Interesting Article by a Former Delta Force Operator

SVT Cobra

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I should add that this guy trains SWAT teams and the like now, so that is who the article is written for.
 

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School Shootings
?Wait and See? is Not An Option!
By Paul Howe
I?ve been involved in several discussions about the recent school shootings in Colorado
and Pennsylvania. While I applaud the swift response and containment of the suspect in
the Colorado shootings and believe it prevented the loss of life, there is still much room
for improvement in three areas:
* Tactical Leadership and Training
* Active Shooter Response Team, React Team, Emergency Assault Team
* Individual Responsibility
Most of us know that the first response is critical to saving lives. The motto ?protect and
serve? should not be a saying stenciled on the side of your patrol car for the public?s
viewing pleasure ? it should be a code we live by. I believe that we can do better in all
three areas by improving simple issues such as combat mindset, controlled
aggressiveness and training.
Sanctuary
Schools should be places of sanctuary, where students are safe to learn and free from
harm. Instead, they?ve become a killing ground where predators come to slay our
children with impunity. As Americans and parents, we should have zero tolerance of
violence in school areas. I am not talking about the occasional fist fight kids get into, but
rather the deadly premeditated actions of a few. Bringing a weapon to school with the
intent of causing harm should be a death sentence for those carrying or using it. This
death sentence should be carried out by teachers, parents on site, police and tactical
officers. Failure to act aggressively and immediately will only result in more deaths.
Even one more death is too much. There are no acceptable losses in this battle. Finally, I
do not know of any cases in school scenarios where violence or loss of life did not result
from allowing these individuals more time to act. From the single shooter, to multiple
shooters, to terrorists, time is on their side unless we take it back! We know the answers
to the test, but are we as a nation willing to address the problems? It will require work
from all areas to be successful.
Tactical Leadership and Training
I have witnessed leadership failures in military and law enforcement tactical scenarios for
several reasons, the most common being the selection and training process. Legislative
and mandated training in political correctness, cultural diversity, racial profiling and
dealing with the emotionally disturbed has taken precedence over saving our children.
We have failed to train patrol (our first responders) to a higher level. Higher level training
for first responders will save civilian as well as law enforcement lives. Many times we
focus on liability as an excuse not to train.
More recently in law enforcement, I?ve watched administrations emplace Swat tactical
leaders over tactical team leaders who have never been in that particular arena. While
others were earning their keep on the team or on the street, these folks circumvented the
system. Many were put into position because of promotions or who they knew, not what
they knew or because they earned it. No one took the time to counsel them and find out if
they possess the necessary skill sets. Most don?t know the capabilities or limitations of
their tactical unit. Swat leadership needs to take an active role in all aspects of their
team?s training.
I have recently watched one major department?s leadership call a hostage rescue situation
a ?barricaded person.? The situation dragged on for hours while snipers had plenty of
opportunity to take shots and end the problem. It was not until another agency intervened
and stopped the mobility of the situation that it was resolved. Only then did the hostage
have to knock the gun from the bad guy?s hand and escape. This result came about
because the tactical leadership took no action, nor were the team leaders allowed to by
their leadership. The administration?s answer to this problem was to shuffle the
Lieutenant in question to another area of the department. I would like to see leadership in
these situations become criminally and civilly liable for inaction. With certain jobs comes
much responsibility. It is time for administrations and leadership to be held accountable.
We must also require active shooter training in the academy, and it must be held more
than once a year. These are perishable skills and they must be practiced ? there is no
other option! An additional benefit: practicing these skills will make the individual
officer safer with their weapon systems during individual movement, team movement,
etc. People, there is no downside to increasing active shooter training!
Team Leadership
As an active shooter team leader, you have a duty to neutralize the threat. Not contain and
?wait and see.? You are normally in charge of a team of heavily armed officers generally
fighting a 4-1 or 4 -2 battle, the odds being in your favor. You must not hesitate; you
must close with and terminate the threat as rapidly as possible. I?ve been asked when it
becomes a hostage barricade situation vs when it is still considered an active shooter or
hostage rescue emergency assault situation. My answer to that is ?time.? If you arrive
within 10 minutes of the shooting, you should close with and neutralize the threat. If you
arrive later than 10 minutes, you should probably get a foothold and start to methodically
clear.
The problem of wounded on the scene complicates the scenario. I believe that if there are
wounded innocents bleeding out in uncleared areas, we have a duty and obligation to
recover them immediately. I prefer to push through and past them to create safe zones
and then recover them. This means aggressive, dynamic clearing. Again, when they are
bleeding and dying, time is not on our side. We must have an efficient system to do this.
As a tactical officer, you may think that Command has a grand strategy for the crisis at
hand. You may think that during the operation the leadership has a handle on the screams
