"Intel to launch Ivy Bridge in March 2012"

[NoobyDoo]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110620PD221.html

Intel has recently decided to launch its next-generation Ivy Bridge CPU in March of 2012, back from its original schedule at the end of 2011 to allow a better transition between the new and old platform, according to sources from notebook players.
The sources pointed out that the delay of the Ivy Bridge platform will give vendors more time to sell their Sandy Bridge-based notebook models.
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[StinkyPinky]

Translation: AMD is so far behind that any release would just be cannibalizing our own product.

 

[podspi]

Wasn't Ivy Bridge supposed to be mainstream parts first? I would be surprised if any of the initial IB CPUs are faster than the 2600K...

Going to be very interesting seeing how they overclock, though. If there are any K parts.

 

[TemjinGold]

Err... you do realize the 2600k is also mainstream, right? I would be shocked if the IB parts WEREN'T faster.

 

[Axon]

Translation: AMD is so far behind that any release would just be cannibalizing our own product.

Agreed. Though it does not seem feasible that BD would be behind the performance of, say, the i7 920. I wish they would release it already.

 

[poohbear]

well that's great news for anyone planning on upgrading, no point in waiting around now since the forecast for Bulldozer isnt looking so good.

 

[cantholdanymore]

Translation: AMD is so far behind that any release would just be cannibalizing our own product.

No, It means that Intel is 3 month late

 

[AtenRa]

Err... you do realize the 2600k is also mainstream, right? I would be shocked if the IB parts WEREN'T faster.

2600/K is Premium Performance (HighEnd)
2500/k is Mainstream Performance

 

[Idontcare]

Intel figured out long ago that the worst thing to do to your Q4 holiday sales is try and launch a new product in the middle of it all and attempt to manage the global inventory mayhem that ensues.

They are the masters of product cycle transitions and their accounting metrics show it.

They let the seasonally high Q4 demand sap the inventory build from Q3. Then the markets enter their seasonal lull for Q1 which naturally reduces demand for all products, the soon-to-be legacy parts as well as the not so soon-to-be-legacy parts.

Then they use this lull in fab capacity demand to build inventory stockpiles of the soon-to-be launched nex-gen parts in Q1.

If you've worked in a fab and watched the natural annual cycle of fab loadings throughout the year the Q1 launching timeline is a natural fit for so many right reasons.

Whether the launch itself is Jan, Feb, or Mar is really immaterial in the big picture. Folks dither over such inane small stuff when they start getting worried about "delays till Mar" and so on. Provided it is Q1 then it is optimal.

Any later in the year and you've got ever larger channel inventory concerns to contend with because the seasonal demand cycling is not working in your customer's favor.

 

[bridito]

OK, totally confused. For months SB-E has been "known" to launch in Q4 '11 and IB in H1 '12. So why is this news?

 

[Genx87]

Intel figured out long ago that the worst thing to do to your Q4 holiday sales is try and launch a new product in the middle of it all and attempt to manage the global inventory mayhem that ensues.

They are the masters of product cycle transitions and their accounting metrics show it.

They let the seasonally high Q4 demand sap the inventory build from Q3. Then the markets enter their seasonal lull for Q1 which naturally reduces demand for all products, the soon-to-be legacy parts as well as the not so soon-to-be-legacy parts.

Then they use this lull in fab capacity demand to build inventory stockpiles of the soon-to-be launched nex-gen parts in Q1.

If you've worked in a fab and watched the natural annual cycle of fab loadings throughout the year the Q1 launching timeline is a natural fit for so many right reasons.

Whether the launch itself is Jan, Feb, or Mar is really immaterial in the big picture. Folks dither over such inane small stuff when they start getting worried about "delays till Mar" and so on. Provided it is Q1 then it is optimal.

Any later in the year and you've got ever larger channel inventory concerns to contend with because the seasonal demand cycling is not working in your customer's favor.

