Intel Xeon W3580 Preview

[aigomorla]

So i was graciously given 3 chips to bin 1.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...ersonal/IMG_1350-1.jpg

So far it matches my 975 clock per clock @ voltage per voltage.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...73/aigomorla/W3580.jpg


More to come later on. This is on my eVGA Classified.


Basically guys this is the Xeon side of the 1xQPI i7.

So the 920 Xeon counterpart would be the W3520, the 950 would be the W3540

This is the counterpart to my 975 the W3580. Unlocked and D0 glory.

Oh i also heard the W3570 is unlocked as well.

 

[PCTC2]

Stop showing off Aigo. You should spread the wealth to us less fortunate (please ignore my signature. I am less fortunate ).

But that's a really nice chip and OC there Aigo. Good job!

 

[imported_Shaq]

Great OC at a nice voltage, but shouldn't you do at least 20 passes for IBT? I'm kidding...I'm sure it's stable. It must be nice being able to run 2200 RAM at 7-8-7-21 timings and a decent vtt with that CPU. I'm trying to do it the harder but cheaper way.

Oh yeah...how do I apply for that binning position? lol

 

[geokilla]

Give me one!!!

So what temperatures are you getting on that Xeon?

 

[aigomorla]

well im on water so its about high 60's.

Some more updates:

Bios shots... as you can see all the multipliers are there, so these chips are just like the i7 counterparts:

QPI Multi:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_1353.jpg

Uni Clock Multi:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_1354.jpg

 

[PCTC2]

I'd really like an unlocked multiplier. @ 196 BCLK, 21x, I get my most stable configuration @ 1.408 in CPU-Z. Impressive Aigo. How much will one of these run you in the retail channel?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: PCTC2
I'd really like an unlocked multiplier. @ 196 BCLK, 21x, I get my most stable configuration @ 1.408 in CPU-Z. Impressive Aigo. How much will one of these run you in the retail channel?

1299 i think...

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

So far it matches my 975 clock per clock @ voltage per voltage.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...73/aigomorla/W3580.jpg

Very nice. Good to see Linpack pushing all physical cores. Scores are very good as well. (Use all available RAM!) For those who Linpack numbers matter to, this one CPU will run circles around TWO CPUs from the last generation - and that's huge.

Oh i also heard the W3570 is unlocked as well.

Edit: Nevermind the price part. But does W3580 let you change multipliers in BIOS? On a serverboard, that is. (two-socket boards)

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: lopri


Edit: Nevermind the price part. But does W3580 let you change multipliers in BIOS? On a serverboard, that is. (two-socket boards)

X5500's are 2 x QPI

W3500's are 1 X qpi

so it wont work in a 2 x qpi board.

However there is a W5580 that does have an unlocked multi and will work in a 2 x qpi board.

 

[lopri]

Well I was/am drunk..

So W53580 can be unlocked, in a single-socket server board? (Tyan, SuperMicro, etc.)

 

[PCTC2]

Originally posted by: lopri
Well I was/am drunk..

So W3580 can be unlocked, in a single-socket server board? (Tyan, SuperMicro, etc.)

Looks like you're still a bit buzzed. Looks like the WX580 are unlocked, and the W3580 work in single socket and the W5580 work in DP boards. Aigo's got his W3850 in his P6T-Deluxe. I wonder what it could do for QPI. My P6T Dlx and i7 920 top QPI around 199 BLCK.

(Finally, with Aigo's advice, got my i7 920 @ 4.1GHz daily usage)

 

[lopri]

I'm glad I didn't embarrass myself any further. Still having a headache..

 

[aigomorla]

W3580 and W3570 are both unlocked on a single cpu board

There is a W5580 that is unlocked on a DP board.

There is a X5570 that is LOCKED on a DP board.

yes the names are confusing..

 

[Sentry2]

Nice chips! I recently scored a decent one myself... $319 for a W3520. Got it from a guy on ebay. Great batch. I've booted into windows @ 4.7GHz but of course it was not stable. I think I might be able to get close to 4.6GHz stable but I'm waiting on a Koolance NB/SB block to show up. I have the bitspower right now...but it's pretty dissapointing that it doesn't cover the VR's by the NB chip. I've also got a HeatKiller 3.0 on the way. Have you had any experience with the HK 3.0 yet aigo? So far 4.55GHz has been perfectly stable for 20+ passes of LinX and a couple hours of 8 thread prime. Trying not to push it too hard until I get all the voltage regulators cooled properly... I can't believe what these new chips will do if you get a decent one... especially the QPI... :thumbsup: This XMS3 7-7-7 kit has been great too for the $$.