for help that you hear. In most cases, they don?t. Lots of the leadership I?ve been exposed
to are untrained, mentally overloaded and unwilling to commit to the fight. At the team
level, you have a duty and obligation to act should your leadership fail to and you know it
to be the case. You are on scene and have real time information. Act when the situation
requires action!
If you don?t know how to get in a locked door at a school, it?s time to learn - now!!
Schools don?t move ? they are there year round, just waiting for you to get in. Try the
knob, use a key or shotgun breach it if you have to, but get in and kill or subdue the threat
quickly and efficiently. Speaking of training, as a tactical officer, you could take two men
with heart and rusty 870 shotguns and teach them in five minutes how to enter a room, go
right and left and neutralize a threat. Why not start now?
Individual Responsibility
I?ll put this in plain English: If you as a police officer, a parent or a teacher are not
willing to put a child?s safety above your own, you are a coward and should cease to
breed. We, as a nation of Americans, do not need you or your kind. As for the primary
goal of hostage rescue, it is to get between the hostages and the hostage taker as rapidly
as possible. At least that is what I have been teaching and have been taught over the last
20 years. The mentality of ?protect yourself at all costs? has got to be left behind. The
mission is to protect and serve ? you cannot do this cowering at a breach point or behind
your car.
Active Shooter Teams should close with a subject they have contained and render them
incapable of causing further injury, especially if hostages are involved. The only way to
protect the hostages is to forcibly separate them from the bad guys. This ?wait and see?
or ?let Swat handle it? attitude is unacceptable and has already proven to cost the lives of
our children. I don?t know how you can posture outside a door, hearing screams, kids
calling for help, knowing children are inside being hurt or abused and not act. It is
beyond me. If a child is screaming, they are either being hurt or they are witnessing
someone being hurt. If the suspect is hurting the children, he is generally not prepared for
your attack. This is the time to strike!
Remember - we?ve disarmed our children, physically and mentally with our current
school doctrine. They have nothing except pens, pencils and staplers to protect
themselves. How long do you believe they can sustain a fight against an armed adult?
As a society, we will be measured on how well we cherish and defend our children. If we
choose to place our own well being over that of our kids, our society will fall and
civilization as we know it will cease to exist. If you are an individual officer, you can
make a difference with the equipment you carry. Thirty years ago, officers did not have
patrol rifles, ceramic plates, active shooter bags, etc. Most did not even have body armor.
Yet, they went in with revolvers or antiquated shotguns and solved the problem. As a
parent or teacher, you can make a difference. A sharp hoe or shovel in the case of the
Amish shootings could terminate a threat. If you choose to live without cell phones, that?s
your choice. If you choose not to act when the time comes, that?s also up to you. God will
not intervene, he is waiting for you.
Mindset
I borrowed this from Ron McCarthy and it is a simple and easy-to-follow matrix for those
who need a flow chart about when you can act.
Law ? Is the suspect violating the law and can you use deadly force to resolve the
situation? If the answer is yes ? keep going!
Policy ? Does your policy allow the use of deadly force in this situation? If the answer is
yes, keep going.
Ethics ? If negotiations are going well and the subject presents himself as a target with
the hostage and you can make a safe shot, should you shoot? Answer ? Yes. If he later
kills the hostage, you?ve put the suspect?s welfare over that of the hostage. The window
of opportunity only stays open so long. Then you need to force it open and this may cause
you time delays which generally favor the suspect. We must manage time and the health
and welfare of the innocent.
Two common denominators for deaths in active shooter incidents are the ?wait and see?
mentality and the containment protocol. I wrote my book Leadership and Training for
the Fight based on my experiences over the years. What drove me to write it was the lack
of combat mindset at both the individual and leadership levels. Leadership cannot be
underestimated or ignored, or more innocents will die unnecessarily. We have nurtured a
generation of ?Gucci gear? officers who think their outfits and equipment makes them
cool, and they forget their real mission. Thousands of dollars in equipment such as body
armor, high speed rifles, helmets and active shooter bags will not make it to the fight if
the officer carrying it does not have the will and the heart to go into harm?s way for a
higher cause.
Realistic tactical training and aggressive action is essential to ensure we?re successful and
not merely mediocre performers. Our children are looking to us to save them and set the
example. The next time they cry for help, we must respond with speed, surprise and
surgical violence of action.
Key Points
* If subjects are actively injuring hostages, it is a good time to strike.
* Provide more realistic training, equipment and mindset to patrol and first responders
and require swift and decisive action.
* If officers are not ready and willing to take a life to save a life, move them out.
* The above comment applies to all levels of tactical leaders.
* Administrators and leaders ? train your patrol officers to respond and place a heavy
emphasis on this in the academy and sustainment training.
About the Author
Paul R. Howe is a 20 year veteran and former Special Operations soldier and instructor.
Paul currently owns Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) where he consults with, trains
and evaluates law enforcement and government agencies in technical and tactical
techniques throughout the special operations spectrum. See
www.combatshootingandtactics.com for details.
 

