To the best of my knowledge, I'm a long way from layoffs. Still, KDOG, it would be nice if you were a little less gloating. As far as I know, there aren't any AMD employees on this BBS and yet there are several Intel employees (Wingz, PentiumIV, and myself). We and our co-workers are directly affected by this news, and it's not good news for Intel, the computing industry, or the US economy no matter what way you want to slice it.