Intel Whiskey Lake Thread

[TheF34RChannel]

Below is a comment from Intel's CEO Brian Krzanich, who has stated that they now understand the problems which are causing issues on 10nm and have defined fixes for them.

We continue to make progress on our 10-nanometer process. We are shipping in low volume and yields are improving, but the rate of improvement is slower than we anticipated. As a result, volume production is moving from the second half of 2018 into 2019. We understand the yield issues and have defined improvements for them, but they will take time to implement and qualify. We have leadership products on the roadmap that continue to take advantage of 14-nanometer, with Whiskey Lake for clients and Cascade Lake for the data center coming later this year.

Full article: https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_ma...until_2019_-_whiskey_lake_is_coming_on_14nm/1

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Now we have known of its existence since at least December of last year, where it was said to be mobile only. Has this now changed and will we see desktop SKUs too? What does this mean for ICL?

Regardless, I am sorely disappointed by yet another 14nm part.

 

[Eug]

Is Whiskey Lake only U series with GT2?

Kaby Lake Refresh²

 

[Glo.]

If Whiskey Lake for desktop is Coffee Lake Refresh, it will be compatible with 300 series Motherboards.

It may not be that bad.

4C/8T CPU with Turbo Boost would be that way in Core i3 lineup.

For me if 119$ 35W TDP 9100T CPU will have Turbo, and 2.7/3.6 Clocks it will be very good deal.

 

[jpiniero]

Whiskey Lake appears to be nothing but a 14++ update of the existing Kaby Lake Refresh, mobile U only. S/H is just Coffee Lake but more threads.

 

[tamz_msc]

So 8-core Coffee Lake will require Z390, but nothing is known about Whiskey Lake compatibility. However, X399 has been confirmed to exist, which might get rid of Kaby Lake-X. So does that mean that SKL-SP/X->Cascade Lake would be a more significant change than Kaby(or Coffee) Lake-> Whiskey Lake?

 

[jpiniero]

So 8-core Coffee Lake will require Z390

Premature to say that at this point.

However, X399 has been confirmed to exist, which might get rid of Kaby Lake-X. So does that mean that SKL-SP/X->Cascade Lake would be a more significant change than Kaby(or Coffee) Lake-> Whiskey Lake?

Cascade Lake is a bigger change, yeah. Doesn't seem like much for enthusiasts however.

 

[tamz_msc]

Cascade Lake is a bigger change, yeah. Doesn't seem like much for enthusiasts however.

Do we have any details on the nature of those changes?

 

[jpiniero]

Do we have any details on the nature of those changes?

Hardware Spectre/Meltdown fixes, Optane DIMMs support, AVX-512 VNNI (for Deep Learning), maybe some more L3/core.

 

[ksec]

And people were saying Apple won't switch over to its own SoC.

is Whiskey Lake going to replace Canonlake? Will it get LPDDR4 support?
Iceland still coming in 2019?

 

[jpiniero]

is Whiskey Lake going to replace Canonlake? Will it get LPDDR4 support?
Iceland still coming in 2019?

Yes, Very Unlikely (but would be nice), and who knows.