ranmaniac

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"I?ll put this in plain English: If you as a police officer, a parent or a teacher are not
willing to put a child?s safety above your own, you are a coward and should cease to
breed. We, as a nation of Americans, do not need you or your kind."

:thumbsup:

We need more Americans like this guy.
 

Greyd

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IIRC the Russians army had this mentality when that whole hostage/gassing thing in the theater took place. They just stormed it despite the fact that there were hostages,etc. Good? Bad? I have no idea.
 

Praxis1452

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I completely agree. If we are to disarm our populace the protectors are only more important.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Greyd
IIRC the Russians army had this mentality when that whole hostage/gassing thing in the theater took place. They just stormed it despite the fact that there were hostages,etc. Good? Bad? I have no idea.

My mind is sketchy of that event, but IIRC the planning was horrible and training was horrible.
 

Sentinel

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Greyd
IIRC the Russians army had this mentality when that whole hostage/gassing thing in the theater took place. They just stormed it despite the fact that there were hostages,etc. Good? Bad? I have no idea.

My mind is sketchy of that event, but IIRC the planning was horrible and training was horrible.

I agree.

 

Kelemvor

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It's too bad that this country has turned into a bunch of pansies because everyone wants to give the bad guy his fair chance to turn into a good guy. That obviously doesn't work. The legal system in the US is just as messed up when guilty people get let go on technicalities or get because of asshole judges.

I totally agree that once someone kills someone else, they have forfeited their right to live. Once someone takes hostages, especially at a school, they have forfeited their right to live. People that do this are no good to society or the world in general and should simply be eliminated.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Kelemvor
It's too bad that this country has turned into a bunch of pansies because everyone wants to give the bad guy his fair chance to turn into a good guy. That obviously doesn't work. The legal system in the US is just as messed up when guilty people get let go on technicalities or get because of asshole judges.

I totally agree that once someone kills someone else, they have forfeited their right to live. Once someone takes hostages, especially at a school, they have forfeited their right to live. People that do this are no good to society or the world in general and should simply be eliminated.

:thumbsup:
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: Kelemvor
Once someone takes hostages, especially at a school, they have forfeited their right to live. People that do this are no good to society or the world in general and should simply be eliminated.

Yeah, seriously. And who cares if a few of the children get killed in the crossfire? It was for a good cause, right?
 

