Intel to reunite notebook, desktop chip architectures, NEW chips to be based on the Pentium-M

[Adul]

Looks like another page from the playbook

http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5181256.html?tag=nefd_lede

The Santa Clara, Calif.-based chip giant will adopt a common processor core, code-named Merom, for its notebook and desktop lines of chips in 2007, according to sources, a shift calculated to bring greater energy efficiency to desktops and one that underscores that Intel is taking noticeable steps to move away from getting more performance through megahertz.

Merom will derive from the Pentium M line of notebook chips, which run at slower speeds than the Pentium 4 line of desktop chips but consume far less power. The Pentium M and Pentium 4 are built around similar--but distinctly different--cores, and each has features the other

 

[UlricT]

aren't they bringing out mATX mobos for the Pentium M?

 

[ViRGE]

While I read about this earlier in the day, it still surprises me every time I read it. While Intel was due for a new arcitecture in 2007, I expected it to be done in Oregon/Cali just like every other one before it has(P-M excluded). Instead, this is a dramatic shift both in location and design: it will be done in a foreign nation, and the design will effectively be a re-hashed P3(this is gross simplification, I know, but it's still a re-hash, just like the A64 was). Intel had to have another design on the drawing board, so for them to give it up at this point is quite amazing to say the least.

 

[UlricT]

Wouldn't Intel rather rebuild a chip from the bottom up using the design philosophies of the Pentium M? 2007 seems to be about the time Tejas should be completely revamped with a 64-bit core. Are they just gonna tack on 64-bit to these new processors as well?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: UlricT
aren't they bringing out mATX mobos for the Pentium M?

There's already a few out there, and Commell makes an ITX variant. Cost is ~$300 though, sans CPU.

- M4H

 

[Adul]

up

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Having already seen the lady on HSN explain to the GP how a P-M@1.4ghz actually preforms like it's a 2.8ghz CPU *did not say which one* I'd conclude that AMD will see Intel following it's lead on more than just 64bit.

 

[andreasl]

I'm not sure I buy that Merom is the same core as Banias, even with tweaks. It has also been suggested that Merom is a completely new core optimised for low power, but different from Nehalem which was the previous next gen core for Intel.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
While I read about this earlier in the day, it still surprises me every time I read it. While Intel was due for a new arcitecture in 2007, I expected it to be done in Oregon/Cali just like every other one before it has(P-M excluded). Instead, this is a dramatic shift both in location and design: it will be done in a foreign nation, and the design will effectively be a re-hashed P3(this is gross simplification, I know, but it's still a re-hash, just like the A64 was). Intel had to have another design on the drawing board, so for them to give it up at this point is quite amazing to say the least.

Since Merom is derived from Banias (P-M), which was developed in Israel, why are you suprised that it'll be developed in Israel as well?

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: ViRGE
While I read about this earlier in the day, it still surprises me every time I read it. While Intel was due for a new arcitecture in 2007, I expected it to be done in Oregon/Cali just like every other one before it has(P-M excluded). Instead, this is a dramatic shift both in location and design: it will be done in a foreign nation, and the design will effectively be a re-hashed P3(this is gross simplification, I know, but it's still a re-hash, just like the A64 was). Intel had to have another design on the drawing board, so for them to give it up at this point is quite amazing to say the least.

Since Merom is derived from Banias (P-M), which was developed in Israel, why are you suprised that it'll be developed in Israel as well?

Because Intel has never designed a full top-to-bottom processor(i.e. the P4EE down to the mobile P4, vs the P-M) outside of the west coast before; this is a big change for them. The designers in Hillsburo can't be very happy at this point.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: ViRGE
While I read about this earlier in the day, it still surprises me every time I read it. While Intel was due for a new arcitecture in 2007, I expected it to be done in Oregon/Cali just like every other one before it has(P-M excluded). Instead, this is a dramatic shift both in location and design: it will be done in a foreign nation, and the design will effectively be a re-hashed P3(this is gross simplification, I know, but it's still a re-hash, just like the A64 was). Intel had to have another design on the drawing board, so for them to give it up at this point is quite amazing to say the least.

Since Merom is derived from Banias (P-M), which was developed in Israel, why are you suprised that it'll be developed in Israel as well?

Because Intel has never designed a full top-to-bottom processor(i.e. the P4EE down to the mobile P4, vs the P-M) outside of the west coast before; this is a big change for them. The designers in Hillsburo can't be very happy at this point.

I don't understand what you are saying... Banias was developed entirely in Israel. Merom is an evolution of Banias, and will be developed in Israel, as well.

Trust me, the designers in Hillsboro (and every other site) have their hands full with other obligations.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: ViRGE
While I read about this earlier in the day, it still surprises me every time I read it. While Intel was due for a new arcitecture in 2007, I expected it to be done in Oregon/Cali just like every other one before it has(P-M excluded). Instead, this is a dramatic shift both in location and design: it will be done in a foreign nation, and the design will effectively be a re-hashed P3(this is gross simplification, I know, but it's still a re-hash, just like the A64 was). Intel had to have another design on the drawing board, so for them to give it up at this point is quite amazing to say the least.

Since Merom is derived from Banias (P-M), which was developed in Israel, why are you suprised that it'll be developed in Israel as well?

Because Intel has never designed a full top-to-bottom processor(i.e. the P4EE down to the mobile P4, vs the P-M) outside of the west coast before; this is a big change for them. The designers in Hillsburo can't be very happy at this point.

I don't understand what you are saying... Banias was developed entirely in Israel. Merom is an evolution of Banias, and will be developed in Israel, as well.

Trust me, the designers in Hillsboro (and every other site) have their hands full with other obligations.

Ok, let's try this:
486 - Developed on the west coast
Pentium - Developed on the west coast
P2 - Developered on the west coast
P4 - Developed on the west coast
P 2007 - Developed in Israel

I'm not counting the Banias for 2 reasons: first, it's an evolution of the P3, as opposed to a mostly new chip like the P4/NetBurst; and secondly because it was only designed for the mobile market, whereas everything else on that list is designed for the entire market. The 2007 chip will be the first top-to-bottom Intel CPU not designed on the west coast, and that's a big change.