Otherguy: Half of me wants them to start giving permits to have children.
dxkj: slave-state is a bad thing
dxkj: i like freedom thanks
Otherguy: You can have freedom, but it just moves children from a right to a priveledge
dxkj: so birth control fails and people are forced to abort because they dont have a permit?
Otherguy: Cause if you're a dumbass you shouldn't have the right to fvck up another's life as much as a bad parent can.
dxkj: you are arguing the wrong case
Otherguy: No, all males are sterilized and you have to get a permit to get it undone.
dxkj: we need better checks and balances, not to punish everyone for the mistakes of a few
dxkj: commie!
dxkj: um how do you propose that males are sterilized?
dxkj: in a way that it is 100% reversable
dxkj: everytime
Otherguy: True, it's currently only reversible about 80% of the time, but if we could come up with a way...
dxkj: actually lower
dxkj: especially as you add time
dxkj: it drops below 70% after a long period of time
dxkj: and pregnancy rate after 15 years reversal is only 30%
Otherguy: I know it wouldn't work with our current system
dxkj: I think that we should all commit suicide if the government ever gets that much power
dxkj: because I cant even imagine how many other things would be in place
Otherguy: Good luck with that 🙂
dxkj: lol
Otherguy: Tell me how it goes
dxkj: with what?
Otherguy: Suicide 🙂
dxkj: I just need to make sure people like you dont get in power 🙂
dxkj: good intentions
dxkj: bad results
dxkj: i mean, at least its only a fine in china
Otherguy: But it IS the logical extension of evolutionary theory
dxkj: for the government to stop people from procreating?
Otherguy: No, to steer our evolution
dxkj: wait
Otherguy: Because if we don't, the world will be populated by catholics in a few hundred years.
dxkj: when did we jump to only allowing those with good genetic material to procreate
Otherguy: That's what I'm saying we should impliment
dxkj: if its evolution, we shouldnt have to
Otherguy: Oh, yes we should
Otherguy: If we want to survive past our predetermined end.
dxkj: which is when?
Otherguy: I don't know that
dxkj: I dont think we need to evolve past where we are now in a physical sense
dxkj: just in a mental sense
dxkj: and we can do that without selective breeding
dxkj: lets face it
Otherguy: No we can't!
dxkj: computers are the next phase of our evolution
Otherguy: The most brilliant people don't procreate, and the sh1theads have kids by the dozen!
dxkj: have we evolved in our known history?
Otherguy: Yes, because the brilliant actually had a better chance of procreating and surviving
dxkj: and the sh1theads go off to war and die, or die in a facotry accident, while the smart people rule the populace from opulent positions in society
Otherguy: Now that has changed and we've hit a plateau
dxkj: so we have more smart people now than we did 2k years ago
dxkj: that isnt evolution of humans
dxkj: thats the evolution of the entire race
Otherguy: Both I would say
dxkj: i would say we've more than hit a plateau
dxkj: we are on our way back down 🙂
Otherguy: I would agree
dxkj: making choices that help our evolution out would be playing at God
Otherguy: and?
dxkj: especially when it would have to be done by those with power
dxkj: and you'd have to take away the rights and equality of others
dxkj: doesn't sound very Christian to me
Otherguy: You say that like it's a bad thing to play at God.
Otherguy: Someone's got to do it
dxkj: umm, how about God?
Otherguy: He doesn't do that
dxkj: going for a deistic approach?
dxkj: he wound up the clock and is watching it now?
Otherguy: Nah....This is just half of me.
Otherguy: The half I don't listen to ;-)
dxkj: hehe
dxkj: I would say helping ourselves out isnt a bad thing
dxkj: but screwing other people over because we think it might help our evolution would be rather selfish ;-)
dxkj: even if they are dumbasses
dxkj: btw, I dont think there is a problem with having a large/somewhat stupid population
dxkj: how the hell could i afford to own a car, and eat good food everyday if they didnt exist
Otherguy: Do people have to do anything to be able to drive a car?
dxkj: ?
dxkj: Im just talking about the fact that if there were no stoopids, and only smart people, there would be no one to do the 6-8/hr sh1tty labor that makes our lives affordable
Otherguy: That's what mexicans are for silly
Otherguy: 🙂
Otherguy: j/k
dxkj: but you see my point?