I agree. We think launching a part before the holiday push is great idea. From an inventory and product placement position a nightmare. You want the channel to be efficient and flowing with a stable product line. Not fragmented and inefficient. And if you can bleed off excess inventory before a launch of a new and improved product. That is perfect!

 

[AdamK47]

OK, totally confused. For months SB-E has been "known" to launch in Q4 '11 and IB in H1 '12. So why is this news?

This is Anantech. It's a place where people love to argue over semantics.

You get roughly 3 good posts out of every 100 here.

 

[Idontcare]

OK, totally confused. For months SB-E has been "known" to launch in Q4 '11 and IB in H1 '12. So why is this news?

Its not news...but xbitlabs be needing the pagehits and ad revenue so they got to keep churning and recycling the same stale news as new news. Business as usual.

 

[Ares1214]

Translation: AMD is so far behind that any release would just be cannibalizing our own product.

Not really, you think Intel doesnt know about BD? Im sure they would just love to release it around September or October, maybe November if they could. They obviously ran into a problem or delay not of their choosing.

 

[bridito]

AdamK47 and Idontcare, thanks for confirming that it's a non-news item.

Maybe this is a real news item:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/20...pu-more-details-on-mac-mini-and-time-capsule/

"Sandy Bridge and Thunderbolt are coming to the new Mac Pro, and at the same time, an unique CPU will be developed for Mac. This unique CPU is not seen in PC."

Now this has got me interested. It's been a lot of years since Apple had exclusive CPUs... any way of finding out more?

 

[bridito]

Not really, you think Intel doesnt know about BD? Im sure they would just love to release it around September or October, maybe November if they could. They obviously ran into a problem or delay not of their choosing.

I spent a few years working closely with corporate marketing (albeit not computers). I really wouldn't be too surprised if Intel knows that BD is going to underperform and their strategy is that want to wait for the letdown to publicly register before they come in with powerful CPUs that relegate BD to a bare midrange offering.

Just to keep the flamethrowers at bay, I'd like to reiterate what I've stated previously that I believe that a powerful BD would be the best thing for both companies. It would keep Intel on its toes and it would assure the continued presence in the high end of a much needed competitor.

 

[nyker96]

Translation: AMD is so far behind that any release would just be cannibalizing our own product.

agreed. process tech intel is like 1.5yrs ahead with Ivy. core architecture I'd say at least 1 yr ahead with Ivy even with BD released.

 

[Nemesis 1]

No, It means that Intel is 3 month late

No it means pages hits for people who put out rumors. Intel if they are delaying will announce it at Fall IDC,

I heard its going real bad for BD and it may not show until jan.2012

 

[bridito]

I heard its going real bad for BD and it may not show until jan.2012

That would be an unmitigated disaster for AMD. Where did you get that info?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Its a rumor I just started. NO source named.

 

[Nemesis 1]

If IB is launched later than intel said earlier its do to problems with the 22nm process node. The note book launch could easily be pushed back . But intel has to much on its plate to be launching later than they planed Desktop notebook Server Nights corner and atom . NO if intel launches later it had nothing to do with the sata II . Intel has a full plate.

 

[bridito]

Its a rumor I just started. NO source named.

OK, then I want to start a rumor that SB-E only runs at 500 MHz and that IB is delayed until 2014. I don't really see the point.

 

[Idontcare]

OK, then I want to start a rumor that SB-E only runs at 500 MHz and that IB is delayed until 2014. I don't really see the point.

You have to read between the lines.

 

[Kenmitch]

Now this has got me interested. It's been a lot of years since Apple had exclusive CPUs... any way of finding out more?

I thought the pros always had an exclusive part....As in no heatspreaders

 

[Nemesis 1]

OK, then I want to start a rumor that SB-E only runs at 500 MHz and that IB is delayed until 2014. I don't really see the point.

You mind going and editing that post in the other topic.Man your fast at spreading a rumor that has no merit or source. The internet where sane men dare not tread.