:beer:

 

[aigomorla]

HK is currently the best block you can own from my friends testing results.

These chips like sub ambient... So if i want to get some real OC out of them, im gonna need to wait for my chiller.

I love the i7 cpu... and its become an addiction.

I own 5 total now, 3 of which are EE class, and 2 being a full blown Gainestown class.

 

[lopri]

Here is a question.

Xeon W3500 -> UP CPU (one QPI link)
Xeon W5500 -> MP CPU (two QPI links)

Both are socket 1366. Now, say there are two server boards.

Board 1 -> single-socket
Board 2 -> dual-socket

Traditionally board 1 and board 2 used to have physically different sockets. (e.g. LGA775 vs. LGA771) And on a board with two sockets, you could install one MP CPU and the system would work. (True for both Intel and AMD)

You see now where I'm going: Can you mix & match? Obviously not considering efficiency/logic/cost..

I assume a single W5500 would work with a dual-socket board. How about a W3500? Can I use it on a dual-socket board?

And the flip side is of course - Does a W5500 (which is meant to be an MP CPU) work on a single-socket board?

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: lopri
Here is a question.

Xeon W3500 -> UP CPU (one QPI link)
Xeon W5500 -> MP CPU (two QPI links)

Both are socket 1366. Now, say there are two server boards.

Board 1 -> single-socket
Board 2 -> dual-socket

Traditionally board 1 and board 2 used to have physically different sockets. (e.g. LGA775 vs. LGA771) And on a board with two sockets, you could install one MP CPU and the system would work. (True for both Intel and AMD)

You see now where I'm going: Can you mix & match? Obviously not considering efficiency/logic/cost..

I assume a single W5500 would work with a dual-socket board. How about a W3500? Can I use it on a dual-socket board?

And the flip side is of course - Does a W5500 (which is meant to be an MP CPU) work on a single-socket board?

lopri it is possible to put dual-QPI Nehalem EP (5500 series) into some single-socket mobos, the X8SAX single-socket supermicro board supports both the 3500 and 5500 series Nehalem Xeons.

Additionally the C7X58 explicitly supports all LGA1366 based Nehalems.

LGA 1366 Socket
Intel® Core? i7-965 Extreme Edition
Intel® Core? i7 series
Intel® Xeon® 5500 series
Intel® Xeon® 3500 series

What I cannot confirm at this time is whether or not a dual-socket LGA1366 mobo is electrically capable (BIOS support is another thing) of functioning with a single 3500 series Nehalem xeon or i7 bloomfield.

(and no, single-socket Nehalem Xeon's are not identical to i7 Bloomfields, there are a few differences in the features that are validated and enabled by microcode for the Xeons versus the bloomfields)

edit: Supermicro support just confirmed for me that the 5500 Tylersburg chipset only supports the 5500 series Nehalem EP's, you can use just one 5500 series CPU in a dual-socket mobo but you cannot get away with populating just one socket with a 3500 series or i7 bloomfield CPU.

 

[ghost recon88]

Come on man, not even worth posting unless you have screens from under dice, LN2, or cascade

 

[lopri]

@Idontcare: Thank you for the information, very helpful. My thought was that the 1P platform and 2P platofmr would be completely incompatible in the future, but since the platforms are still in their early stage there could be some 'bugs' or other unintended 'bonus' for users at this time. I guess that's not the case.

Still, I'm a little surprised that 2P CPUs do work on 1P motherboards (at least on select Supermicro products) and I say that is not a bad thing. I wish desktop enthusiast boards would follow the suit so I could try on something like this or this for 100% OC fun.

 

[lopri]

And I was also thinking it might be possible that I could grab an i7 920 (again, first one returned) and install it in a board like this and play with virtual servers. Wishful thinking, that is.

 

[sgrinavi]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
So i was graciously given 3 chips to bin 1.

I hate you

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: ghost recon88
Come on man, not even worth posting unless you have screens from under dice, LN2, or cascade

LOL...

i dont own any pots anymore, let alone mounts for LGA1366.

Originally posted by: sgrinavi

Originally posted by: aigomorla
So i was graciously given 3 chips to bin 1.

I hate you

:[

*sad*