Otherguy: That's what automated machinery is for
dxkj: I would say if evolution theory is correct, than this is a neccessary step
dxkj: the survival of the stupid
dxkj: yeah but we need them until we can get some good automated machinery
dxkj: even stupid people are still way better at a lot of things tan automated machinery
dxkj: and cheaper
Otherguy: Which is just a matter of it becoming financially profitable - the initial investment is alot and it's cheaper for now to just keep mexicans
dxkj: plus we dont have that le vel of technology
dxkj: we are on our way
dxkj: but we dont quite have it
Otherguy: I'd say we have it 🙂
dxkj: how would you replace my job at target?
dxkj: pull items from boxes, take them out to the floor. Find their location, stock the shelves, make sure everything is flush, etc
dxkj: that would require one hell of a robot
Otherguy: Not really, just a change in store structure
Otherguy: But anywho, it's not practical yet...or we would be doing it
dxkj: so lets say we totally phased out the working class
dxkj: eventually
dxkj: how would that affect the economy?
dxkj: all the poor stupid people end up like those in africa
dxkj: would they replace computer programmers eventually?
dxkj: then who is left
Otherguy: Good. Let's go ahead and mass-sterilize them
dxkj: lol
Otherguy: The US has done it in South America. I'm not kidding.
dxkj: to mosquitos
Otherguy: like 300k women sterilized
Otherguy: Some against their will.
dxkj: why?
Otherguy: I'll have to find the website again
dxkj: eventually we are going to use up all our resources and run out of room for people to live
dxkj: i guess that would require like 100's of billions though
Otherguy: Not really
dxkj: until we can figure out how to make anything out of anything affordably
Otherguy: tripple the population of the world and you'll have mass die-outs
dxkj: i dont think the people in africa would be dying any quicker
Otherguy: The world has checks to make sure that we don't over-run it
Otherguy: what do you think AIDS is? And that like 30% of Africa has it?
dxkj: yeah
dxkj: but you actually think that is a check that "who" put into place?
dxkj: the world randomly evolved a virus to check the population growth
Otherguy: I think that as you get a large population living in squallor (like in Africa or India), you can expect some organism to evolve enough and have enough victims to get itself right
dxkj: i think aids just became an epidemic because our name is buck, and we like to fvck
dxkj: so it was easy to pass around, especially with modern travel
dxkj: I should post this discussion on ATOT and see what everyone says
dxkj: *after changing the names*
Otherguy: Heh heh 🙂 that would be interesting
Otherguy: I would love to see what others thought
Cliff Notes:
Either you have time to read the !@# conversation or you don't so STFU
dxkj: slave-state is a bad thing
dxkj: i like freedom thanks
Otherguy: You can have freedom, but it just moves children from a right to a priveledge
dxkj: so birth control fails and people are forced to abort because they dont have a permit?
Otherguy: Cause if you're a dumbass you shouldn't have the right to fvck up another's life as much as a bad parent can.
dxkj: you are arguing the wrong case
Otherguy: No, all males are sterilized and you have to get a permit to get it undone.
dxkj: we need better checks and balances, not to punish everyone for the mistakes of a few
dxkj: commie!
dxkj: um how do you propose that males are sterilized?
dxkj: in a way that it is 100% reversable
dxkj: everytime
Otherguy: True, it's currently only reversible about 80% of the time, but if we could come up with a way...
dxkj: actually lower
dxkj: especially as you add time
dxkj: it drops below 70% after a long period of time
dxkj: and pregnancy rate after 15 years reversal is only 30%
Otherguy: I know it wouldn't work with our current system
dxkj: I think that we should all commit suicide if the government ever gets that much power
dxkj: because I cant even imagine how many other things would be in place
Otherguy: Good luck with that 🙂
dxkj: lol
Otherguy: Tell me how it goes
dxkj: with what?
Otherguy: Suicide 🙂
dxkj: I just need to make sure people like you dont get in power 🙂
dxkj: good intentions
dxkj: bad results
dxkj: i mean, at least its only a fine in china
Otherguy: But it IS the logical extension of evolutionary theory
dxkj: for the government to stop people from procreating?
Otherguy: No, to steer our evolution
dxkj: wait
Otherguy: Because if we don't, the world will be populated by catholics in a few hundred years.
dxkj: when did we jump to only allowing those with good genetic material to procreate
Otherguy: That's what I'm saying we should impliment
dxkj: if its evolution, we shouldnt have to
Otherguy: Oh, yes we should
Otherguy: If we want to survive past our predetermined end.
dxkj: which is when?
Otherguy: I don't know that
dxkj: I dont think we need to evolve past where we are now in a physical sense
dxkj: just in a mental sense
dxkj: and we can do that without selective breeding
dxkj: lets face it
Otherguy: No we can't!
dxkj: computers are the next phase of our evolution
Otherguy: The most brilliant people don't procreate, and the sh1theads have kids by the dozen!
dxkj: have we evolved in our known history?
