Intel Vs AMD for my money

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IamTHEsnake

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1) Amd Athlon64 3200+ s939 + Asus A8N-E premium

2) Intel Pentium 4 560J + Asus P5AD2-E Premium

for general use and moderate gaming?

with Radeon X800xt and all other fast components.
 
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Dru22

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No question about it, go with the AMD if your want to save money along with the gaming ability with the AMD. You say moderate gaming, thats a pretty nice setup for just moderate gaming.
 
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magomago

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Sounds like the AN78X-E IIRC you pay more but you get some "multimedia authoring programs" or something like that...but beyond that its the same as "deluxes"

And 560J? HAhaha which p4 processor is that? ;)
 
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DaveSimmons

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Click the CPU tab at the top of the page and read a few articles. A64 utterly crushes the P4 in gaming.
 
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Andres3605

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if maybe doesnt crush it but in a price-performance comparition it aniquilate it, 450 U$ for the 560j and just a little over 2000 for the 3200+ (90 nm) do you still thinking???
 
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KoolDrew

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Originally posted by: w00t
x800xt for moderate gaming. just doesnt seem worth it.
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Agreed. Get yourself a 9800 Pro for moderate gaming. And AMD is best for gaming and ussually hyave a better price - performance ratio
 
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DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Sc4freak
The A64 3200+ doesn't exactly "crush" The P4 560.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...c.aspx?i=2275&p=10
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So the $205 A64 3200+ doesn't always crush a $450 P4 3.6 GHz ? I'm shocked!

Actually it offers roughly the same performance for less than half the cost, so it does crush the P4.

For slightly more than the price of the bare P4, you could buy the A64, motherboard, and 1 GB of RAM.



 
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IamTHEsnake

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Thanks for the replies.

However, one reason I am tempted to go with Intel is that the Nforce4 boards may not come out before christmas which is when I am going to get this computer. I don't see AGP as an option at this point as it is going to die off soon and so PCI-e is a necessity for me. I would also plan to OC, so comparitively how would a P4 at 4.2 or 4.3 Ghz be to an Athlon 64?

Mind you if Nforce4 comes out before christmas I will go with AMD, no question about that.
 
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DaveSimmons

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The current Radeons don't do SLI, so you'd have to go with nvidia.

Read the benchmark articles under the CPU tab to see what a P4 3.8 is like compared to A64.
 
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That's why I went intel, I wanted PCI-E and AMD doesn't have the option yet.
 
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IamTHEsnake

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Dave I don't plan on buying the Sli version. The A8N-E is the Nforce4 Ultra chipset. Everything the Sli has just 1 Pci-e not 2.
 
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jvarszegi

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Originally posted by: malak
That's why I went intel, I wanted PCI-E and AMD doesn't have the option yet.
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For another few weeks. You bought from Alienware, and spent lots of extra money, because you couldn't wait a couple of weeks and build it yourself???
 
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Demo24

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Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Thanks for the replies.

However, one reason I am tempted to go with Intel is that the Nforce4 boards may not come out before christmas which is when I am going to get this computer. I don't see AGP as an option at this point as it is going to die off soon and so PCI-e is a necessity for me. I would also plan to OC, so comparitively how would a P4 at 4.2 or 4.3 Ghz be to an Athlon 64?

Mind you if Nforce4 comes out before christmas I will go with AMD, no question about that.
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your gonna have to pay for some good cooling to get up there ;)

you do know most of the high end P4s on air hit their thermal limit and throttle back. so when your gaming your not always getting your full 3.6 or whatever
 
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IamTHEsnake

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Have you read up on the E-0 Stepping processors yet?

The thermal ratio is equivalent to that of a northwood.

And yes I would get a very good air cooling solution, such as the Zalman 7700a.
 
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jvarszegi

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Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Have you read up on the E-0 Stepping processors yet?

The thermal ratio is equivalent to that of a northwood.

And yes I would get a very good air cooling solution, such as the Zalman 7700a.
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It seems like the E0 stepping process is just a better throttling mechanism. It doesn't seem (from the Tom's Hardware article) to do much to lower the heat generation under load, or to enable a higher overclock, unless I'm a complete dumbass (and it wouldn't be the first time).

EDIT: I'm further into the article. Wow, almost 105w for that processor... Looks like the AMD 3500+ processor is almost as capable as the Intel 570, un-OCed. Wonder what the price differential will be. ;)
 
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Mik3y

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the athlon 64 is better in general overall. the onlything hte P4 is really better in is multi-tasking now. it's lost it's leadership in encoding/decoding when amd switched over to socket 939. now they are basically on par with each other in that.
 
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Pollock

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Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Thanks for the replies.

However, one reason I am tempted to go with Intel is that the Nforce4 boards may not come out before christmas which is when I am going to get this computer. I don't see AGP as an option at this point as it is going to die off soon and so PCI-e is a necessity for me. I would also plan to OC, so comparitively how would a P4 at 4.2 or 4.3 Ghz be to an Athlon 64?

Mind you if Nforce4 comes out before christmas I will go with AMD, no question about that.
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AGP isn't just going to disappear...It'll probably last just as long as S939, anyway.
 
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gururu

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Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Have you read up on the E-0 Stepping processors yet?

The thermal ratio is equivalent to that of a northwood.

And yes I would get a very good air cooling solution, such as the Zalman 7700a.
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So many posts from people who haven't taken a serious note on the 570J reviews. An objective observer would realize that the 570J is easily on par overall (wins/losses)with an equivalently priced 3800+. If 3200+ vs. 570J is your only option, I'd go with the 3200+ beause it is WAY cheaper and speedy to boot. Plus 400+ is way too much to spend for any processor. I realize that Intel mobo is cake, FAR superior to any board on the planet probably. If that means anything, then by all means enjoy it with a fine 570J.

edit: sorry, I see you are looking at the 560J.
 
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