911paramedic

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Originally posted by: Greyd
IIRC the Russians army had this mentality when that whole hostage/gassing thing in the theater took place. They just stormed it despite the fact that there were hostages,etc. Good? Bad? I have no idea.
Apples and oranges.

The Russian scenario had terrorists with high explosives, and some were sitting amongst the hostages. Storming in without the gas would have been an even bigger disaster IMHO. I don't think there was any good way of getting out of that one.

The article cited is in relation to active shooters. To sum up the article, he says "If they are shooting, pull a Dirty Harry on them."

 

xanis

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It's hard to disagree with the author as he brings up a lot of interesting points. While just sitting around behind cover accomplishes nothing, just storming the place with no semblance of a plan can't bee good either.

 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Kelemvor
Once someone takes hostages, especially at a school, they have forfeited their right to live. People that do this are no good to society or the world in general and should simply be eliminated.

Yeah, seriously. And who cares if a few of the children get killed in the crossfire? It was for a good cause, right?

Originally posted by: Xanis
It's hard to disagree with the author as he brings up a lot of interesting points. While just sitting around behind cover accomplishes nothing, just storming the place with no semblance of a plan can't bee good either.




The point that the author was trying to get across is that this is were being highly trained in direct action and not reaction pays off. You have to remember that he was and still is highly trained as a Delta Force member so he and his team could storm a building without any planning and take everyone down without and injuries to the hostages, and maybe with even non-lethal force if possible. While that type of training is not possible for the local SWAT team, their training could be improved for these types of situations and training and experience now is mostly set up a perimeter, and then sit and wait. And, wait for someone higher up to do something. Unfortunately (as exemplefied by Black Hawk Down (if you read the book you know what I mean)) the commanders in the field sometimes get bogged down or also should not be in that position of leadership to make the call for action.


Also, even with a non SWAT LEO vs two kids with machine guns, my money would go on the LEO and he would potentially save lives by reacting more quickly.


The other problem is that most counties do not have a dedicated SWAT team and the members only train once or twice a month, and when out on regular duty they do not carry their gear so they have to first meet at their staging area first, instead of being able to meet at an advanced staging base.
 

jagec

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For the most part he's dead on, but:
As Americans and parents, we should have zero tolerance of
violence in school areas. I am not talking about the occasional fist fight kids get into, but
rather the deadly premeditated actions of a few. Bringing a weapon to school with the
intent of causing harm should be a death sentence for those carrying or using it.

Schools have repeatedly demonstrated an inability to tell the difference between "the occasional fist fight" and something far more serious. It takes some schools forever to respond to a serious threat, whereas other schools will go crazy and overreact if you so much as try to take a butter knife out of the cafeteria.
 

sygyzy

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I just read the whole thing. This guy doesn't say anything really revolutionary or even novel. Who doesn't know this (what he wrote)? Who doesn't agree with this (what he proposes)?
 

lyssword

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I think that's the right mentality. As soon as the terrorist/psycho has brought a gun with intent to injure someone, all bets are off. He chose his path, thus he must be eliminated without remorse.
 

pontifex

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while i don't necesarily agree with it, doesn't protect and serve also mean the criminal as well?

if you're going to do something like this, imo, all bets are off.
 

whistleclient

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Originally posted by: Kelemvor
It's too bad that this country has turned into a bunch of pansies because everyone wants to give the bad guy his fair chance to turn into a good guy. That obviously doesn't work. The legal system in the US is just as messed up when guilty people get let go on technicalities or get because of asshole judges.

I totally agree that once someone kills someone else, they have forfeited their right to live. Once someone takes hostages, especially at a school, they have forfeited their right to live. People that do this are no good to society or the world in general and should simply be eliminated.

You're taking a simplistic view of the matter. OBVIOUSLY no one is waiting for the bad guy to turn into a good guy. There's a case to be made that it's important to get proper intelligence, find out how many shooters there are, what kind of weapons they have, how much ammo, and to try to get a clean shot.

You're posting with the benefit of knowing all of those things.
What if it was not one but ten guys in there?
What if it was a nutjob armed with a bomb who panics and detonates?


Blindly charging in may make you feel manly, but it could get more people killed.