Otherguy: Yes, because the brilliant actually had a better chance of procreating and surviving
dxkj: and the sh1theads go off to war and die, or die in a facotry accident, while the smart people rule the populace from opulent positions in society
Otherguy: Now that has changed and we've hit a plateau
dxkj: so we have more smart people now than we did 2k years ago
dxkj: that isnt evolution of humans
dxkj: thats the evolution of the entire race
Otherguy: Both I would say
dxkj: i would say we've more than hit a plateau
dxkj: we are on our way back down 🙂
Otherguy: I would agree
dxkj: making choices that help our evolution out would be playing at God
Otherguy: and?
dxkj: especially when it would have to be done by those with power
dxkj: and you'd have to take away the rights and equality of others
dxkj: doesn't sound very Christian to me
Otherguy: You say that like it's a bad thing to play at God.
Otherguy: Someone's got to do it
dxkj: umm, how about God?
Otherguy: He doesn't do that
dxkj: going for a deistic approach?
dxkj: he wound up the clock and is watching it now?
Otherguy: Nah....This is just half of me.
Otherguy: The half I don't listen to ;-)
dxkj: hehe
dxkj: I would say helping ourselves out isnt a bad thing
dxkj: but screwing other people over because we think it might help our evolution would be rather selfish ;-)
dxkj: even if they are dumbasses
dxkj: btw, I dont think there is a problem with having a large/somewhat stupid population
dxkj: how the hell could i afford to own a car, and eat good food everyday if they didnt exist
Otherguy: Do people have to do anything to be able to drive a car?
dxkj: ?
dxkj: Im just talking about the fact that if there were no stoopids, and only smart people, there would be no one to do the 6-8/hr sh1tty labor that makes our lives affordable
Otherguy: That's what mexicans are for silly
Otherguy: 🙂
Otherguy: j/k
dxkj: but you see my point?
Otherguy: That's what automated machinery is for
dxkj: I would say if evolution theory is correct, than this is a neccessary step
dxkj: the survival of the stupid
dxkj: yeah but we need them until we can get some good automated machinery
dxkj: even stupid people are still way better at a lot of things tan automated machinery
dxkj: and cheaper
Otherguy: Which is just a matter of it becoming financially profitable - the initial investment is alot and it's cheaper for now to just keep mexicans
dxkj: plus we dont have that le vel of technology
dxkj: we are on our way
dxkj: but we dont quite have it
Otherguy: I'd say we have it 🙂
dxkj: how would you replace my job at target?
dxkj: pull items from boxes, take them out to the floor. Find their location, stock the shelves, make sure everything is flush, etc
dxkj: that would require one hell of a robot
Otherguy: Not really, just a change in store structure
Otherguy: But anywho, it's not practical yet...or we would be doing it
dxkj: so lets say we totally phased out the working class
dxkj: eventually
dxkj: how would that affect the economy?
dxkj: all the poor stupid people end up like those in africa
dxkj: would they replace computer programmers eventually?
dxkj: then who is left
Otherguy: Good. Let's go ahead and mass-sterilize them
dxkj: lol
Otherguy: The US has done it in South America. I'm not kidding.
dxkj: to mosquitos
Otherguy: like 300k women sterilized
Otherguy: Some against their will.
dxkj: why?
Otherguy: I'll have to find the website again
dxkj: eventually we are going to use up all our resources and run out of room for people to live
dxkj: i guess that would require like 100's of billions though
Otherguy: Not really
dxkj: until we can figure out how to make anything out of anything affordably
Otherguy: tripple the population of the world and you'll have mass die-outs
dxkj: i dont think the people in africa would be dying any quicker
Otherguy: The world has checks to make sure that we don't over-run it
Otherguy: what do you think AIDS is? And that like 30% of Africa has it?
dxkj: yeah
dxkj: but you actually think that is a check that "who" put into place?
dxkj: the world randomly evolved a virus to check the population growth
Otherguy: I think that as you get a large population living in squallor (like in Africa or India), you can expect some organism to evolve enough and have enough victims to get itself right
dxkj: i think aids just became an epidemic because our name is buck, and we like to fvck
dxkj: so it was easy to pass around, especially with modern travel
dxkj: I should post this discussion on ATOT and see what everyone says
dxkj: *after changing the names*
Otherguy: Heh heh 🙂 that would be interesting
Otherguy: I would love to see what others thought
Cliff Notes:
Either you have time to read the !@# conversation or you don't so STFU
