -90.45 (-0.85%)
Nasdaq 2,073.59 -32.45 (-1.54%)
but dont worry, the next 4 years promises another:
80% increase in oil prices
50% increase in healthcare costs
33% increase in natl debt
15-30% increase in tuition
50% increase in defense spending
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: irwincur
But but but the Economy is booming better than it's been in 20 years
You must be stupid, too stupid to realize that the market is a poor indicator of real world economic performance.
The reality, the economy is doing well and almost every major indicator is through the roof. Including today when the new jobs data was announced. Lowest level of new jobless claims since the late 90s. Sub perfect employment numbers (approx. 5.4% is perfect employment for the idiots out there) meaning everyone that wants a job is working, new business owners do not count. There is also the phenomenon of wage pressure as good employees shrink from the pools. Wages go up once employment his its perfect level.
So the bleak WalMart wage liberals are wrong yet again.
Take a break from name-calling and point me to the indicator that shows how my wages have not grown while the price of everything I spend my money on has increased.
But, but, but Walmart workers got a 0.25% wage increase! That's PROGRESS!!!
Edit: Typo
Dow 10,470.06 -69.91 (-0.66%)
Nasdaq 2,047.56 -26.03 (-1.26%)
Originally posted by: Train
ya, just like the dollar was going to collapse 6 months ago, and 6 months before that, and omg as soon Bush gets re-elected your all getting drafted.Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
Dow 10,538.34 -90.45 (-0.85%)
Nasdaq 2,073.59 -32.45 (-1.54%)
but dont worry, the next 4 years promises another:
80% increase in oil prices
50% increase in healthcare costs
33% increase in natl debt
15-30% increase in tuition
50% increase in defense spending
Wouldnt you just love for the world to go to shit?