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Hey, I'm no huge fan of Success Lurch, but I did get some laughs from this interview concerning his musings on the The Big Orange Disaster, to wit:
^^^ More Trump lulz within.
I know you hate the phrase “self-help,” but as far as the personal enrichment biz goes, Donald Trump is a competitor of yours.
Well, I gave him his first big speech about 17, 18 years ago. He came thinking he was talking to 200 people and we had 10,000. In those days, he wouldn’t shake your hand because he was such a germaphobe, and his whole talk was: “Get a prenup.” He told all these different stories, and they all boiled down to: “Get a prenup.”
So this was right after his divorce from Marla Maples, and before he met Melania.
That’s exactly right. It was the most important thing for him, apparently, at the time.
You gave him that first crowd high.
I did. And now he’s addicted to it—for better or worse.
I read about that as well. Back to Trump, though. We were discussing false confidence, and you’ve sat down with Trump, so how would you characterize his level of narcissism? It does seem like its born out of deep insecurity.
It is. His entire life is “you win or you’re nobody.” You’re seen and known. Even if people don’t like you, though he’d prefer to be liked, people will know how you are and respect you. That mentality is a ‘40s/’50s subset that some people have that he was brought up with, and it is him. The level of obsession that he has about the media coverage he gets—if you go to his offices he’s got a room stacked with magazines of everything he’s ever done. I know it sounds absurd, but I feel for the guy in that at any moment, his entire identity can disappear if enough people are upset with him. I hope that he’ll eventually adjust to a CEO mentality and be in a position where he wants to succeed so badly that he’ll do something that’s worthwhile. We’ll see.
Donald Trump also seems to be the No. 1 example right now of money not being able to buy happiness. He doesn’t seem to be a very happy person.
Well, he isn’t. But look: most Americans are not fit, most Americans are not in a passionate long-term relationship, most Americans do not love their work. My obsession is finding the few who do, because if you can figure out that model, you can show people pathways to go from where they are to where they want to be.
^^^ More Trump lulz within.
