Keeping your own money isn't a handout.
(Unless, of course, you're a liberal who believes all money belongs to the govt and any you keep is a handout.)
Fern
It is when you're using things that were communally paid for.
Keeping your own money isn't a handout.
(Unless, of course, you're a liberal who believes all money belongs to the govt and any you keep is a handout.)
Fern
No, I'm a fiscally responsible adult who recognizes I wouldn't have "my" money were it not for all of the infrastructure and services -- largely funded by government -- that form the foundation of America's tremendous success. Without a properly-funded government, we'd be just another Guatemala where we all earned a couple of bucks a day. I guess you could also say I'm an optimistic sort who sees that a half-full Big Gulp is better than a 100% full shot glass.Keeping your own money isn't a handout.
(Unless, of course, you're a liberal who believes all money belongs to the govt and any you keep is a handout.)
Fern
Indeed. Such a simple concept, yet it seems totally beyond those consumed with greed. We have one of the highest standards of living in the world. But so much of the modern right cannot rejoice in what they have, but instead fixate on what they don't. It is that selfish "greed is good" philosophy that flourished during the Reagan administration. Strangely, almost none of them seem eager to move to those low-tax utopias like Guatemala or Somalia.It is when you're using things that were communally paid for.
I know, right. Like, "Where's my tax cut? I don't care about paying our bills." And then there are all those big corps looking for incentives, subsidies, and other handouts.
The right is just as guilty as the left of demanding free stuff. It may be different free stuff, but people on both sides are looking for handouts.
Keeping your own money isn't a handout.
(Unless, of course, you're a liberal who believes all money belongs to the govt and any you keep is a handout.)
Fern
Fair enough. That's a common talking point of the right, that Democrats bribe voters with handouts, failing to recognize that Republicans do the same with tax cuts. I'm glad you are more perceptive.I know, like, I wrote "too many voters". Never mentioned the "left" or "right" or "middle". :whiste:
It was YOU that mentioned that and you repeated again in another post above.
i agree with the boldedAnd if we required IQ tests for people to vote, we'd probably eliminate well over 50% of the population. Sure maybe it's a good thing, but that would never fly in any legal aspect.
Not necessarily. Smart people can't be manipulated. and if the smartest saw how much liberty they had, artificial hierarchy could cease to exist.Any time you start making tests for people to vote those tests are always twisted by those in power to make sure that only the 'right people' vote. Considering our country's horrible history with voter suppression let's just skip the whole voting test thing.
Well I don't about all that now given that I knew very well it would exclude me from voting.I also find it funny that everyone always assumes they would be one of those suitably qualified to vote.
You'd be surprised how smart some the southerners are. Surely the aristocratic souls in the northeast would have less vote than people like grandfather's family. Coolidge may have sent Smedley Butler to protect my grandmother.Yea, I'd really love to see these asked in the rural areas of Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, etc. I'm sure those red voters would nail the answers
i guess you've never heard of hillary clinton or haven't imagined how she could be the first democrat to win office without winning the popular vote (although richard nixon may have been robbed in 1960). Not that the pop vote makes any difference anymore, but if done earlier it could've stopped lincoln from getting elected. The Neo-Republican Party never could've existed for very long in the first place.If you asked to voters on the right, there would never be a republican in the office again either.
Fair enough. That's a common talking point of the right, that Democrats bribe voters with handouts, failing to recognize that Republicans do the same with tax cuts. I'm glad you are more perceptive.
This.30 volts to the wrongo buzzer!!!!!!!
No US citizen should be tested in order to vote....PERIOD!!!
America has become a country of spoiled children demanding instant gratification. We have the voters who refuse to look at the big picture but instead fixate on their own short-term interests. They can't even be bothered to learn about the people they're voting for and what their elected officials are doing. After all, American Idol is on.This is from another thread but it shows how voters do not want to do the difficult things (vote for the guys/gals that keep kicking the can down the road..) = http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36748709&postcount=20
It isn't the voters or the people; it is the System and the State manipulating voters.America has become a country of spoiled children demanding instant gratification. We have the voters who refuse to look at the big picture but instead fixate on their own short-term interests. They can't even be bothered to learn about the people they're voting for and what their elected officials are doing. After all, American Idol is on. Then we have politicians who fixate on demonizing their opposition at every turn and refuse to be real leaders who make the hard decisions required to govern effectively. (Well that, and lining their own pockets, of course.) Ultimately, we all lose, or perhaps more accurately, our children and grandchildren lose, because we are so selfish and ignorant.